Cheaper to buy a 61 or a 62

You can retro fit any mixer with a serato/rane soundcard given that there is enough space inside the mixer, so open it up and see if you have enough space to fit it in,

Then if it does fit you can choose to solder it into the inputs or wire it with rca's

I was just going to ask this the other day and for someone to post the internals of the 57.

Really and truly a new audio interface board could have been made to extend the life of this mixer.

by no means am I an engineer but it would be cool if Rane
made mixers with replaceable upgrades
similar to what Samsung is doing with tvs

if the 57 is going to become unsupported due to sound cards
maybe future mixers can be upgradeable
then have new bodies models
for those that want all the bells and whistles (again like Samsung is doing with TV)

The thing is if usb 1.1 was going to be the limitation. I would gladly pay for a board upgrade if it existed.

or a smart business move, it's not worth the investment to impliment the 57sl. It is better to move forward with the newer products on the market.

I think it covers both ends
if its possible, say an upgrade is 200-400 dollars which many people would drop
like your hobby, bedroom djs for an upgrade

and then have ranges of mixers that have all the bells and whistles
that some would find useful and would drop 1800-2600

there has to be a decent amount of people that still have their 57s because they dont
find dropping 2500 for a new mixer is worth it for 2.0 usb
I being one of them, I wouldnt bat an eye dropping a few hundred for upgrade

Rane 61 is roughly $1399. No Tax and Free Shipping if you get it out of state.

A 61 is not a 57 equivalent, there is no onboard controls.

+1

I love the feeling and the way the 57 combines the look of a classic mixer and some controller features.

Although I like how the new mixers implement the effects and some other features, I still would prefer to pay for a board update on my 57SL. The 61 is not enough for me and the 62 is too much.

I understand the change is necessary but this quick obsolescence of my loved 57SL makes me think of keeping the mixer and the serato controller separated in the future.

So if the mod is not going to be available, I will prefer to buy the SL2, 3 or 4 before taking the risk on a new mixer.

Well the more I've worked with the 62 in recent months has made me realize that I must upgrade.

Especially since I borrowed an SL4 to use Serato DJ. My club residency has a 68 so it's inevitable now.

It came out in early 2006, and it was three years after that when Rane released the first USB2 SL device (SL3). Another three years until the 61/62 was released.

The main issue of any retrofits to the 57 intending to upgrade the audio and/or USB connectivity would be the cost of development/debugging. The time and materials for a one-off upgrade like that could easily exceed the cost of a whole new mixer.

The only way such a thing would ever happen is if someone/some company/Rane themselves were convinced that the cost of such R&D would be paid for by a lot of 57 owners eager to upgrade their mixers.

I (with regret) give that a zero chance of ever happening. I say with regret because there were quite a few things about the 57 that I miss on the newer mixers.

I'm a huge fan of the 57 too. The newer mixers don't have that same classy, clean cut look in my opinion. Somewhat off topic, but if you were to use the SL 2 or 3 with the 57, would you be able to use all the onboard controls midi controls (say, like the flex effect, P1 and P2 knobs and B1-B6 buttons) with Serato DJ?

The 57 doesn't use MIDI, it is tied directly into Scratch Live (and Video-SL).

I agree with you 100% I wish they kept the professional look of the 57 on the new mixers. All the new mixers look like skittles and shit. Too many colors and loud LEDs.

A lot of the OTHER DVS programs now work with the 57. Mixvibes and VDJ 8. I still use SSL. But I will NEVER get rid of my 57. I will get a 62 or whatever this SUPPOSED Pioneer mixer is. But for now, my 57 is doing just fine.

I'm trying to skip the 61 or 62, so far its going OK.

Virtual DJ 8 works with ttm57sl? i was sure it was locked.

the 57 looked good,had a nice layout but its usb1 and sounded shit,great for at home but on a good rig sounded terrible(i know this as i tested it with a Midas desk and F1 soundsystem and compared it along side a formula sound mixer playing the same files on both setups and the 57 sounded piss poor)
it was the 1st of its kind and was a ground breaking bit of kit but now obsolete.
sell it or use it as a door stop and move with the times or keep it and use it as is.
Rane and Serato are in the business of making money so why would they retro fit an old mixer thats something for a small men in sheds type of business to do.

I regret selling my 57 just because mix tape works perfect with it

I still think people are mistaking a lower level output or the 57 for poor sound quality (16k 44.1)
The 57 was an upgrade from the SL1 and the same as SL2 and so on.

From my testing the 57 very faithfully reproduced what was put in. Other platforms said to sound better might have had a louder output and a collaring which people maybe preferred. But say the 57 had poor audio quality - nah

This is what I've been saying. Especially testing it with vinyl, I never heard terrible sound quality. The output on 56/57 has always been lower in my experience than let's say a pio mixer. Which has way more headroom. But a PA mixer resolves this.

The pioneer output is hotter for sure, but other than that the 57 sounds great to me.

my test results had nothing to do with a lower out put levels.
we used the best kit we could get our hands on,MIDAS VENICE desk and Funktion One dance stack,hard to find a better desk and PA system at the time .we spent most of the day A/B'ing files and mixers just to be sure.my engineer for day has worked with and for the likes of Funktion One,Masters At Work,Dixon,Norman Jay and just about every club in London and the guy know his shit.so i can say without a doubt we did the best test we could.
two days after sold the 57 and went back to using a 56 and sl3

This is where I question things. You do realize that using the 57 with an SL3 is the same as a 56 right? Actually, you do, that came off wrong, but it's using A/D conversations, did you test it with wax or just serato? Out of curiosity.

test was with just serato using mp3's and wav's oh and i also stopped using mp3's(apart from the odd promo) after the day of testing

Why don’t you buy a Mark2 version of this mixer in cash, swap the sound cards then bring the newer mixer back for a refund say it has a problem.
Test if your mixer works with Serato DJ first :)

This thread is 3 years old, FYI. You just revived a 3 year old thread lol

LMAO

I'm still on board for a 57 with a sl 2/3 soundcard in it if any of you ever figured it out!

Will never happen, bad business move, tech support nightmare, more engineering, more money to produce, the list goes on...



Again, this will never happen.