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If you had a choice, would you want SSL standard thick slipmats or the ultra thin "butter rug" scrat

Rane, Support
Shaun W 6:23 PM - 15 December, 2004
Which type of SSL slipmats would you prefer?
Revolutionary 6:26 PM - 15 December, 2004
I would definitely prefer the ultra thin "butter rug" scratch slipmats, Shaun.
nik39 6:33 PM - 15 December, 2004
Ultra thin. At least anything which slips good and normally the ultra thins slip better. If you can do standard thicks which slip the same, I would choose standard ones.
Revolutionary 6:35 PM - 15 December, 2004
Maybe you guys could throw some design-contest? The winner gets a couple of free ones...Just a suggestion...
BassChamber 6:38 PM - 15 December, 2004
super fast scratch ones! i love when my records spins like crazy... very good when beat juggling too, you know.
chee_nz 6:45 PM - 15 December, 2004
I prefer the slightly thicker ones
radish 7:03 PM - 15 December, 2004
As a beatmatcher, I like thick mats. Reason being, if the mat slips too easily, it can do so when you're just trying to tweak it, causes the mix to screw up compltely. Maybe a choice? I'd probably buy the SSL ones regardless, but I may not use them much if they're too slippy.
Detroitbootybass 7:08 PM - 15 December, 2004
I like 'em thick!

:)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:22 PM - 15 December, 2004
Cool cool....keep 'em coming :)
BassChamber 7:26 PM - 15 December, 2004
thats the problem: beat mixers prefer thick, and turntablists prefer thin...
Stuart Ramdeen 7:46 PM - 15 December, 2004
well, I'm a beat mixer but I prefer thin - ala slikmats. I find that it's much easier to release the record after slip cueing. It releases bang on time compared with thicker mats where the record usually require some 'pushing' to get it up to speed after release.

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booster 5000 8:06 PM - 15 December, 2004
"Butter Rugs" baby!
DJ Dynamight 8:14 PM - 15 December, 2004
I would love a set of SSL butter rug slipmats...I've been meaning to order a pair using the high resolution wallpaper jpeg that was posted a while back, but never got around to it.
Spider 8:54 PM - 15 December, 2004
Butter Rugs fo sho!
DJ Revenge! 8:58 PM - 15 December, 2004
Thin
radish 9:02 PM - 15 December, 2004
stuart - interesting...so maybe it's not me, it's my thick mats :) I rarely get the release spot on, always need a quick tweak.
chubbsta 11:02 PM - 15 December, 2004
Gimme some'o those Butter Rugs, Baby!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:10 PM - 15 December, 2004
So far we have:

9 = butter rug style
3 = standard thick style
T-One 11:13 PM - 15 December, 2004
ultra thin "butter rug" scratch slipmats!!
JD 11:50 PM - 15 December, 2004
I love BUTTER RUGS...

question tho- which side is the up-side? I have the black side as up and the 'rug' side on the platter...
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:57 PM - 15 December, 2004
I always see people using the black Teflon type material face down, but face up makes sense too...hmmm...interesting.
turntablist 12:17 AM - 16 December, 2004
butter rugs, but not "too fast"
feniks 12:41 AM - 16 December, 2004
yep...thin is better IMO.
TGK 2:58 AM - 16 December, 2004
Butter Rugs would be great. I love it.
BadCompany 4:54 AM - 16 December, 2004
butter
Bazildon 5:27 AM - 16 December, 2004
Yeah I'll go with the Butter vote too.

Despite ordering 2 sets of the bloody things over the last 12 months and I still aint got any...bloody lying online stores making promises they can't keep, grrrrr!
Alexander 5:36 AM - 16 December, 2004
butter vote here!
JD 10:36 AM - 16 December, 2004
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I always see people using the black Teflon type material face down, but face up makes sense too...hmmm...interesting.


ya- noone can figure it out... i just figured the rug side on bottom would make the record and slipmat move in unison...while if the rug was on top then the record would glide over the rug but the black part would stay in tact with platter... totally unscientific though so I dont know...
djpetey 11:40 AM - 16 December, 2004
butter rugs
DJ Silk 4:29 PM - 16 December, 2004
butter rug but...heavy enough that when you go remove a record the slipmat doesn't get unsetted from the platter. I HATE THAT!!! Although, if I used SSL exclusively then I guess it wouldn't be an issue.
nik39 4:35 PM - 16 December, 2004
DJ Silk, good point, I also hate that when the splimats comes off with the record. I think this happens to due to some static shit. If you know how to solve it, send me a PM or start it in a new thread please :) Thx.
radish 6:25 PM - 16 December, 2004
JD/Shaun

You want the slipmat and record to stay stuck together, and the platter and slipmat to slip apart. Otherwise, the motion between the mat and the record will scratch the flip side (unless you're playing single sided vinyl of course!). So make sure the shiniest side is down.
Rane, Support
Shaun W 7:28 PM - 16 December, 2004
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JD/Shaun

You want the slipmat and record to stay stuck together, and the platter and slipmat to slip apart. Otherwise, the motion between the mat and the record will scratch the flip side (unless you're playing single sided vinyl of course!). So make sure the shiniest side is down.
Makes perfect sense :)

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DJ Silk, good point, I also hate that when the splimats comes off with the record. I think this happens to due to some static shit. If you know how to solve it, send me a PM or start it in a new thread please :) Thx.
Spraying GruvGlide on your slipmats will protect you against static buildup.
JD 9:01 PM - 16 December, 2004
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JD/Shaun

You want the slipmat and record to stay stuck together, and the platter and slipmat to slip apart. Otherwise, the motion between the mat and the record will scratch the flip side (unless you're playing single sided vinyl of course!). So make sure the shiniest side is down.


hmmm...

But the shiny side seems to be the side that sticks to the vinyl... and the rug side stays apart so thats why I use the black side up... im confused...=(

Luckily my records havent gotten scratched yet though...
nik39 9:03 PM - 16 December, 2004
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Spraying GruvGlide on your slipmats will protect you against static buildup.

Thanks Shaun, unfortunately its very hard to get GruvGlide in Europe/Germany.
JD 9:09 PM - 16 December, 2004
ya- just compared and it seems the mats work better for me with black side up...
radish 1:04 AM - 17 December, 2004
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But the shiny side seems to be the side that sticks to the vinyl... and the rug side stays apart so thats why I use the black side up... im confused...=(

Oh :) I've never actually used the real deal so to speak, I was assuming the shiny side is the slippy one. Try it out, which ever way up makes the mat stick to the vinyl is the correct way :)
Zion-Prayz 2:17 AM - 17 December, 2004
butter rugs
DJ Silk 5:26 PM - 17 December, 2004
Thanks Shaun. I'll have to give it a try.
DJ Silk 5:30 PM - 17 December, 2004
You know...I think that since the butter rug logo is on the grey carpet side, that is the the side that should be facing up. You know how companies like to advertise.
JD 5:44 PM - 17 December, 2004
I got the info straight from the horses mouth... I contacted QBerts website and they wrote back stating that Black side on bottom!!
Rane, Support
Shaun W 10:50 PM - 22 December, 2004
Sounds like "butter rugs/margarine matts" are the prefered slipmats.

Thanks for the input everybody :)
Revolutionary 10:54 PM - 22 December, 2004
This might be a stupid question, but what now? Are you guys working on something?
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:02 PM - 22 December, 2004
Just testing the waters for now to find what people prefer.
Revolutionary 11:07 PM - 22 December, 2004
If you guys decide to do something, let us know ;)
Rane, Support
Shaun W 11:08 PM - 22 December, 2004
naaa.....well okay ;)
Revolutionary 11:11 PM - 22 December, 2004
You guys have already made some. You just wanna keep them to yourselves ;)

You guys aren't like that. That would indeed be bad for business.
Revolutionary 11:14 PM - 22 December, 2004
Время - деньги, guys...
DJ 3pm 10:23 PM - 27 September, 2006
*bump*

i'm thinking about (back)ordering some colored vinyl, but will need to replace the generic slipmats that came with my tables. any chance i can get some ssl mats for xmas?
brotha reese 10:37 PM - 27 September, 2006
butter rugs fa-sho!
Julls 10:41 PM - 27 September, 2006
I would like to have both! ***bump***
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 10:51 PM - 27 September, 2006
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I like 'em thick!

:)


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And when I'm throwin a gig
I just can't help myself
I'm actin like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And --, double up -- --
I aint talkin bout playboy
Cause silicone parts were made for toys
I wannem real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
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Beggin for a piece of that bub

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Julls 10:55 PM - 27 September, 2006
Mike, youse a fool. ;-)
Thundercat 10:59 PM - 27 September, 2006
Like Butta (version 2)
double B 11:01 PM - 27 September, 2006
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As a beatmatcher, I like thick mats. Reason being, if the mat slips too easily, it can do so when you're just trying to tweak it, causes the mix to screw up compltely. Maybe a choice? I'd probably buy the SSL ones regardless, but I may not use them much if they're too slippy.
sweetL 1:48 PM - 28 September, 2006
if im honest, id want both.

and lets be honest, youd sell both.
sweetL 1:51 PM - 28 September, 2006
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Quote:
I like 'em thick!

:)


I like'em round and big
And when I'm throwin a gig
I just can't help myself
I'm actin like an animal
Now here's my scandal

... hmm, baby got mat.
djmetaphysics 2:20 PM - 28 September, 2006
both, but if i absolutely had to choose, butta
concorde_pilot 2:43 PM - 28 September, 2006
hm i don´t have thin ones right now but i think i would prefer dem too
concorde_pilot 2:47 PM - 28 September, 2006
the ones i have right now are the not too thik ones shipping with numark tables... i am scratching a lot and correcting direktly at the platter when mixing so the slippy ones please
birdbrain 2:48 PM - 28 September, 2006
i use butter rugs but if i design my own i'd like something in between the standard thickness and the paper thin butter rugs. whatever it is i need it to be slick bottomed like butter rugs.
DeezNotes 3:41 PM - 28 September, 2006
I know this post is mad old, but my beef with slipmats is when the hole gets all big. This usually happens when you put a coffin lid on a turntable while the slipmat is on. When transporting the turntable, the foam holds the slipmat in place while the TT moves around and makes the hole all big and sloppy-like. I cut out a piece of a record sleeve to make a new hole and fix it to the bottom of my slipmats to keep their virginity.

I like the (thick) Technics-style slipmats that come with M3D and later model 1200s. I like the butter rugs too, but I feel they're too flimsy and they come off when changing records. They fly off if there's a gust of wind [outside] and with some records they are just TOO slippery. There's no "real" cushion and the slide noise they make is a little irritating when compared to the smooth slide the thicker slipmats make.

I notice some people put butter rugs under regular (thick) slipmats to get that slip between the platter and the mat (and not the record) like radish said.

Whatever you do... don't make them like those old blue Stanton Pro Disco slipmats. They were the thickest-non-slippin-est slipmats ever made... besides the rubber mat.
dj kiss 5:06 PM - 28 September, 2006
Butta for the mutha
IanJ 5:10 PM - 28 September, 2006
I cheated with my slipmats... I use the stock Technics slips with the cut up trash bag they send with them and then cause of the static I cut up one of those anti-static bags and put that in between the trash bag and the slipmat. Works fine and no static just remember to have your tables grounded
DJ 3pm 8:34 PM - 28 September, 2006
damn, a 2 year old thread brought back to life. no serato has to make some slipmats (since they can't make colored vinyl anymore).
scotty B 8:36 PM - 28 September, 2006
No more colored Vinyl?
grrillatactics 8:45 PM - 28 September, 2006
I would vote for butter-rug style, but would ask that you made the hole area a little sturdier than the butter-rug's, and also the edges (the spindle-hole on butter-rugs seems to be the first wear and tear, followed by fraying around the edges).

But I definitely prefer a thinner, slippier style of slipmat.
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 9:15 PM - 28 September, 2006
how bout Serato/Rane make control vinyl that has a slip mat built right into the back of the wax. best of both worlds... oh, and add embedded LEDs so the wax will glow in patterns and different colors !
KMXE 4:27 AM - 29 September, 2006
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how bout Serato/Rane make control vinyl that has a slip mat built right into the back of the wax. best of both worlds... oh, and add embedded LEDs so the wax will glow in patterns and different colors !


hahahahahahahaha

u could even use the leds as a 'marker' on the record - then program SSL so it can sync up the LEDs and the marker in the program!
Fabrikator 6:32 AM - 29 September, 2006
Butta baby!...

Or if they must be thick.. include a seperate "flying carpet" style plastic sheet that can go underneath.
DJ Evil One 7:09 AM - 29 September, 2006
i'm telling you guys...butter rugs under slipmats. best shit ever.
djeyvind 7:14 AM - 29 September, 2006
table cloths rule! notthin more buttah that that!
NOMOLOS JD 8:08 AM - 29 September, 2006
maybe you guys at rane could reduce the weight of the control vinyl? Am I the only one here that thinks the control vinyls are a lil too heavy?
Fabrikator 8:26 AM - 29 September, 2006
Yea I find they are a bit on the heavy side........... just like yo momma.


sorry couldnt help myself
GoodVibez 12:02 PM - 29 September, 2006
Both I scratch and mix so I use both
DJ_Mike_Coquilla 1:23 PM - 29 September, 2006
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Quote:
how bout Serato/Rane make control vinyl that has a slip mat built right into the back of the wax. best of both worlds... oh, and add embedded LEDs so the wax will glow in patterns and different colors !


hahahahahahahaha

u could even use the leds as a 'marker' on the record - then program SSL so it can sync up the LEDs and the marker in the program!
hey, you're on to somethin there KMXE ...kinda like that bell that dings when u walk into 7-eleven... mabey we can have like a smaller version of that hooked up to some kind of beat detector that when it hears that 'ding' sound, it'll acknowledge it at as tap (while u are scratching)
cheeba (the believer) 1:37 PM - 29 September, 2006
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I always see people using the black Teflon type material face down, but face up makes sense too...hmmm...interesting.


butter rugs are def black side down.

as for SSL mats... why not follow Tablecloths... kinda like butter rugs and flying carpets in one pack

www.hhv.de

Loook fwd to some SSL mats though :)
DJ 3pm 2:20 PM - 29 September, 2006
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No more colored Vinyl?

it was mentioned in another thread that the original supplier of the materials used to make the colored vinyl was having trouble supplying said material. i have no doubt that rane is looking for a different supplier, but not sure when and am not holding me breath in the meantime.
ral 2:48 PM - 29 September, 2006
resse's peanut butter-rugs!