Payola. End of thread.

no way its payola. People have to like music.

"live your life"

everybody thought that song sucked that was a dj.

everybody that wasn't a dj thought it was the shit.

Now I defend all of these songs and artists but i figured out what the deal is......not saying a song is good or bad BUT what i think happens is people dont go out and find music anymore and they dont have to buy albums they wait for the TV and radio to tell them what to listen too. So Record companys and radio stations ect ect pay to have their songs played (basically whatever the single is by a major artist) then people accept that as oh its on the radio its whats good because its familiar to them, for some reason people now adays only want whats familiar so when radio and TV shove it down their throats it becaomes familiar and acceptable. I can say ive been a victim of this myself, with Eminem 3 AM i HATED that song ...until i saw the video. Now im strangley drawn to that song. The only factor is how long they can keep it up. I was in the gym yesterday and they played Boom Boom Pow and like 3 people started singing along goiin....I HAAATE THISS SOOONNG DONT PPLAAAYYY THIISSS SONG and everyone there agreed which suprised me because its fairly new

Blisk... have you ever been involved in radio of any kind? You'd be amazed of how deep Payola is in the radio game. DJ's get "persuaded" all the time to play cuts they dislike in the for of "gifts" or paid trips to DJ conventions, etc.

It's worse for radio programmers, PD's and the like. Paid trips, gifts, etc.

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I think live your life is a great song. So, obviously NOT EVERY dj hated it. lol

I still hate that song but like i said people got familiar with it and then wanted to hear it alot because they new the words and the beat and whatever...thats not even close to the best record on that alnum but noone can tell yuo any other tracks

you forgot all the lil things, tshirts, free cds, dinner with artists, exclusive tracks...you are more likely to play something new from someone providing you all this stuff then someone who isn't...my 2 cents

And here's the perfect example. Pick a song you like that is current... that isn't your typical shit that radio would play. CALL THE RADIO STATION 30 TIMES A DAY and I guarantee you that if they're not getting anything for it, most likely they will not play it.

I'm not saying they have to listen to one listener. But, I've done radio.. a lot. I know from experience and I've seen it first hand. :P

Exactly.

You guys aren't thinking about my question here.

Blisk... some music is good. But, you're talking about airplay. Fastest way to get your record played is through all the things mentioned already.

agreed ;)

*grabs popcorn

I agree with you in that music IS subjective and jsut because you as a DJ dont like a song, or a group of djs dont like a song dosent in any way make the song bad. Im sure alot of djs look for different things in a song just like people in different areas of the country expect different things in a song....i dont know if its as bad now but a few years ago you couldnt bring a new york track to the south cause the beats were too simple and they were using all these complex words and shit to rap with.....at the exact same time you couldnt play a south song in NY cause the beat would be sick but we aint talkin bout shit. Its all your own personal taste...with the exception of levin federlines album its tough to call out ANY tracks that NOONE likes

That can't be the sole reason, something gets popular.

you hate soulja boy, but he started off as a youtube phenomenon.

Flipsta: my taste does suck. ; P <currently bumping swag surfin>

Another thing is look at something like beatport...the top 10 rarely ever changes, do you think its cause there the top 10 best tracks ...nope, its cause they got in the top 10 then people log in and immediatley want the "best" songs and download the tracks on that list. So even if listeners did effect radio play they would most likley call in and request the songs that are in heavy rotation because their familiar with them and they have been told they are the "best" songs...the top 10 if you will

Also are you making this reference on ALL djs or just DJs on this forum. If you havent noticed the DJs on this forum dont necessarily represent the opinions of the nations DJs as a whole....this forum has its own unique taste and culture mostly because about 90% are cali and NY djs

haha wow i just went to the amazon top 10 to get facts to make my point.....music is deeper in trouble than i thought, at least jada finally has another top 10 album

Man I gotta work on my trolling skills, that had no effect...

Swag Surfing, sounds awesome?

I was waiting for someone to mention that song...haha

My theory is that the majority of the population flat out doesn't understand or appreciate music at all.

So you have radio stations play meaningless songs all day that have a catchy chorus, people get the chorus stuck in their head, realize it's stuck in their head, and then they want to hear the song again.

Example, "Turn my swag on"...I wouldn't exactly call this song a lyrical masterpiece, however it's simple enough for an autistic child to remember and recite the chorus.

Some people like chocolate... some people like vanilla.

Why are they getting major radio play? I cant call it, but you have to look at the target audience for that particular radio station. If they play soulja boy and drake all day.. then you know. Those songs are good for the audience they are trying to reach. I personally prefer mix shows and when real Djs get on and do their thing.

In this day and age music is so accessible that you dont have to just listen to the radio to get into it. Also all the marketing in the world wont get people to like your music. I just think back the the source magazine and Benzino. All the videos, payola, threats, ads, etc didnt get people to like or buy his music.

“Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.”

- Henry Louis Mencken

QUOTE OF THE YEAR #2

If people dont "understand" your music your doing something wrong, you feel music you dont understand it....shouldnt songs be catchy??

lol, wrong, but so right..

M.Bezzle-Yeah after re-reading what I wrote I see what you're saying. I think what I meant more was something to the effect of people not really appreciating more intricate and formulated music, in comparison to most meaningless and simple pop songs. But yes, a song should be catchy =)

i agree with that

The label doesn't care about good or bad. The label cares about profit. Soulja wack doodle didn't get sign because his music was good. He got signed because his marketing on youtube worked... hence, the following of idiots, hence the profit.

Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled.

PS. The recipe for a song to be a hit is usually a catchy hook.

ya the labels know the recepite and they have it down to a science, they dont care about GOOD music for this exact reason, lets say i make what this board considers a GREAT hiphop song...well a great hiphop song alienates pop listeners, country, casual listeners, pop rap listeners ect ect...instead they watered down everything so they can make a "hiphop" song that will also sell to hiphop heads as well as your casual listeners, as well as pop fans as well as EDM fans.....if you make any music too good then you alienate listeners who arent familiar with what its about......the moneys in treatment not the cure

shit is real simple, people work all day, get stressed out, etc... most people listen to music to relax them or put them in a good mood, so a silly song that they can sing along too is like a release. when they go out they want to get drunk and party, when they drive home from a stressfull day they dont want to have to sit and analyze lyrics they just want to relax and forget about their day.

djs are music lovers for the most part, so we seek out all the good music we can, most people are just casual listeners!

record labels know all this as does radio

VERY well said +1

I was guest DJ on a popular Music Video show about a decade ago, there was a VERY STRICT LIST of what I could and could not play


ppl are sheep, force feed em and eventually they fall in line

joke copyrighted for future use on Jimmy Kimmel

see you in court.

You guys aren't thinking this through.

Soulja was a YouTube phenomenon not because of any major marketing but because were diggin his song. The kid made crank dat himself.

The money machine might bring most of them to the forefront, but they had to have some sort of following. Lilly Allen was the same way.

And if major marketing was the only problem then why not pay mad money to endorse an artist with major talent like Ryan leslie? Goapele?

Cassis gets bad publicity and her sales are terrible.

Because there isn't a correlation of money vs. talent...that's already been discussed.

The more mindless and catchy the song is, the more the average person will enjoy the track...especially if there is a stupid dance that goes with it (crank dat).

People didn't get into soldier boy because of his song it was youtube and his dance that caught him on...had he just made the track crank that he wouldn't have been shit..it was the dance aka his gimik

I think we need to drop the holier than thou attitudes

Who's got a holier than thou attitude? I don't know if that was directed at me but I've been known as the guy on the board who plays all this and likes it...its not a secret the crank dat dance is what made him popular

Everything commercially is corrupt

Fixed it

+1

And my tastes might suck, but at least I don't swallow.

I'm going to try a potentially bad analogy here, so bear with me.

It's fair to say most people here love music yep? It's our chosen art form, and it's a huge part of our lives, so we make the time to dig around and look for music we can really love, because, by chance, one day we discovered a really good song that's never been on radio... and from that point onwards, we dug for the best music we could find. Music became our art of choice.

But not everybody is the same. Some people have a deep passion for other art forms and music isn't really all that important. For example, I like photography, in the same way that somebody who knows the top 10 songs in the charts likes music. I enjoy looking at 'cool pictures,' but I have no real clue what it takes to make a good picture, or if a photograph I think was really good would be considered bad by somebody really into photography, purely because I'm not as into the art form as they are. I'm just enjoying it from afar, I'm ignorant to what else is out there, because it'snot a big part of my life. I couldn't describe a photograph beyond saying it's quite cool. Same goes with if they think Boom Boom Pow or something is a cool song. To them, it is, to me, it's average, but I take the time to look for better. That doesn't make me better than them or have better taste, we're just into different things and are more knowledgeable about the best stuff in our chosen art.

It's only such a big phenomeon with music because it's so easily digestible. You can sit in your office all day and constantly be absorbing music,compared to other arts, music takes minimum effort to get into. Just turn your radio on. And nowadays the stuff pumped out is as catchy and mass-appeal as possible, because if it wasn't, people would forget about it. Everybody wants to make money, and unfortunately talent isn't high on the priority list, so people might be led to believe Soulja Boy is the best rapper in the world. A music lover knows he's not, but your average teenager maynot have heard any better, and even if they did, if it wasn't super catchy, they'll probably have forgotten it.

But I can't say that their taste in music sucks, because my taste in photography, or art galleries, or home made knitted jumpers will probably suck. They're all artforms, I just happen to really be into one of them. So it doesn't bother me what music people like, if you think about it, everybody is a sheep in some way.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, problem we as a society have allowed people to have a false sense of empowerment and being.

Everyone knows a little bit about everything because of the easy access of bits of information (TV, internet, magazines) but no one just reads or reports fully, gone are those days.
So then we have a society of partially informed people who regurgitate partial (or incorrect even misinterpreted) information as fact.
Add some strong will or skewed beliefs and, voila.

Instant you suck syndrome.

hey sixxx man isnt that illegal man . i thought back in the days they did this but it monopolized the came . so people with no money or gifts couldnt get up. feel me . cant people get busted for that man ?

its illegal

doesn't mean it stopped though

the whole game is rigged

Okay, gotta chime in here with a few things. Sixxx is correct it is LEGAL PAYOLA.

First, if you have a Clear Channel or Radio One station in your market/town they are probably promoting something called "Summer Jam" right now. It is a PAID concert where established and "Up & Coming" acts are probably performing for "free".

Here's the one for Detroit: hot1027detroit.com

Tickets are $54. Now the station has all those artists playing WELL BELOW their normal rate (if not free) probably in exchange for spins (both in the past and in the future).

I used to work for a Major Independent label back in the 90's as Midwest Promotional rep and we did that all the time. Artists go on Promo tour for cheap/free to help promote the Album or get the current single poppin. If you did a club appearance or a concert for the station, you probably got spun at least every hour.

I'll elaborate more on some of the details of my old job later (Luke Records) - kinda tripped out shit that falls under the Legal Payola thing. Too tired tonight after the club

Ugh, I wish that song would just disappear. I CAN'T STAND THAT DAMN SONG.

=)

No really, I can't.

Art is correct... and Cowboy is correct. There is a lot of illegal and legal payola going on in radio. Radio and TV, if you want to believe it or not, makes a big difference as to how successful an artist is especially when first breaking in to the market.

+10000.. payola, and people are sheep.

Exactly people who have different tastes in music than you are definatley sheep and to not be sheep they need to agree with you on your musical tastes.....I wanna be an individual just like everyone else

i think the real question is what makes them become sheep...

dude... you have to be kidding me. It's a FACT that most people are sheep. Following Billboard trends = sheep. Don't sit there and try and argue the kid from white suburbia that thinks Lil Wayne's lyrics really speak to him is an individual.

To answer your question d.range, what makes them sheep are MBA's with marketing degrees that know how to target weak minded people who can't make up their own minds for anything. MTV and Clear Channel radio stations are long time purveyors of this craft.

See there's my point...I've been a fan of wayne since he was in the bgs with bg..when he was a hotboy (no homo no misquote)I have all of his squad tapes..his after squad beef tapes...his freestyle sessions ect ect so by your definition im a sheep because because now adays he's a billboard trend...even though I was a fan of his music before half the people on this board knew who he was...and do his lyrics speak to me? I would say yes since the streets and places he raps about are the same ones I grew up on...according to your logic the only way for me to not be a sheep in that situation is to stop liking a artist I've liked for over 15 years just because he became commercially viable

Your working on the assumption that people are listening to music on some deeper level and that the lyrics mean something...I don't know if uve been listening but as soon as the south took over all that went out the door. That's how we did it we dumbed down music took out all the points and struggle and made it fun and catchy

You say people are sheep for following billboard trends but the way I see it is the record companys/producers have figured out the formula and found the lowest common denominator in music...they figured out how to water it down so that it will appeal to the mass market..its not that people only listen to what their told too its just the record companys know how to make catchy lil stupid tunes your average listener will like because its simple and catchy....my evidence for this is that half of the music that the 'sheep' like is leaked and bootlegged onto the internet waaayy before it hits radio/tv..and most of the songs you say people are sheep for liking are downloaded and played by people waaaayyyy before they hit the masses....I pride myself on digging crates and finding music quick but its been a looooonngggg time since I've found a catchy release I know will be a radio smash and told someone about it and them tell me they found it on some torrent months ago and have it on5 of their burnt cds and this is before I've heard it on the radio or seen it on tv


Im not saying this is 100 % because there are people who will like a song just because everyone else does but I don't think that every single person who likes a top 40 track does so because their told too

i agree with this, here's why, I can go from one genre-specific radio station to the next, and they're all playing the same 5 songs, so how can they "blame it" on hot97("blazin hip hop & r&b"), 87.7, which is a dance format, z100 which is top40, and 103.5 which is dance/top40, which genre is it, it can't be all

I think the radio stations need to stick to their format and not play a song just because its in top40

also, just because an artist does a song with a hip hop artist, doesn't make them a hip hop artist, and that goes for all genres...

Its like digiwaxx, with "pop treats" or "rock treats", but then when you do the record review, its set up for a hip hop record, for example, whenever i grab a rock or pop track from digiwaxx, i always select "strictly for the steets", or "digital underground", or more street marketing" just to be a dick

If you liked him before hand, then no you're not a fanboy, but you have to admit the overwhelming majority of his fan base are in fact fanboys. You may be the exception to the rule here, but that doesn't change me from thinking his "music" is absolutely horrid, and that he's a no-talent auto-tune dependent ass clown. We'll have to agree to disagree regarding the merits of his "talent." We probably have nothing in common musically.



I agree 100%. Most of today's music is completely dumb.



They're leaked because they're by "artists" that have already had prior billboard hits. People absolutely positively lose bowel control when a new Kanye or Jay-Z song comes out whether the song is actually good or not (anyone remember "Blue Pill?" ugh.) I'm not trying to criticize you here, I'm just saying.. I think people by nature like to fit in and follow whatever is popular. The reason a lot of crap music becomes popular is because of payola, and marketing execs hip to the idea of youths conforming to a mold.



Not every single person. Just 98%

doesn't everthingyou said make bezzle a fanboy, and not a sheep, or does sheep= fanboy?

the way I was wording it there, yeah.. sheep = fanboy, sorry for any confusion. he said he was into that music before the auto-tune wizard blew up.

k, because bezzle = weezy fanboy =p

hahahaha

I'm not on Lil' Wayne's nuts like M.Bezzle (no homo - no misquote) but I did find it REALLY amazing that when Carter 3 was released Urban radio was playing like 5 singles from it at the same time in the first few weeks. I never heard of any Album pushed that hard.

They even had a sweeper that said: "here's another cut from the Carter 3 album"

It did what it was supposed to do - make Wayne a poster boy for Urban Music, now he's on everybody's track. It's ALMOST like you can't have a hit without a Lil Wayne verse.

Bad part is that probably about 2 or 3 cuts from that album will be classified as "Classics" in a few years.

Radio is pretty much owned by 1 company, which is clear channel they decide what gets played or not and they tell their radio stations to play it. They could care less about music, they just want ad revenues at the end of the day. The way they decide what gets played is by having focus groups. They get a group of people to listen to a short snippet of a song and participators vote on if they like it or not. They pretty much want to only play songs that will catch the listener's attention.

Why is lil wayne bad though? I think he is a very talented. He doesn't write any of his lyrics and he comes out with amazing metaphors that make u think and wonder. He truly is an artist because that is what art is suppose to do.

My thoughts on the matter is that being a DJ means you have a strong attachment to music (well, I hope so) and therefore have certain standards of what you class as good music. Casual music listeners like the people who go to clubs (not all of them, but the majority of club goers I would class casual listeners, unless its a specific night dealing in a certain genre of music) don't really care what is being played as long as its the stuff that everyone else knows and its the music they hear on the radio. Think back to when you were younger. When I was a kid..say between the ages of 7-12, I liked the generic chart pop music like most kids that age but as I got older I started listening to The Cure, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Led Zeppelin etc etc..once Hip-Hop came to me in the form of NWA's first album I was hooked. As I started to get older I got into a lot of different artist and genres but my underlying passion was Hip-Hop and through all the phases my friends went through (Rave, Jungle, Garage, Happy Hardcore..terrible!) I always stayed with Hip-Hop. I was always the person people came to for mix tapes (the old TDK C90 tapes..remember them?) so it was only natural that I progressed into DJ'ing. But I found that I could be a snob too. I never set out to be like that its just I really didn't connect with the club crowd who just wanted tracks that were only played on the radio and were not open to anything else, I felt like they were the type of people that I am glad don't own a copy of a Public Enemy LP cause it would then lose some of its shine. Of course its better when you play a set in a club that caters for your favorite music cause then you can really let loose (there used to be a club in my city that catered solely for the Hip-Hop/Funk & Breaks crowd but also the owner was cool enough and trusting enough to let the DJ's play what they liked..the club was special at first because you had real music lovers there who you felt on a vibe with and it brought out the best in you as a DJ because you felt challenged by the crowd. Once we started to attract your generic club crowd (shoes, collared shirts and slicked hair..hahaha) the place lost its soul, I was getting requests for Will Smith, Madonna, Mariah Carey & the like)..a few months later and the manager is getting dollar signs in his eyes and tells me he wants to take a new direction in the club (which used to be pretty much full on Fri, sat & Sunday but hey, greed told him the place needed to be packed to the rafters)..he wanted to start playing a lot more top 40 stuff which led to me totally disagreeing and leaving, along with another DJ who done the Wednesday & Sunday nights (cant remember his name but he was a wicked breaks & rare funk DJ who played nothing but 45's haha)...fast forward 6 months and he closed the club down which tells me he wasn't right in his decision. He has learned from his mistake and now owns 3 clubs in my area that play a lot more Hip-Hop/Rnb. He still keeps it on the commercial vibe but the DJ's he has are good DJ's who he lets have the final word on the set list and doesn't interfere so if I go to the club I am kept happy with a good selection of Hip-Hop and Soul and the sheep are kept happy with their radio trash. My overall point being..The reason the radio plays this generic, non-brain engaging music is because they are targeting the casual music listener..someone who ain't gonna put their earphones on at night and listen to the compelling lyrics in a song..they want to appeal to your basic average Joe (boy or girl.haha) who will then go to the club and request that song that they have heard on the radio 40-50 times a week in work safe in the knowledge that most of the other club goers will like it too meaning that the money that the record companies that are releasing the track are getting their moneys worth when they pay the radio DJ's, programmers etc to play their tripe (now I'm not saying its all tripe..good music is good music, regardless if its manufactured, watered down or whatever..but I despise most of it).

Phew..rant over..the reason I feel so strongly about this is because I have been asked to host my own radio show and am on the air in 4 weeks and have been told I get complete control over record selection...so if I want to play Gil-Scott Heron in between Company Flow and Muddy Waters I damn well better not be moaned at..cause as soon as that happens..adios!..I know they say that sometimes you gotta play the game..well not me..I will NEVER sell my soul for the sake of commercialism because if he fired me for not listening then I know I have stood up for what I believe is quality music..I believe that as a club DJ you have a responsibility (whether you like it or not) to cater to the needs and wants of the crowd in the club, even if they like BS music but as a radio host, whose show direction is about Hip-Hop & Funk then you have a responsibility to play what you think is good music and hopefully open people up to different types of music and if your ratings slump more & more then you have a reason to get fired, not cause you refuse to play the latest T-Pain aberration....phew!

C'mon People..someone must have feelings on this topic?

I see good points on both sides...

Personally, it annoys me when certain people, particularly kids and select 35, 40+ adults that just want to dance to the "new, hot, hip songs", because they tend to prefer the super radio cuts, and nothin else that they haven't heard....but truth is, ALL of us are "sheep" by definition.

I'm sure our parents feel hate most of the music we like, especially on the Rap and Pop side, and they feel that we ONLY like it because "everybody else likes it" and because radio/TV brainwashed us into liking it.

Gotta disagree there..while my father was into Irish music (which I also love..check Paddy Reilly singin Peggy Gordon!...pure poetry)..my mum was always listening to Al Green, Gil Scott Heron & great soul music and even though she don't like certain aspects of Hip-Hop music (misogynistic lyrics etc) she loves Slum Village..especially the track The Reunion..plus she thinks Common is a modern day poet..so to say our parents hate the music we like is a MASSIVE generalisation, especially when my parents know that I have as much passion for music as they do...maybe its just your parents my friend.

You're not the only person like that, but I'm DEFINITELY not the only one who's parents don't care for rap..especially to the point that they play it. My parents are 62 and 56...my friends who's parents are 45-50 tend to like it a whole lot more. A lot of the 60+ crowd hated most 80's music, whether Rap or New Jack Swing...it's no generalization to make, but that wasn't even the point that I was making...so don't trip.

No, its human nature to side with something that you know and are comfortable with. Since those artists have a great marketing team and get played over and over and over again. Majority of people also don't have time, money, interest or lack the ambition to understand music. In the end, they buy into the music that is available at their leisure.

+1

I guess my taste sucks :(

probably :)

Of course, americans love to be lazy. Take any easy way out. See all their inventions?
(I'm American btw haha)

The fully-fledged example of what OP is talking about is the earnest and cranky middle-aged hip-hop DJ who only likes "real" hip hop, and he (always "he", never "she") defines this as things like A Tribe Called Quest or releases on Def Jux.

I think it ultimately springs from a fear of success, a fear of criticism, a fear of really connecting with people, and a kind of closed-mindedness.

rs

why would you fear success?

I think he's talkin about that mentality where as soon as it's not " underground " it's wak

I often wonder how that applies to DJs, if you get a reputation for breaking good new music, you can either keep playing that same music, or you can continue to play new stuff, if you see what I mean. If you're breaking underground and hit the zeitgeist, what do you do? I don't think this attitude is automatically snobbish.

Play bad ass Hip-Hop like this and you will be fine haha (no disrepect to any other DJ 's from a different genre)...

Watchwww.youtube.com

BAD....ASS....HIP-HOP....

check the lyrics from 0:53 to 1:04...my feelings towards the corny ass shit I gotta listen to these days.

Anyone remember that one time where Funkmaster Flex was blasting Interscope (Correct me if I'm wrong) for not paying him? And he did this LIVE on the air!!! I know someone has to have the recording. POST IT!!!

FOUND IT!!!

PAYOLA AT IT'S BEST....

Funkmaster Flex going off about Interscope & Eminem live on Hot 97.
Watchwww.youtube.com

i think as musicians we look at the buildup of sounds and beats,breakdowns buildups and just overall sound of music any genre, normal people just hear a hook that repeats all the time through the whole song and bam multi million dollar artist overrnight millionaire, songs plays 3243245335 times aday on radio, we dont have bad taste we HAVE taste : ) just listen to one hour of hit radio any station, its all catchy sounds or voice synths, people eat that shit up

i think i hate most songs that are popular because by the time it starts to get popular i've heard it a thousand times already

+1

We all love the throwback shit because we don't hear it driving to a gig / spinning it at every gig / nonstop requests for it at a gig. when the general population gets drunk they want to hear and sing along to the shit they know and love, which happens to be whatever the hot garbage on the radio is.

Put it this way- has anyone ever worked at a restaurant or produce store or ice cream shop? People come in and love the food and everything, but when you eat it all day long, you get sick of it.

I know exactly what you're talking about

i'll throw this out there...

how long after a falls off does/should it take to be able to be one of those "oh shit" tracks again. I"m pretty sure even billie jean got played out on the radio back in the day. . . . .

so?

being around radio and having been DJing for the last 10 years, in my opinion i would say that it def has to do with getting paid but also at the same time the song has to be at the very least decent. no matter how much money you pay a radio station to play a record it still has to be catchy at the very least. my brother is a program director for 2 stations and he gets calls to play a shit load of shitty ass songs all the damn time. you know when you driving or whatever jamin to the radio then a song come on that you have heard about 40 times that day? well there is a reason for that its because to the public its a good song thats why songs get played out on radio so often there for having more listeners for the station . Also by the time the song is played out like boom boom pow and live your life there is another song to take its place. ill be honest i listen to alot of everything and one thing i can say and i think i speak for alot of DJ's when i say this, so often when you are listening to the radio and you first hear a song and you dont really like it then all of the sudden it starts to grow on you its because you now know it and you know the words. i know for me atleast it happens pretty often.

this is what i don't get... everyone i know, everyone complains that the radio stations play the same 5 songs all day long, how do they not know they are annoying the shit out of people

They get paid to play the songs they dont give a shit!!!! thats why "they" say there station is the best but no one else thinks so lol. If i win the loto i will buy my owne station and just play club ish all day with real dj's!

I saw this dud a few weeks back when he opened up for Black Moon !! gotta say he had some wicked free styles !! wish i copped the album

three words:

lowest common denominator