These are better links to get a feel for the mixer:

www.junodownload.com youtu.be

Big Wiz's opinion:

I havent tried the denon Dn-x1600 but it looks like a great mixer.

I would definately recommend that pioneer djm-800 my friend has it and i used it a little before and its good has some good effects.

If it was me i would go with the pio 800

check this video Dj Atrak is using the pioneer 800
Watchwww.youtube.com

Yeah I use the 800 every week and know my way around it frontwards and backwards. I feel like the Denon addresses some gripes I have with the 800 which is why i'm leaning this direction

Dub Cowboy says:

Reading the owners manual right now, it's written in E.S.L.

Strike 1

Ecler Evo 4 w/innofader

do you need 4 channels?, one of the biggest mistakes i made back in the day was buying a djm 600 over a djm 909,

what about the EmpathSL?


doh, I mean regular Empath.

That is one of the most awesome mixers ever.

[kicks rocks at the lack of SL version]

Love the Eclers, but that Evo4 costs more and doesn't quite fit my style as well as the Denon. Before buying a new mixer, I always do long practice sessions and write down everything I wish my current mixer (Empath) could do. Denon 1600 fit the bill, Ecler not so much (But I wish it did, I would love to have one)



Yes, not too often, but when I don't have that 4th channel handy I get bitter and kick rocks at my coffin



Yeah, I know, which is why I've held on to mine for so long and turn a blind eye to all the things I can't do but want to. Well it'll make an EXCELLENT backup...

Watchwww.youtube.com

here is a better one...
Watchwww.youtube.com

Sweet thanks I haven't seen these yet. Still no work on Denon customer service, coming from Rane products, I feel I'm in for a shock

*work = word

I have essentially the same mixer (minus the effects) and really like it. Never had an issue with it

I was thinking about the DNX1700, but decided to just sit on my xone92 + X1. The only real difference would be the dual effects processors, but I just don't use effects enough to trade in the smooth analogue a&h sound (not to mention the filters). Came pretty close, though :)

that dedicated midi section on the X1600 is smart!.

I really don't like the idea of using the mic knobs to control effects. everything should have a purpose.

it's pretty decent but your warranty goes from 3 years to 1.

Wunder, I like the 1600 myself, someone else asked the same question some time ago,
so I posted some opinions.. -> serato.com

Uhm actually 2 threads, here's the original thread -> serato.com

Nice, those threads didn't pop up when searching for "denon dn-x1600" thanks for pointing them out.

Seems pretty positive, I think my mind's made up. Just wish that 'pitch' effect actually changed pitch instead of making that wonky robot sound..

If the denon had a real pitch effect, a real warranty and the channel crossfade select swtches were below the faders instead of above (which would give more room to work the crossfader). This thing would be a 10. But right now it's a 9 an good enough to drop the $900+ on.

Thank you all for your responses!

The warranty is pretty much the industry standard. Rane is the only one doing the 3 year thing. You could always get an extended warranty from square trade. Agiprodj.com is offering a free 3 year extended warranty on purchases over $499 as well. You have options.

Good looking out on the agiprodj warranty, I just emailed them to see if they'd price match the Amazon price.

there was a 1600 at a bar I was playing at last year and I really liked it - felt solid, well built and well designed. X-fader felt nice and smooth too...

Thanks Soo, Vancity represent!

I had a denon 1500 for years and just got a 1600 awhile back. I have used denon products for most of my long 23 year dj career and for me there is no better for this reason. In those years i may have had to send one of there products to be fixed maybe once. you cant beat that. they are built like tanks and work eveytime. Mobile stuff gets banged around like no other and it keeps on going. The 1600 does so much for the money. the midi functions are amazing and sound is unreal. Juts my personal opion. I have a pair of old denon s5000 witch ive had for years and years and even with my new 3700's i still use the s5000 alot and never one issue and active platters are so much better i feel.

THAT'S the experience I was looking for! Thanks Freestyle.

So far my only disappointment is the 'Pitch' effect. Sounds more like the Robot and pretty useless. What do you think of it? Do you use it at all or leave it alone?

Got a 1700 at home, probably be having it for a few weeks, agree on the pitch. not to cleverly thought out, also not to impressed with the reverb. But there is a A LOT to like about this thing.

My 1600 just arrived today! Glad I had a day party, now I'm off to the lab to go work it out!

What's the verdict Wunder? I ordered one of these the other day. Got rid of the DJM 800 for this. Looking forward to receiving it.

Was waiting a bit before delivering a real review, but so far; WOW sums it up. Maybe I should start with the cons:

Pitch effect:
It's not as useless as I feared, but I can't see myself using it anytime soon. Using the dry/wet knob just causes it to emit this warbly/robotic/bitcrushed sound. Leave the knob on 'dry' and use the time buttons to change pitch, 33% at a time and the effect becomes marginally serviceable. I don't want 33, 66, 100% speed changes. I want 1-10% pitch changes so I can subtly change keys of songs for better harmonic mixing. Seems like a firmware change might fix that.

Upfader placement:
On the DJM 800, the A-Thru-B crossfader routing switches for each channel are BELOW the upfaders. This creates a nice bit of space around the crossfader for getting busy. On the Denon, the switches are above the upfaders, which means there isn't anything separating the upfaders from the crossfader, so they kinda crowd the crossfader and might get bumped up a bit if you have sloppy crossfader technique. (Like me lol)

That ends my gripes, now for what I love so far:

Let's start with upfaders:
Looong 60mm faders, butter smooth with the PERFECT amount of resistance. My session yesterday was often interrupted by my constant need to glide those faders up and down the rails. Sooo nice.

Crossfader ("Flex Fader"):
Buttery, Buttery, Buttery smooth. Buttery smooth. Reassuring 'Vestax' click. Dj'ing in a windy environments may cause this thing to slide from side to side. If you don't like that, there's a tension adjust! (Isn't that one of the main selling points of the Innofader?)

EQ's:
Large rubberized pots, maybe best feeling knobs I've used. USER ADJUSTABLE CROSSOVERS. In the Utility menu, I can actually set the frequency that is controlled by the Lo, Mid, and High knobs (Mic EQ also). I don't know about you but that brought a big smile to my face.

Sound:
Exquisite. Rich. Warm. Loud. Perfect. Make sure you have the latest Firmware (ver.2000) it adds +10db to the Master.

Soundcard:
8 in-8 out built in sound card. Haven't gotten into it yet.

Mics:
2 mic inputs, with adjustable EQ. Auto ducking that is also adjustable (Attenuation, response speed) and apparently attenuates only the vocal frequencies in music. I haven't mic'd up yet so we'll see.

F/X:
Yeah they're good, everything I wanted (aside from the pitch effect). I like that you can assign them to any and every combination of inputs (including mics!) I probably disagree with WarpNote's dislike of the reverb, it seems serviceable, I especially like that you can use the parameters knob to dictate what frequencies are effected by the verb. That parameters knob is pretty sweet actually, it can be used like the totally separate Sound Color fliter knob on the DJM800.

Midi Control:
Ho-lee sh**. Yeah they got it right with this one. Suffice to say it quenched my desire for an iPad + midi app. The whole board is mappable, including the FX section, but the beauty of it is that if you want to, you can either control midi+audio with the channel strips, ORRRR if you're like me you can set it up to switch between controlling audio OR midi with the push of a button. (It was always a huge drawback to me that with mixers like the 800 you couldn't map an eq knob or upfader to a midi function in the real world, because it would change the audio). When you enter midi mode and make changes, switching back to regular audio control doesn't effect the audio, the screen tells you which knobs/faders need to change to get you back to where you left the audio. Sweet. Oh and you also have a dedicated 4-page midi strip with 4 clickable endless encoders and 4 buttons. Double Sweet.

As I said I haven't had a whole lotta time with this thing, so I'll end the preliminary review there, but yeah Wunda, you should be happy. Be sure to share your thoughts here when it comes in!

Oh, I should also mention that I picked this up from Ty at agiprodj.com

He beat the best price I found on the internet with no tax and free shipping. He sent it out that day, mixer arrived 3 days later. Picked up the extended warranty as well ($60) and I'm definitely satisfied with them.

More on the fader, in relation to the Innofader; the cut in is not only controlled by a well placed knob, but the actual MAXimum cut distance is adjustable in the menu, digitally to 1/10th of a millimeter, another innofader-esque bonus, right? I've never been compelled to purchase a replacement crossfader, so I'm not actually sure what people get out of them, but the fader on this Denon will do just fine.

Also found another gripe: Switching between Midi and Audio control is cool, and your audio settings are always locked in, but your MIDI settings, however, are not. So if you control something through midi, then switch to audio and make an adjustment with the same knob/fader, when you go back into midi the parameter you've mapped to that knob/fader will jump to the new position, instead of waiting for the knob/fader to return to position and pick up from there. Got fingers and toes crossed for a firmware update on that one.

@djwunder. I was sure you would be more then happy. Another fine denon convert

Yeah and you were right freestyle. You could consider me a convert, although it'll take a while to get used to the drop in quality of customer service/warranty/literature/support/forums/use of the english language. Definitely love the mixer though!

Ya good part is ive never really had to use any of there customer support.

Ah that's a good point. You know I'm already contacting them about a firmware update to make the pitch effect usable, but I look forward to using this mixer, trouble-free, for years to come

@Wunder - Any other feedback, issues, tips, etc. since the last update?
I have mine but haven't been able to use it yet. My turntables are apart for service and painting. Should have one of them ready by Sunday. I did update the firmware and scroll through the menus to get familiar with them, but no live action yet.

Still exploring. I ran into an issue when trying to use it as a soundcard in Ableton, none of my audio was passing through. Simple fix: make sure the sample rates are all set the same. I don't fully understand their function, but there are 2 or 3 parts of the menu where you can set sample rate, I set all mine to 48 and had 4 stereo tracks recording simultaneously in Ableton in no time! Works great for mixtapes, with the full mix, deck 1, deck 2, and deck 3/sp-6/bridge/mic each on their own track for editing later.

So yeah, loving everything so far. Output is hot as hell, volume fader contours are a little drastic (being digital and all) so there is a big difference between each step, but that's really nitpicking

looks pretty slick. I'm thinking about selling my NUO4 and picking up a 57, but this just entered my radar

I think this mixer makes a strong contender if you're looking for a 4-channel that controls Serato. I wanted a 4-channel, and had the choice between the 68 and this denon+SL4. I went with the Denon+SL4 combo for 3 reasons:

1. I wouldn't carry the 68 to every gig, there are always a variety of mixers at other venues, so I need a standalone SSL box anyways
2. The midi capablities + dicers give me all the control the 57 gave me and close enough to the 68.
3. Denon+SL4+Dicers = $600 more in my pocket vs. the 68

+1

Thanks Wunder for the review. May order one tomorrow if they price is right.

I have the DN-X1600 now over two months. i work in the lest 3 years with : DJM-800, DJM-900, TTM57, XONE 92. and i have one thing to say - the X1600/1700 is the best mixer in the market right now except the XONE-DB4.

This mixer is amazing, denon its underrated company. I give a brief review about this mixer:

Sound - great warm sound. very similar to the excellent A&H XONE series. 9/10.

Upfaders - long, smooth but not loose. great upfaders. 9/10.

Crossfader - Vestax class. i very surprised about the cross. the 4ch mixers (djm,xone)
provide a nice cross but not one to impress scratch djs. the X-1600 do this. 8.5/10.

FX - the weak spot of the X1600. the DJM800/900 only plus over this mixer. i have many things to say about the fx section but really its to much to write. 5.5/10.

MIDI - the best midi-mixer in the market right now. better than X1700(no separate midi section. and better than DB4.
95 percent on the mixer is midi capable. even the crossfader, the line section midi mode is the most brilliant mixers tech i see lest two years. 9.5/10. it could be 10 if the mixer was percent midi.

MIC - 2 great preamp. the ducking is brilliant, its more than just talkover. the eq mic section its combined for the two mics - its a little bummer. 7/10.

Matrix Input - in one word? WOW! in two Words? Fucking WOW. i do nasty things with the denon input matrix system. the XONE DB4 emulate this function from denon and they know what they doing. 10/10.

Built Quality - the one thing is worried me before i purchase denon mixer. but i mistake in big time. its a Israel army tank. 9/10.

My conclusion about the DN-X1600? - the best mixer in the market except the XONE DB4.
the pioneer djm series over priced and certainly good like the xone and denon latest mixers.
everything on this mixer its simply great - except the FX.

The DENON company earned my as a buyer.

i meant the pioneer is certainly not good like the xone and denon latest mixers.

Sold my DJM800 for close to what I payed for it. With that money I bought a brand new
DN-X1600. Plus I just got a SUPER deal on a blue Empath that was barely used, squeaky clean condition, like it just came out of the box. On top of that I still have a few $$ left over from the sale. I'll give my thoughts on the Denon once it sees some action, from the looks of the reviews above I think I should be satisfied.

Haven't messed with the 1600 but did own the 1700 for a bit. I though the sound quality was okay. The fader and master volume were to finicky for me as well. I ultimately ended up with the DJM-900 and have no regrets.

I use my mixer myself and for rental. Its very rider friendly with touring DJs. I should make back what I paid for the mixer within a year so it is basically free.

Thanks for the review Comixon



Try to get it around $800. Ty at agiprodj hooked me up.



I think so too, look forward to hearing your thoughts. It's true the resale and rental of the djm800 will always be good, but look you got a great new 4-channel AND an Empath!

One of the biggest dj companys here in chicago is sponsered by denon and uses the 1700 and 3700's on all there gigs at the highschools and they put on a show thats the biggest ive ever seen for a school. it would blow all your minds so denon is getitng out there more for the younger crowd witch is good and they also sponsered this years highschool dj battle statewide so denon is trying for sure.

Are they getting free or highly discounted gear? This could be a reason the company is using the equipment. If they are a multi-op company they this could be a key factor as to why they use the gear. Not trying to hate but these things usually boil down to dollars and cents.

Denon has a solid base on the mobile market. Are they going to be able to break into the club market though? Tough call.

They all used denon before like we all do in the mobile market so im sure thats why they decided to have the relationship and discounted gear is a bonus but unless the gear lives up to what you need all the discounts or free dont matter. you could give me free dj gear by alot of companys and i would never but my clients at risk for a failing party. no way. It will be hard for denon to make its way into clubs but anybody who has used a 3700 will see why it blows cdj out of the water

Just copped the X1600 to tide me over while my DJM800 is in the shop. my initial impression is that it's really nice. very clean sounding, very loud. tons of functionality... maybe too much. anybody have any cool Serato mappings they'd like to share?

How do you export mappings? Mine is still a work in progress while I get my optimal workflow down, but it would be good to know

Go To Setup>Midi tab (While Rane interface/Mixer connected) then save midi settings.
The mapping (xml file) will be present in _Serato_/MIDI folder ....

Thanks

Using my 1600 and my 3700's in midi hybrid mode why would anybody who learned on turntables want cdjs. these 3 are monsters.