Ok, Pdidy and Joee......

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:20 PM - 6 January, 2015

Here's your mission, if you decide to accept it...

Get me from a Cerwin V35 Full Range Solution to something compatible which sounds just as good if not better.

Here are the current specs of my speakers.

Model - V-35C
Useable Frequency Response - 50Hz - 16kHz
EIA Power Handling Capacity - 300W
1m SPL @1W: 105db
1m SPL @ Rated Input" 130db
Nominal Dispertion (HxV Degrees) 90x40
Nominal Impedance 8 Ohms

Components:
LF: (1) 188EB, 18" Cone, 3" VC
MF: (1) 16 ohm JHM-1 1" Throat
Compression Driver & 90x40
Controlled Coverage Horn
HF: (1) H-25 Compression Horn Tweeter

Crossovers: 1.2kHz 3-Pole HP
7kHz 2-Pole HP
Connections: (2) 1/4" Phone Jacks
Enclosure: Vented, Directional Front Baffle, Plywood
Finish & Features: Indoor/Outdoor Carpet, Handles, Wheels, Metal Corners, Rubber Feet
Protections & Controls: MF Auto-Resetting Relay, HF Auto-Resetting Circuit Breaker
Dimensions (HxWxD) (36"x24"x20")
Gross Weight (Packed): 125 lbs

I usually do events with these speakers up to about 250-300 people.

Here's a link to the spec sheet - www.djjohnnym.com

And GO!

:)

Joee 2:44 PM - 6 January, 2015

so the zxa5 is no longer a option for you……just off the top of my head without reading your entire post…..

you looking for a 3 way option to replace your old CV? why not look into?
www.electrovoice.com

Taipanic 2:45 PM - 6 January, 2015

If you are wanting to stay three way I would think the EV ETX line would have you covered very nicely. ETX-35P and ETX-18P subs.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:49 PM - 6 January, 2015

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so the zxa5 is no longer a option for you……

No, I never said that...

I don't need a 3 way per se.

I can go with a 2-way / Sub option.

Fire away...

DJ GaFFle 2:51 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If you are wanting to stay three way I would think the EV ETX line would have you covered very nicely. ETX-35P and ETX-18P subs.

I was thinking the same thing but since he called out for Pdidy and Joee's opinion, I was going to give them the pleasure of answering first. :-) He wouldn't even need the ETX sub from jump, the ETX-35P's would sound nice solo. Of course subs always give a better and more full/complete sound. He'll save weight on the tops PLUS they are pole mountable. Those Vegas are older than many on this board ('85-'91). What's funny is they're probably made in USA too unlike any new CV gear.

DJ GaFFle 2:52 PM - 6 January, 2015

JM didn't mention if he wanted to stick with passive or powered. I'd recommend powered.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:53 PM - 6 January, 2015

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just off the top of my head without reading your entire post…..

LMAO! I always said you hated reading stuff...

READ THE POST!

I put a lot of specific info in there...sensitivity, wattage, weight, etc.. that I want you and Pdidy to take into consideration.

The real reason why this is coming up is that I'm looking to change my car from a Van to an SUV.

A speaker standing 3 feet tall doesn't really work in an SUV nowadays...

So, The ZXA5 is def on the radar, I just need a suitable sub that will go with it, that will also fit in the SUV.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:54 PM - 6 January, 2015

Oh Gaffle, my bad, you KNOW I know you know your stuff, so my apologies, and also to the guy who is standing next to the speaker in his avi.

I'm looking for Powered....BTW...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:56 PM - 6 January, 2015

I'm looking for something that will outdo what I already have but in Powered fashion, and not standing 3 feet tall in an SUV.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:58 PM - 6 January, 2015

I didn't know if the ZXA5's were still the defacto standard since I heard a lot of talk about that RCF....so I just threw my specs out there to the wolves.... :-)

Joee 2:59 PM - 6 January, 2015

i honestly think any one of the good 18" subs/12" top combos will satisfy you

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:03 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

you looking for a 3 way option to replace your old CV? why not look into?
www.electrovoice.com

That only has a 15" woofer tho...

That would compete with my 18"?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:07 PM - 6 January, 2015

Let me be more specific...

I need a powered solution...

Can be the ZXA5 for the top...

What sub would you add to that to equal the Cerwin V35?

DJ GaFFle 3:07 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

A speaker standing 3 feet tall doesn't really work in an SUV nowadays...

So, The ZXA5 is def on the radar, I just need a suitable sub that will go with it, that will also fit in the SUV.

That blows the ETX35P's out the water... they're 40" tall but much skinnier and lighter than your CV 35's.

So if you want an all out top for the next... (((checks JM's Cerwin Vega 35's specs))) 24-30 yrs, consider that RCF 745A. They aren't screwing around with that 4" horn like all the other manufacturers with their 1.75" or smaller horns. You aren't doing bad though with those 15" tops from EV (ETX) (ZXA5) and some of the other GC brands. They're generally very good tops.

Joee 3:10 PM - 6 January, 2015

so what is your total budget? per sub & per top?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:10 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Those Vegas are older than many on this board ('85-'91). What's funny is they're probably made in USA too unlike any new CV gear.

Dude, I couldn't find the specs on those speakers ANYWHERE on the net... I had to dig and find my own technical documents from when I bought the speakers, scan them in and put them up...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:15 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

so what is your total budget? per sub & per top?

Assume I can pay for the ZXA5's, I'm budgeting for that already....

I'm looking for a good, better and best option for whatever sub y'all recommend..

Now Gaffle is mentioning the RCF 745A's?

Is that more than the ZXA5's?

I personally feel the Cerwin specs are impressive and I've BEEN saying they knock, but I need to get away from their 3 foot height, and it looks like the ETX35P is 4 inches taller...

The height at the party I can handle with stands....and whatever y'all recommend for the top....

DJ GaFFle 3:18 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Those Vegas are older than many on this board ('85-'91). What's funny is they're probably made in USA too unlike any new CV gear.

Dude, I couldn't find the specs on those speakers ANYWHERE on the net... I had to dig and find my own technical documents from when I bought the speakers, scan them in and put them up...

LoL... tag that properly on your website. It'll get you some hits from others looking for it.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:18 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

That blows the ETX35P's out the water... they're 40" tall but much skinnier and lighter than your CV 35's.

Just for sh*ts and giggles, wouldn't the lack of weight diminish the bass response? Remember, the CV's have an 18" woofer...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:19 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

So if you want an all out top for the next... (((checks JM's Cerwin Vega 35's specs))) 24-30 yrs, consider that RCF 745A. They aren't screwing around with that 4" horn like all the other manufacturers with their 1.75" or smaller horns. You aren't doing bad though with those 15" tops from EV (ETX) (ZXA5) and some of the other GC brands. They're generally very good tops.

So you're saying the RCF 745A over the ZXA5?

DJ GaFFle 3:24 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

so what is your total budget? per sub & per top?

Assume I can pay for the ZXA5's, I'm budgeting for that already....

I'm looking for a good, better and best option for whatever sub y'all recommend..

Now Gaffle is mentioning the RCF 745A's?

Is that more than the ZXA5's?

I think they're about the same price. I own the ZXA5's but my knock on them is that they lack built-in limiting. There's no little yellow light that tells you they're being pushed too hard. If you're not careful, they're subject to go. I use an external DSP sometimes with them when I know I'll play for a large crowd. You won't have that problem with the 745A's because they have limiters (although all speakers are capable of being blown).

One dude on here said they're almost as loud as the EV's but noticeably smoother sounding, which is partly due to their large 4" horn (the EV's have a 2" horn driver). The looks are a knock against the 745's as they don't look quite as professional as the EV's.

Joee 3:24 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Assume I can pay for the ZXA5's, I'm budgeting for that already....

ok……….there are plenty of good top box's you can get for $1,300 each, but you have to be more spasific with you sub budget

you can get a $1,300 sub or a $3,000 sub

DJ GaFFle 3:25 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

So if you want an all out top for the next... (((checks JM's Cerwin Vega 35's specs))) 24-30 yrs, consider that RCF 745A. They aren't screwing around with that 4" horn like all the other manufacturers with their 1.75" or smaller horns. You aren't doing bad though with those 15" tops from EV (ETX) (ZXA5) and some of the other GC brands. They're generally very good tops.

So you're saying the RCF 745A over the ZXA5?

If the Darth Vador/edgy looks of the RCF don't bother you, yes.

Joee 3:30 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If the Darth Vador/edgy looks of the RCF don't bother you, yes.

i also wouldn't rule out the hd32, that with a good 18" would be nice

DJ GaFFle 3:32 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If the Darth Vador/edgy looks of the RCF don't bother you, yes.

i also wouldn't rule out the hd32, that with a good 18" would be nice

Yeah, he has tons of choices.

Johnny, do you care if your top brand doesn't match your sub brand or do you want all JBL, all EV, all RCF?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:34 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

so what is your total budget? per sub & per top?

Assume I can pay for the ZXA5's, I'm budgeting for that already....

I'm looking for a good, better and best option for whatever sub y'all recommend..

Now Gaffle is mentioning the RCF 745A's?

Is that more than the ZXA5's?

I think they're about the same price. I own the ZXA5's but my knock on them is that they lack built-in limiting. There's no little yellow light that tells you they're being pushed too hard. If you're not careful, they're subject to go. I use an external DSP sometimes with them when I know I'll play for a large crowd. You won't have that problem with the 745A's because they have limiters (although all speakers are capable of being blown).

One dude on here said they're almost as loud as the EV's but noticeably smoother sounding, which is partly due to their large 4" horn (the EV's have a 2" horn driver). The looks are a knock against the 745's as they don't look quite as professional as the EV's.

Yeah, I saw that look...."Eh"...EV's are way sexier...

I'm pretty good with my ears, but noone is perfect....

I was also considering having to buy that DriveRack thing if I got the EV's as well, but if the 745's have the "Caution" light, and a limiter, and a smoother sound....that's pretty good...

Then again, belonging to the ZXA5 crew has it's benefits as well.... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:35 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Assume I can pay for the ZXA5's, I'm budgeting for that already....

ok……….there are plenty of good top box's you can get for $1,300 each, but you have to be more spasific with you sub budget

you can get a $1,300 sub or a $3,000 sub

Look at the specs of the Cerwin that I put up....and start from there...

I want it to be at least 18"....and can handle 250-300 folks with no problem for starters....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:36 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

If the Darth Vador/edgy looks of the RCF don't bother you, yes.

i also wouldn't rule out the hd32, that with a good 18" would be nice

Now there's 3 contenders?

I thought it was squarely between the EV and the RCF....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:38 PM - 6 January, 2015

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Johnny, do you care if your top brand doesn't match your sub brand or do you want all JBL, all EV, all RCF?

It would be "Nice" to match...

I assume the top would either be the ZXA5 or RCF 745A.

A matching sub for each would be great, but not necessary, throw me what you have...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:39 PM - 6 January, 2015

However, I would assume that name brands work well together when you start doing stuff like adding Drive Racks and whatnot...

Joee 3:39 PM - 6 January, 2015

my recommendation for being portable sounding good & not being super expensive

18" sub $1,500
www.jblpro.com

12" top $900
www.rcf.it

Joee 3:40 PM - 6 January, 2015

but again like gaf said there are a number of great options in your price range

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:41 PM - 6 January, 2015

That HD32-A is up there with the ZXA5?

desmorider 3:41 PM - 6 January, 2015

Budget, budget, budget. Solutions can range from $5000 to over the cost of a new car for four powered boxes. No sense in looking at $10,000 plus solutions when you only want ti spend x anount of money. I'm not pdiddy or joee, sorry if you feel im out of line for answering. Give them your maximum budget and im sure they will present you with great solutions. Will you use subs at all of your gigs? What size are your crowds usually, and what kind of music do you usually play?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:42 PM - 6 January, 2015

I need to be able to utilize the tops as standalones also....if it wasn't already assumed....

I assume the ZXA5 and the RCF745A can fit that bill, no?

DJ GaFFle 3:44 PM - 6 January, 2015

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That HD32-A is up there with the ZXA5?

Watch www.youtube.com
Watch www.youtube.com
From one of the board members. The RCF HD32-A is most definitely not as loud the EV but clarity is there. I'm not sure of his thoughts on the bass because the HD32-A is only a 12" vs. the EV's 15" driver.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:45 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Budget, budget, budget. Solutions can range from $5000 to over the cost of a new car for four powered boxes. No sense in looking at $10,000 plus solutions when you only want ti spend x anount of money. I'm not pdiddy or joee, sorry if you feel im out of line for answering. Give them your maximum budget and im sure they will present you with great solutions. Will you use subs at all of your gigs? What size are your crowds usually, and what kind of music do you usually play?

No problem, thanks for answering...

I already said assume I can afford 2 ZXA5's.

I won't use subs at all of my gigs, as a matter of fact, I'll start using just tops in the near future for Day parties and that junk. The crowds can range from 150- 300 folks.

I play Bass Heavy R&B, HipHop, Reggae, House, Club, etc...

Go by the Cerwin Specs I posted above and build from there....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:47 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

That HD32-A is up there with the ZXA5?

Watch www.youtube.com
Watch www.youtube.com
From one of the board members. The RCF HD32-A is most definitely not as loud the EV but clarity is there. I'm not sure of his thoughts on the bass because the HD32-A is only a 12" vs. the EV's 15" driver.

If it's not as loud as the EV, I'm probably not going for it...

I want that loudness or something close to it....from what I'm hearing....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:48 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

my recommendation for being portable sounding good & not being super expensive

18" sub $1,500
www.jblpro.com

12" top $900
www.rcf.it

Would you consider that JBL sub a "Good, Better, or Best Option?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:50 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

but again like gaf said there are a number of great options in your price range

So let's assume it's either the ZXA5 or the RCF 745A.

What are the comparable subs that YOU guys would get?

1 top and 1 sub per side....

desmorider 3:55 PM - 6 January, 2015

If you dont like the looks of the rcf stuff, look at the etx stuff. Etx15p and etx18sp. Very nice setup. Great onboard dsp and onboard protection. Best thing about it is that you don't have to take our word on it, you can hear it at your local gc. If the 18 sub is too big, get the 15. Complete setup of four boxes are around $5000. One listen to a 745a, and looks become less of a focal point.

Joee 3:57 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

I won't use subs at all of my gigs

taking this into consideration i would defiantly get the zxa5 or art 745

Quote:

So let's assume it's either the ZXA5 or the RCF 745A.

What are the comparable subs that YOU guys would get?

1 top and 1 sub per side....

paired with the 745
www.rcf.it

www.rcf.it

paired with the zxa5
www.electrovoice.com

www.jblpro.com

desmorider 4:01 PM - 6 January, 2015

I say either
2-zxa5's and 1or 2 etx18sp's

Or

2-art745a's and 1 or 2 rcf 8004 or 8003 subs

Do realize that if you enjoy lots of bass you will at some point want to add more subs.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:07 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

If you dont like the looks of the rcf stuff, look at the etx stuff. Etx15p and etx18sp. Very nice setup. Great onboard dsp and onboard protection. Best thing about it is that you don't have to take our word on it, you can hear it at your local gc. If the 18 sub is too big, get the 15. Complete setup of four boxes are around $5000. One listen to a 745a, and looks become less of a focal point.

Good info.

I want an 18" inch sub tho...I just have to buy my next vehicle around that thought...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:08 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

I won't use subs at all of my gigs

taking this into consideration i would defiantly get the zxa5 or art 745

Quote:

So let's assume it's either the ZXA5 or the RCF 745A.

What are the comparable subs that YOU guys would get?

1 top and 1 sub per side....

paired with the 745
www.rcf.it

www.rcf.it

paired with the zxa5
www.electrovoice.com

www.jblpro.com

Ok, NOW we're talking....

desmorider 4:08 PM - 6 January, 2015

Just make sure any sub you get with the rcf's have high pass filters in the subs. The rcf subs have the high pass filters, some others like the yorkvilles don't.

I say get two tops and one sub first. If that sounds good to you then your done. If you need more bass, keep adding subs till satisfied. Sort of like adding salt and spice to food. Season to taste.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:14 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

I say either
2-zxa5's and 1or 2 etx18sp's

Or

2-art745a's and 1 or 2 rcf 8004 or 8003 subs

Do realize that if you enjoy lots of bass you will at some point want to add more subs.

Nice suggestions...

Oh, trust...

I'm a BASS HEAD....

But I'm not doing big shows anymore, so ...

I was the first on the block to successfully bridge a Peavey CS-800 amp to a true 800 Watts, and pump that into single Cerwin Vega Jr. Earthquakes loaded with JBL 2241's...

I had more Bass output per square inch than you could shake a stick at ....and it would all fit into a van.

Then added some Sonic W-Bins and filled them with RCF's and would bridge QSC 1500a's to 1500 Watts RMS, and would run a SINGLE bin powered off of those....

It wasn't a game back then...

www.djjohnnym.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:15 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Just make sure any sub you get with the rcf's have high pass filters in the subs. The rcf subs have the high pass filters, some others like the yorkvilles don't.

I say get two tops and one sub first. If that sounds good to you then your done. If you need more bass, keep adding subs till satisfied. Sort of like adding salt and spice to food. Season to taste.

I know I'll need two subs to start....

DJ GaFFle 4:17 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

but again like gaf said there are a number of great options in your price range

So let's assume it's either the ZXA5 or the RCF 745A.

What are the comparable subs that YOU guys would get?

1 top and 1 sub per side....

So yeah, as far as tops...

ZXA5's tops...
△ Louder than all affordable powered 2-way tops (period)
△ 15" driver (sounds great standalone for crowds up to 150 or so)
△ Looks better than most powered tops. (tuxedo look for wedding pics/subdued design)
△ Made in USA
△ Can get raspy/harsh as the loudest volumes
△ No limiting and requires external limiting device (eg: DriveRack) for best protection
△ Only 50 lbs
△ Pole mountable and flyable

RCF 745A...
△ 4" high compression driver (gets smooth, loud and clear)
△ Lower crossover point due to 4" driver (projects a tighter, farther, more focused sound)
△ Built-in limiter
△ Lighter than the ZXA5
△ Made in Italy
△ No LPF (your sub or an external DSP will need a HPF)
△ Edgy looks

The guys above mentioned some very solid options with these two tops. Toss up right here buddy...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:17 PM - 6 January, 2015

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some others like the yorkvilles don't.

I NEVER liked Yorkvilles....but I hear they're a workhorse tho...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:19 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

but again like gaf said there are a number of great options in your price range

So let's assume it's either the ZXA5 or the RCF 745A.

What are the comparable subs that YOU guys would get?

1 top and 1 sub per side....

So yeah, as far as tops...

ZXA5's tops...
△ Louder than all affordable powered 2-way tops (period)
△ 15" driver (sounds great standalone for crowds up to 150 or so)
△ Looks better than most powered tops. (tuxedo look for wedding pics/subdued design)
△ Made in USA
△ Can get raspy/harsh as the loudest volumes
△ No limiting and requires external limiting device (eg: DriveRack) for best protection
△ Only 50 lbs
△ Pole mountable and flyable

RCF 745A...
△ 4" high compression driver (gets smooth, loud and clear)
△ Lower crossover point due to 4" driver (projects a tighter, farther, more focused sound)
△ Built-in limiter
△ Lighter than the ZXA5
△ Made in Italy
△ No LPF (your sub or an external DSP will need a HPF)
△ Edgy looks

The guys above mentioned some very solid options with these two tops. Toss up right here buddy...

MUCH APPRECIATED!

My speaker guy keeps telling me about other not so well known brands from Italy....Intrusting....

BTW, he's like the last official JBL Recone guy in existence....Eric....

www.speakerrecone.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:20 PM - 6 January, 2015

Hold up, the RCF isn't pole mountable?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:26 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Hold up, the RCF isn't pole mountable?

Ok, yeah it is..

desmorider 4:28 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Hold up, the RCF isn't pole mountable?

Huh???????
Yes it's pole mountable? Who said that. If your recone guy is talking about fbt in italy, he's talking about another quality company.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:31 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Hold up, the RCF isn't pole mountable?

Huh???????
Yes it's pole mountable? Who said that.

Gaffle specifically mentioned that it was a feature of the EV, but I didn't see it listed for the RCF....but I checked...lol.

[quote ] If your recone guy is talking about fbt in italy, he's talking about another quality company.

He mentioned something about Faital...supposedly Italy's best...

DJ GaFFle 4:36 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Hold up, the RCF isn't pole mountable?

Huh???????
Yes it's pole mountable? Who said that.

Gaffle specifically mentioned that it was a feature of the EV, but I didn't see it listed for the RCF....but I checked...lol.

[quote ] If your recone guy is talking about fbt in italy, he's talking about another quality company.

He mentioned something about Faital...supposedly Italy's best...

Yeah, just an oversight, no edit feature.

DJ GaFFle 4:38 PM - 6 January, 2015

Looks like Faital just makes drivers.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:39 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Looks like Faital just makes drivers.

Gotcha...

desmorider 4:42 PM - 6 January, 2015

Faital Pro are high quality drivers and components. I don't know if they make their own line of speaker boxes, but i have heard their horns and woofers used in other companies boxes. They oem for other companies. I believe that LD-systems use their products.

Also. You can get RCF from guitar center. You probably would need to price match to get a good price. Models would most likely not be in stock.

Joee 4:46 PM - 6 January, 2015

ay johnny demorider can tell you about the zxa5 vs 745, he posted his results of a shootout between the two

i would say that with two of these
www.rcf.it

and one of these
www.rcf.it

you will be a happy man provided the sub isn't to heavy for you

Joee 5:19 PM - 6 January, 2015

@DJJOHNNYM_vSL3

i also would not rule out a 15" sub, it has been said the the new etx15sp sounds better than a qsc kw181

desmorider 5:23 PM - 6 January, 2015

Man,
I love this place, so many guys/girls eager to talk about, help, and give advice on great quality gear. It wasn't that long ago that it seemed like every gig I was a guest at had a dj with two mackie 450's on sticks. Not a sub in sight. And this was the gear they would bring to all of their gigs, no matter if 50 or 500 people at the event. Holy shit, imagine the amount of money that mackie made off the 450's. I wonder how many of the O.G. 450's they sold.

Joee 5:32 PM - 6 January, 2015

Quote:

Man,
I love this place, so many guys/girls eager to talk about, help, and give advice on great quality gear. It wasn't that long ago that it seemed like every gig I was a guest at had a dj with two mackie 450's on sticks. Not a sub in sight. And this was the gear they would bring to all of their gigs, no matter if 50 or 500 people at the event. Holy shit, imagine the amount of money that mackie made off the 450's. I wonder how many of the O.G. 450's they sold.

man we could be here all day recommending quality subs/top……lol

for example
www.kv2audio.com

www.danleysoundlabs.com

believe it or not these 12" kick @ss!!!!!!!, johnny might look at me crazy but he would be happy with either one

Scully DJ Services 5:48 PM - 6 January, 2015

Danley Jericho

Taipanic 6:11 PM - 6 January, 2015

For what your wanting I think you should go with the ZXa5s for tops. You know the rep, they have the power you need and you have the experience to not blow them up on the first gig. for subs you could get the Yorkville LS801P. Big bass, kind of boomy but a single sub will cover most wedding type events and parties of up to 200. Good thing, because only one will fit in your new SUV. The JBL subs are good but won't really come alive until you get 4 of them (@6k). I would still think the ETX18 would fit the bill - a little smaller than the Yorkville, better sound quality, built in DSP. You might be able to get a pair in an SUV, not positive though.
I have the ZXa5/Yorkville LS800P combo. I usually run the EVs full range at -12 and watch the volume when putting out a lot of bass. It's overkill for a lot of gigs but that's how I like it. For big events I will run 3-4 Yorkvilles and high pass the EVs (which is built in). I am considering updating subs to the ETX-18s for better sound quality (though less SPL).

Joee 6:16 PM - 6 January, 2015

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For what your wanting I think you should go with the ZXa5s for tops. You know the rep, they have the power you need and you have the experience to not blow them up on the first gig. for subs you could get the Yorkville LS801P

thats defiantly a great option, the only reason i didn't recommend the york is it may be bigger than he wants

desmorider 6:23 PM - 6 January, 2015

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For what your wanting I think you should go with the ZXa5s for tops. You know the rep, they have the power you need and you have the experience to not blow them up on the first gig. for subs you could get the Yorkville LS801P. Big bass, kind of boomy but a single sub will cover most wedding type events and parties of up to 200. Good thing, because only one will fit in your new SUV. The JBL subs are good but won't really come alive until you get 4 of them (@6k). I would still think the ETX18 would fit the bill - a little smaller than the Yorkville, better sound quality, built in DSP. You might be able to get a pair in an SUV, not positive though.
I have the ZXa5/Yorkville LS800P combo. I usually run the EVs full range at -12 and watch the volume when putting out a lot of bass. It's overkill for a lot of gigs but that's how I like it. For big events I will run 3-4 Yorkvilles and high pass the EVs (which is built in). I am considering updating subs to the ETX-18s for better sound quality (though less SPL).

Can you get the yorkville and the rest of your gear in your suv? If so what kind of suv do you have? I've wondered if ls801 and other gear would fit in my yukon. Would rather leave trailer at home.

Taipanic 6:27 PM - 6 January, 2015

I had a Chevy HHR Panel and now have a Porsche Cayenne Turbo. I can get 2 ZXa5s, 2 SX200s, 1 Yorkville LS800p, 1 6ft table, 3 gear boxes (square), stands, tent, and some lighting all without using the front seat. Takes a little planning on what goes where but oonce you have it figured out I can carry what I need to most gigs. I do plan on getting a trailer though.

Joee 6:28 PM - 6 January, 2015

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Can you get the yorkville and the rest of your gear in your suv?

he gets his your in a cheavy HHR
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Joee 6:29 PM - 6 January, 2015

beat me to it…..lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:22 PM - 6 January, 2015

Good info! At work now, will check the 15" sub option.....as well...

The space I utilized before in the van (2009 Chrysler Town and Country Touring with removable captains seats) was 36" tall by 48-50" wide for the Cerwins...

Assuming you can fold down the seats in whatever SUV, the only impact should be the width...

DJ Val-BKNY11203 8:33 PM - 6 January, 2015

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Good info! At work now, will check the 15" sub option.....as well...

The space I utilized before in the van (2009 Chrysler Town and Country Touring with removable captains seats) was 36" tall by 48-50" wide for the Cerwins...

Assuming you can fold down the seats in whatever SUV, the only impact should be the width...

If you lay down the seats in the SUV you could just about anything in there. That includes the EXT-35 laying down and whatever subs you have.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:47 PM - 6 January, 2015

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man we could be here all day recommending quality subs/top……lol

for example
www.kv2audio.com

www.danleysoundlabs.com

believe it or not these 12" kick @ss!!!!!!!, johnny might look at me crazy but he would be happy with either one

Yeah, I'm lookin' at you with the Musiq Soul Child lazy eye right now...lol...

Can't nobody afford any Danley stuff mayne.....lol.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:53 PM - 6 January, 2015

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For what your wanting I think you should go with the ZXa5s for tops. You know the rep, they have the power you need and you have the experience to not blow them up on the first gig.

I'm lookin' real hard at the RCF...Built in limiters and caution lights....And with the ZXA5, I'd have to kick out extra cash for a DriveRack....

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for subs you could get the Yorkville LS801P. Big bass, kind of boomy but a single sub will cover most wedding type events and parties of up to 200. Good thing, because only one will fit in your new SUV.

Never been a fan of Yorkville...too plain lookin...

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The JBL subs are good but won't really come alive until you get 4 of them (@6k).

Ok, that's good to know...

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I would still think the ETX18 would fit the bill - a little smaller than the Yorkville, better sound quality, built in DSP. You might be able to get a pair in an SUV, not positive though.

I think if I got the ZXA5's, I'd go with the ETX18SP.

If I got the RCF 745A, I'd pair that with the 8003-AS. I need to check prices on those jawns as well...

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I have the ZXa5/Yorkville LS800P combo. I usually run the EVs full range at -12 and watch the volume when putting out a lot of bass. It's overkill for a lot of gigs but that's how I like it. For big events I will run 3-4 Yorkvilles and high pass the EVs (which is built in). I am considering updating subs to the ETX-18s for better sound quality (though less SPL).

Good info.

6 8:56 PM - 6 January, 2015

Hey Johnny, did you ever buy that mac? Otherwise, we will be looking at 2020 before this purchase happens.

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:00 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If you lay down the seats in the SUV you could just about anything in there. That includes the EXT-35 laying down and whatever subs you have.

Good point about laying down the ETX-35's....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:01 PM - 6 January, 2015

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Hey Johnny, did you ever buy that mac? Otherwise, we will be looking at 2020 before this purchase happens.

nm

No, dropped 10K on a Sweet Sixteen instead...

Move along...

Joee 9:10 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If I got the RCF 745A, I'd pair that with the 8003-AS. I need to check prices on those jawns as well..

they can be had for the $1,300 to $1,500 price range, they list for $2,000

Joee 9:11 PM - 6 January, 2015

the 8003 that is, the 745 can be had a little cheaper

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:15 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If I got the RCF 745A, I'd pair that with the 8003-AS. I need to check prices on those jawns as well..

they can be had for the $1,300 to $1,500 price range, they list for $2,000

I'm checkin' prices right now, that damn VRX918SP is like 2,000.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:17 PM - 6 January, 2015

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If I got the RCF 745A, I'd pair that with the 8003-AS. I need to check prices on those jawns as well..

they can be had for the $1,300 to $1,500 price range, they list for $2,000

I'm checkin' prices right now, that damn VRX918SP is like 2,000.

That's the B&H price tho...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:20 PM - 6 January, 2015

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the 8003 that is, the 745 can be had a little cheaper

Ok, so I don't go mindlessly shopping

Best place to get the best price for the

RCF 745-A
RCF 8003-AS

and

EV ZXA5
EV ETX-18SP ?

Joee 9:28 PM - 6 January, 2015

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I'm checkin' prices right now, that damn VRX918SP is like 2,000.

nobody around pays retail around here

example my last two rcf purchases

evox 8 retail $1,799….i paid $1,350

art 905-as $1,999……i paid $1,350

Joee 9:30 PM - 6 January, 2015

did you peep this jawn
www.rcf.it

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:30 PM - 6 January, 2015

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I'm checkin' prices right now, that damn VRX918SP is like 2,000.

nobody around pays retail around here

example my last two rcf purchases

evox 8 retail $1,799….i paid $1,350

art 905-as $1,999……i paid $1,350

I get that...lol..

What should I expect to pay for the following -

RCF 745-A
RCF 8003-AS

and

EV ZXA5
EV ETX-18SP ?

Joee 9:38 PM - 6 January, 2015

RCF 745-A…….less than $1,300
RCF 8003-AS….anywhere from $1,300 to $1,500

and

EV ZXA5…….around $1,300 maybe more
EV ETX-18SP ?……around $1,200 maybe more

Joee 9:47 PM - 6 January, 2015

and another thing coming from what you use now to what you have used in the past ….

i would really consider a setup like this here
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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:01 PM - 6 January, 2015

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RCF 745-A…….less than $1,300
RCF 8003-AS….anywhere from $1,300 to $1,500

and

EV ZXA5…….around $1,300 maybe more
EV ETX-18SP ?……around $1,200 maybe more

So the RCF solution should be no more than about 6000.00.

The EV solution about 5200.00 or so...

Joee 10:17 PM - 6 January, 2015

we can be here all day…..another option would be

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

81lbs subs & 77lbs tops

www.electrovoice.com

www.electrovoice.com

114lbs subs & 91lbs tops

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:57 AM - 7 January, 2015

Joee, what did you do with Pdidy? lmao.

Joee 2:20 AM - 7 January, 2015

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Joee, what did you do with Pdidy? lmao.

huh?……..lol

Joee 2:21 AM - 7 January, 2015

i'm surprised he hasn't chimed in yet, he must be busy……..

Joee 2:35 AM - 7 January, 2015

& you still didn't answer the question

did you peep this jawn-->www.rcf.it

one of those with two 745's will make a nice system

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:52 AM - 7 January, 2015

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& you still didn't answer the question

did you peep this jawn-->www.rcf.it

one of those with two 745's will make a nice system

146 lbs is NOT the move...

Joee 2:59 AM - 7 January, 2015

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& you still didn't answer the question

did you peep this jawn-->www.rcf.it

one of those with two 745's will make a nice system

146 lbs is NOT the move...

yea it is heavy….but it's only like 30lbs more than the 8003….& the bass will give you a case of nausea and vomiting

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:07 AM - 7 January, 2015

I'd want two, but space is a premium with an SUV...

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 3:15 AM - 7 January, 2015

Hey Joee thanks again for all of the advice a couple of weeks ago. Tomorrow I'm going in to trade in my KW153s to a local audio store(not GC). They are going to give me 1/2 of market value so I'll probably get about $700 for each. I hate losing so much on them but I doubt I'll find a buyer to give me $1000 per speaker even if I throw in the case. Then I'm taking that money and I've decided I want the RCF 745. I'll have to make up some of the balance but that's cool. Anything to stop having to put a 87 lbs speaker up on a pole by myself. That shit got old real quick. I was almost going to pull the trigger on a pair of HD32A but from the sounds of it the RCF 745 is better. I'm going to use them with a pair of QSC KW181 subs for a while and eventually buy a pair of RCF subs. Anyways, this thread was exactly what I needed to pull the trigger so thanks Johnny for asking the question!

desmorider 3:23 AM - 7 January, 2015

Dude your getting dicked on that price. I sold a set of 152'$1500. Are you in a rush to sell them? If not put them on craigslist. Where are you locatied.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:34 AM - 7 January, 2015

BTW, went to GC on the way from home and peeped out the EXX-18SP. Ok, that jawn knocks...I thought dude had more than one sub on....

Bananaz.

I need to put some songs on an iPod or my phone and hear how they sound myself...

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 3:41 AM - 7 January, 2015

Trust me I know man. I'm in Kansas City. Just ready to get rid of them honestly. I bought them about 3 years ago to be used exclusively at a venue(big space) that recommended only me for weddings(the only reason I purchased such big ass speakers). That venue owners were pushed out by the building owners once the lease ran out so now I'm much more mobile. I also have a pair of K12's but my wife takes those when she DJs and I take the 153's(when we both DJ on the same day). Anyways yeah I hate taking such a hit. I thought about trying Craigslist but figured no one is looking for big ass speakers like that. Might give it a try.

desmorider 3:47 AM - 7 January, 2015

Bands love kw153's. Weight is not an issue with bands, they usually roll 5-10 deep. I think its worth a try to list them. Face to Face cash deals only. No shipping, no checks, no bullshit.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:47 AM - 7 January, 2015

They also had an ETX15P that "Seemed" loud as sh*t....

How does that perceived "loudness" compare to the ZXA5 since I've never heard the ZXA5 in person yet?

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 3:51 AM - 7 January, 2015

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Bands love kw153's. Weight is not an issue with bands, they usually roll 5-10 deep. I think its worth a try to list them. Face to Face cash deals only. No shipping, no checks, no bullshit.

Not a bad idea. I'll post them tonight and see what happens. What's a good price to ask for for 3 year old 153s with covers? I was thinking $1000. New with covers is $1600.

Sorry fellas don't mean to derail the convo so if I need to start a new thread just let me know.

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 4:09 AM - 7 January, 2015

Now I remember why I didn't think they'd sell on CL. I just looked on there and there is a pair of 153s that someone's been trying to sell since Late November. Asking price is $900 with covers.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:50 AM - 7 January, 2015

The advantages of the ETX vs the ZAX5 is the new speakers have the limiters & DSP built it.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:35 AM - 7 January, 2015

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The advantages of the ETX vs the ZAX5 is the new speakers have the limiters & DSP built it.

Gotcha...so this ETX15P vs. the ZAX5?

Why is this ETX15P like 700 bucks?

Joee 1:30 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Hey Joee thanks again

no problem

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Gotcha...so this ETX15P vs. the ZAX5?

Why is this ETX15P like 700 bucks?

you mean $1,300, thats list price

DJ GaFFle 3:04 PM - 7 January, 2015

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& you still didn't answer the question

did you peep this jawn-->www.rcf.it

one of those with two 745's will make a nice system

146 lbs is NOT the move...

yea it is heavy….but it's only like 30lbs more than the 8003….& the bass will give you a case of nausea and vomiting

Yea, and it's only 21 lbs more than one of your passive Cerwin Vega tops. :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:51 PM - 7 January, 2015

Quote:

& you still didn't answer the question

did you peep this jawn-->www.rcf.it

one of those with two 745's will make a nice system

146 lbs is NOT the move...

yea it is heavy….but it's only like 30lbs more than the 8003….& the bass will give you a case of nausea and vomiting

Yea, and it's only 21 lbs more than one of your passive Cerwin Vega tops. :-)

But then I'd go from lifting what I have now to adding 42 extra pounds...

Nah, the 8003 sounds like a winner...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:51 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Hey Joee thanks again

no problem

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Gotcha...so this ETX15P vs. the ZAX5?

Why is this ETX15P like 700 bucks?

you mean $1,300, thats list price

I was in GC and it was selling for like 700 bucks....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:51 PM - 7 January, 2015

The ETX15P.

Taipanic 3:59 PM - 7 January, 2015

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The ETX15P.

That sounds like the ELX115. Either they have it mispriced or mislableled or you mistook it for the ETX. The ETX will have a blue LCD in the rear.

desmorider 4:06 PM - 7 January, 2015

If the etx15p was selling for 700, you need to go back and purchase however many they have in stock at that location. I would.

DJ GaFFle 4:18 PM - 7 January, 2015

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The ETX15P.

Noper... not with a ZXA5 unless you have at least 4 of them. Even with 4, I bet you'll still want more low end because the ZXA5's scream, mucho loud.

That 15" sub is convenient and knocks but doesn't beat the 18" subs in lows and overall loudness. With this new setup you're considering, you'll have better sound than you've ever experience with your CV's but you'll have it even better with the 18" subs.

DJ GaFFle 4:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

Quote:

& you still didn't answer the question

did you peep this jawn-->www.rcf.it

one of those with two 745's will make a nice system

146 lbs is NOT the move...

yea it is heavy….but it's only like 30lbs more than the 8003….& the bass will give you a case of nausea and vomiting

I bet if he got a chance to compare the two, he'd probably change his mind.

Scully DJ Services 4:25 PM - 7 January, 2015

Danley th812

Taipanic 5:38 PM - 7 January, 2015

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The ETX15P.

Noper... not with a ZXA5 unless you have at least 4 of them. Even with 4, I bet you'll still want more low end because the ZXA5's scream, mucho loud.

That 15" sub is convenient and knocks but doesn't beat the 18" subs in lows and overall loudness. With this new setup you're considering, you'll have better sound than you've ever experience with your CV's but you'll have it even better with the 18" subs.

Also, a lot of the 15" sub cabinets are the same size as the 18" sub, if not there is usually only 3-4" difference. The larger sub will usually go 3-4 Hz lower and 1db higher with same power.

Joee 7:08 PM - 7 January, 2015

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I was in GC and it was selling for like 700 bucks....

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The ETX15P.

damn!!!!!!

you better grab them jawns, peep---> www.guitarcenter.com

thats basically two for the price of one

Joee 7:09 PM - 7 January, 2015

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I bet if he got a chance to compare the two, he'd probably change his mind.

you know you right…….he said that he will not be carrying his subs all the time, it just might be worth the extra weight to have that crazy bass

Joee 7:10 PM - 7 January, 2015

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The ETX15P.

That sounds like the ELX115. Either they have it mispriced or mislableled or you mistook it for the ETX. The ETX will have a blue LCD in the rear.

i think you are right!!!!!

Scully DJ Services 8:14 PM - 7 January, 2015

Why screw with EV when you could have a TH812. 500 pounds isnt too bad

Papa Midnight 8:21 PM - 7 January, 2015

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500 pounds isnt too bad

This guy right here.

DJ GaFFle 8:39 PM - 7 January, 2015

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I bet if he got a chance to compare the two, he'd probably change his mind.

you know you right…….he said that he will not be carrying his subs all the time, it just might be worth the extra weight to have that crazy bass

Quote:

The ETX15P.

Noper... not with a ZXA5 unless you have at least 4 of them. Even with 4, I bet you'll still want more low end because the ZXA5's scream, mucho loud.

That 15" sub is convenient and knocks but doesn't beat the 18" subs in lows and overall loudness. With this new setup you're considering, you'll have better sound than you've ever experience with your CV's but you'll have it even better with the 18" subs.

Also, a lot of the 15" sub cabinets are the same size as the 18" sub, if not there is usually only 3-4" difference. The larger sub will usually go 3-4 Hz lower and 1db higher with same power.

Not only the the physical driver being bigger, but the cabinet size is also larger. I bet that 4Hz deeper is more apparent with a side-by-side listening test. I could be wrong as I hear this ETX15P is a beast but I would only imagine the 18" simply sounding that much better to justify the price and size increase. You have a point though on these EV's. The difference is much more apparent with other vendors sub lines when comparing 15's vs. 18's. The EV ETX difference, not so much.

DJ GaFFle 8:46 PM - 7 January, 2015

My thing is if JM goes through with these purchases, we KNOW he'll be running these speakers until 2035 based on his track record. My thought is to buy-once-cry-once. Best bass will be from an 18" sub...

... old age and not wanting to push around a 114 lb sub at age ~85 point him to the 15" sub side.

:-)

Joee 8:54 PM - 7 January, 2015

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.. old age and not wanting to push around a 114 lb sub at age ~85 point him to the 15" sub side.

:-)

he could go with the 81lbs 18" jbl sub, than add the 77 lbs 3 way top cab…..he would need to add some pole mount cups but thats not that big a deal

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:00 PM - 7 January, 2015

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My thing is if JM goes through with these purchases, we KNOW he'll be running these speakers until 2035 based on his track record. My thought is to buy-once-cry-once. Best bass will be from an 18" sub...

... old age and not wanting to push around a 114 lb sub at age ~85 point him to the 15" sub side.

:-)

You are correct with me wanting to buy once, cry once....

But the truth of the matter is that I haven't needed anything more than the Cerwin V35's since 2008 for any events.

So assuming that technology has advanced to the point of getting more boom from a cabinet the same or smaller size (even with separate cabinets), I'm covered.

Anything more, I'd have to enlist extra people who have the equipment and resources to transport them at that time...

desmorider 9:11 PM - 7 January, 2015

Quote:

I bet if he got a chance to compare the two, he'd probably change his mind.

you know you right…….he said that he will not be carrying his subs all the time, it just might be worth the extra weight to have that crazy bass

Quote:

The ETX15P.

Noper... not with a ZXA5 unless you have at least 4 of them. Even with 4, I bet you'll still want more low end because the ZXA5's scream, mucho loud.

That 15" sub is convenient and knocks but doesn't beat the 18" subs in lows and overall loudness. With this new setup you're considering, you'll have better sound than you've ever experience with your CV's but you'll have it even better with the 18" subs.

Also, a lot of the 15" sub cabinets are the same size as the 18" sub, if not there is usually only 3-4" difference. The larger sub will usually go 3-4 Hz lower and 1db higher with same power.

Not only the the physical driver being bigger, but the cabinet size is also larger. I bet that 4Hz deeper is more apparent with a side-by-side listening test. I could be wrong as I hear this ETX15P is a beast but I would only imagine the 18" simply sounding that much better to justify the price and size increase. You have a point though on these EV's. The difference is much more apparent with other vendors sub lines when comparing 15's vs. 18's. The EV ETX difference, not so much.

True dat. Justify the price is a non issue. A dealer quoted me prices and the 18 was only $70 more. If it were me, i would let my balls drop and get the 18's. That way i could never regret not getting them. Gaffle, how much do your danleys weigh? I wish i could slice my eaw dbl 18's in half, slap amp plate on the backs and call it a day.

Joee 9:18 PM - 7 January, 2015

i say you get one sub 8005-as & two art 745-a and call it a day

that is one beast of a system, they had it playing at this years dj expo it was nasty, in a good way……lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:58 PM - 7 January, 2015

Ok, doing some research with my speaker guy...

Told him I'm down to choosing between the RCF-ART745-A and the EV ZXA5.

He said the RCF's are IMPOSSIBLE to get parts for if needed.

They are 2 years behind in parts for repairs....what they apparently do is if you send something in, they'll take a part out of a working speaker for yours.

The EV's have no limiter, but he said that won't be a problem with me because I know what a speaker sounds like when it's driven too high.

For all the recones he's had to do for the EV ZXA5's, the users were simply driving the speaker too loudly, and the cone would separate from the voicecoil. No real "burns" but cats making the speakers "flap" and break apart.

RCF has a 1 Year warranty, but their amps are pieces of junk now from China.

He said one brand I "should" consider is QSC because of their warranty...it's 3 years from the door, and 3 MORE years if you mail in the registration card afterwards.

He does have a brand of speaker at his shop called "LD" from Germany. Said it's the most amazing speaker he's heard in this class. They apparently have a 2 year warranty, they use Faital drivers as well.

Now get this, the Faital distributor is 1 mile from him. The place that makes the LD speaker is 3 miles from him.

Parts galore.

Regardless, he said I can load up my Cerwin V35 and bring it down to his shop, bring whatever amp and musical source I want and can do side by side comparisons with whatever he has.

I'm trying to see if he has a ZXA5 down there, because I'm still hearing that they are the KANG...and that whole RCF parts backup has me kinda worried....

So I'll do that in the next week or so...

So does anyone here actually HAVE the 745-A?

Joee 10:29 PM - 7 January, 2015

let me talk to my rcf guy!

stay tuned!!!!!!!

Joee 10:35 PM - 7 January, 2015

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He said one brand I "should" consider is QSC because of their warranty...it's 3 years from the door, and 3 MORE years if you mail in the registration card afterwards.

if this is his concern….than maybe he doesn't really know his stuff?

the reason i say this is, the yamaha dxr series sound better than the qsc stuff is cheaper & has a 7 year warranty

Joee 10:38 PM - 7 January, 2015

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RCF has a 1 Year warranty, but their amps are pieces of junk now from China.

that here makes me know he know nothing of what he's talking about all my rcf speakers have a 3 year warranty i can screen shot that and show you

Joee 10:53 PM - 7 January, 2015

ok, peep jhonny you will see in red 2+1 they come with a 2 year warranty, if you register you products online they give a extra year

s1285.photobucket.com

disregard the other photos……..lol

Joee 11:03 PM - 7 January, 2015

Quote:

ok, peep jhonny you will see in red 2+1 they come with a 2 year warranty, if you register you products online they give a extra year

s1285.photobucket.com

disregard the other photos……..lol

sorry heres the link--> s1285.photobucket.com

desmorider 11:11 PM - 7 January, 2015

Has your speaker guy ever heard of powrrsoft amplifiers? They are made in italy, not italy. The digimod amps are in the rcf boxes. And yes, i own 745's.

Joee 11:14 PM - 7 January, 2015

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They are made in italy, not italy

huh?

DJ GaFFle 11:17 PM - 7 January, 2015

Quote:

Ok, doing some research with my speaker guy...

Told him I'm down to choosing between the RCF-ART745-A and the EV ZXA5.

He said the RCF's are IMPOSSIBLE to get parts for if needed.

They are 2 years behind in parts for repairs....what they apparently do is if you send something in, they'll take a part out of a working speaker for yours.

The EV's have no limiter, but he said that won't be a problem with me because I know what a speaker sounds like when it's driven too high.

For all the recones he's had to do for the EV ZXA5's, the users were simply driving the speaker too loudly, and the cone would separate from the voicecoil. No real "burns" but cats making the speakers "flap" and break apart.

RCF has a 1 Year warranty, but their amps are pieces of junk now from China.

He said one brand I "should" consider is QSC because of their warranty...it's 3 years from the door, and 3 MORE years if you mail in the registration card afterwards.

He does have a brand of speaker at his shop called "LD" from Germany. Said it's the most amazing speaker he's heard in this class. They apparently have a 2 year warranty, they use Faital drivers as well.

Now get this, the Faital distributor is 1 mile from him. The place that makes the LD speaker is 3 miles from him.

Parts galore.

Regardless, he said I can load up my Cerwin V35 and bring it down to his shop, bring whatever amp and musical source I want and can do side by side comparisons with whatever he has.

I'm trying to see if he has a ZXA5 down there, because I'm still hearing that they are the KANG...and that whole RCF parts backup has me kinda worried....

So I'll do that in the next week or so...

So does anyone here actually HAVE the 745-A?

Sounds like he knows his stuff and has experience on the back end with repairs. You can't go wrong with either one. I wouldn't really go that QSC route. They'll probably be replacing that line pretty soon. They're good boxes and I don't hear of many repairs having to be done on them but you can get better sound and much louder speakers from the stuff we listed.

Joee 11:21 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Sounds like he knows his stuff

did you see my post

desmorider 11:23 PM - 7 January, 2015

"Now get this, the Faital distributor is 1 mile from him. The place that makes the LD speaker is 3 miles from him"

So your speaker repair guy is in germany? That's where ld-systems.com is located.

desmorider 11:29 PM - 7 January, 2015

www.ld-systems.com

www.ldsystems.com is a production company out of houston texas. They do some badass setups, but I don't think they are related to the company in germany.

Joee 11:32 PM - 7 January, 2015

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www.ld-systems.com

www.ldsystems.com is a production company out of houston texas. They do some badass setups, but I don't think they are related to the company in germany.

his guy is 0 for 2

wrong on warranty wrong on ld system

desmorider 11:36 PM - 7 January, 2015

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They are made in italy, not italy

huh?

Haha. Made in italy. Not china. Im too busy trying to get the facts out there bruh. And size 15 ring finger on iphone don't help.

Joee 11:37 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Haha. Made in italy. Not china. Im too busy trying to get the facts out there bruh. And size 15 ring finger on iphone don't help.

Ha hA……..

got you!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:47 AM - 8 January, 2015

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He said one brand I "should" consider is QSC because of their warranty...it's 3 years from the door, and 3 MORE years if you mail in the registration card afterwards.

if this is his concern….than maybe he doesn't really know his stuff?

the reason i say this is, the yamaha dxr series sound better than the qsc stuff is cheaper & has a 7 year warranty

He knows I can't stand Yamaha...

He's mentioned their warranty before...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:52 AM - 8 January, 2015

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ok, peep jhonny you will see in red 2+1 they come with a 2 year warranty, if you register you products online they give a extra year

s1285.photobucket.com

disregard the other photos……..lol

Maybe they changed up their practices. He told me he's returned 100,000 worth of speakers to them because they weren't providing the parts, and doesn't rock with them like that anymore.

Apparently he used to fix stuff for them for 10 years.

PS those other pics are PRICELESS....lmao.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:56 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Has your speaker guy ever heard of powrrsoft amplifiers? They are made in italy, not italy. The digimod amps are in the rcf boxes. And yes, i own 745's.

Maybe it's certain models....I don't know, but I know he's reputable.

Ok, so the 745's versus the ZXA5's, you pick the 745's, correct?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:58 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Ok, doing some research with my speaker guy...

Told him I'm down to choosing between the RCF-ART745-A and the EV ZXA5.

He said the RCF's are IMPOSSIBLE to get parts for if needed.

They are 2 years behind in parts for repairs....what they apparently do is if you send something in, they'll take a part out of a working speaker for yours.

The EV's have no limiter, but he said that won't be a problem with me because I know what a speaker sounds like when it's driven too high.

For all the recones he's had to do for the EV ZXA5's, the users were simply driving the speaker too loudly, and the cone would separate from the voicecoil. No real "burns" but cats making the speakers "flap" and break apart.

RCF has a 1 Year warranty, but their amps are pieces of junk now from China.

He said one brand I "should" consider is QSC because of their warranty...it's 3 years from the door, and 3 MORE years if you mail in the registration card afterwards.

He does have a brand of speaker at his shop called "LD" from Germany. Said it's the most amazing speaker he's heard in this class. They apparently have a 2 year warranty, they use Faital drivers as well.

Now get this, the Faital distributor is 1 mile from him. The place that makes the LD speaker is 3 miles from him.

Parts galore.

Regardless, he said I can load up my Cerwin V35 and bring it down to his shop, bring whatever amp and musical source I want and can do side by side comparisons with whatever he has.

I'm trying to see if he has a ZXA5 down there, because I'm still hearing that they are the KANG...and that whole RCF parts backup has me kinda worried....

So I'll do that in the next week or so...

So does anyone here actually HAVE the 745-A?

Sounds like he knows his stuff and has experience on the back end with repairs. You can't go wrong with either one. I wouldn't really go that QSC route. They'll probably be replacing that line pretty soon. They're good boxes and I don't hear of many repairs having to be done on them but you can get better sound and much louder speakers from the stuff we listed.

Yeah, he was just giving me his opinion....I don't hear cats jumping up and down about JBL...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:02 AM - 8 January, 2015

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"Now get this, the Faital distributor is 1 mile from him. The place that makes the LD speaker is 3 miles from him"

So your speaker repair guy is in germany? That's where ld-systems.com is located.

C'mon man, you know I'm in Jersey. I'm sure it's a plant or US distributor or something near him..

I specifically said -

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He does have a brand of speaker at his shop called "LD" from Germany.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:04 AM - 8 January, 2015

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www.ld-systems.com

www.ldsystems.com is a production company out of houston texas. They do some badass setups, but I don't think they are related to the company in germany.

his guy is 0 for 2

wrong on warranty wrong on ld system

Man, y'all buggin...

LMAO @ you forgetting I live in NJ...

So there aren't any distributors or plants for these speakers here in the US?

Joee 1:05 AM - 8 January, 2015

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.I don't hear cats jumping up and down about JBL..

jbl's are made in mexico now

Joee 1:16 AM - 8 January, 2015

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So there aren't any distributors or plants for these speakers here in the US?

RCF is in ……..NEW JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:16 AM - 8 January, 2015

Hey, the dude used to recone my JBL's when I didn't know any better...

I bought my Sonic W-Bins from him loaded with RCF's, and NEVER had a problem, and could run those with 1500 Watts RMS into 8 ohms...PER BIN...NO PROBLEM...

He's fixed and refurbished amps and the whole nine for me, so his credentials speak for themselves...

Like I said, he's got a bunch of this LD stuff down there, so I'll load up what I have and have a listen....

Now back to today's news...

I went back to GC and sure enough, I was mistaken about the price of the ETX-15P. It's 1299.99. the bottom speaker was 799.00...

Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:16 AM - 8 January, 2015

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So there aren't any distributors or plants for these speakers here in the US?

RCF is in ……..NEW JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!

I was talking about the LD's man...

Joee 1:20 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:20 AM - 8 January, 2015

lol, what y'all do to Pdidy?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:21 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? That jawn was LOOOUUDDD...and you're saying the ZXA5 is LOUDER than that?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 AM - 8 January, 2015

So spec for spec, what's the difference? The fact that it has limiters and such?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:26 AM - 8 January, 2015

Ok, I see the ZXA5 is rocking with a 2" driver vs. the ETX's 1.5" for starters...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:26 AM - 8 January, 2015

Excuse me...that's 1.25"....

pdidy 1:34 AM - 8 January, 2015

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lol, what y'all do to Pdidy?

Was on a short vacation with no laptop and i hate replying to threads such as this with just my phone.

Joee 1:34 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Seriously? That jawn was LOOOUUDDD...and you're saying the ZXA5 is LOUDER than that?

YEEESSS!!!

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lol, what y'all do to Pdidy?

i think he's busy with one of the big booty jawns

Joee 1:35 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Was on a short vacation with no laptop and i hate replying to threads such as this with just my phone.

i TOLD you!!!!!!!! is there anyone with you on this vacation?…….lol

Joee 1:37 AM - 8 January, 2015

FYI johnny i got a price of well under $3,000 for the 21" rcf sub

desmorider 1:55 AM - 8 January, 2015

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So there aren't any distributors or plants for these speakers here in the US?

RCF is in ……..NEW JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!

I was talking about the LD's man...

Hey Man,
Since your speaker guy is an ld-systems dealer, please get me a price on an ld-systems ddq-sub18. I like that jawn---shortay. Since your man is down with the LD shit, I say buy that and be the first one on here with that. Might be the new hotness in the states. Do it big and you could be their USA spokesman and rep, Like KOOOOOL-JOE-EE is down with RCF. Get a pic of your setup all on their website and shit.

On the real, please get me that price...

desmorider 2:00 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Has your speaker guy ever heard of powrrsoft amplifiers? They are made in italy, not italy. The digimod amps are in the rcf boxes. And yes, i own 745's.

Maybe it's certain models....I don't know, but I know he's reputable.

Ok, so the 745's versus the ZXA5's, you pick the 745's, correct?

y

The zxa5 and the 745 were the final two speakers I chose from. I went with the 745's.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:35 AM - 8 January, 2015

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So there aren't any distributors or plants for these speakers here in the US?

RCF is in ……..NEW JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!

I was talking about the LD's man...

Hey Man,
Since your speaker guy is an ld-systems dealer, please get me a price on an ld-systems ddq-sub18. I like that jawn---shortay. Since your man is down with the LD shit, I say buy that and be the first one on here with that. Might be the new hotness in the states. Do it big and you could be their USA spokesman and rep, Like KOOOOOL-JOE-EE is down with RCF. Get a pic of your setup all on their website and shit.

On the real, please get me that price...

LMAO...

I'll see what I can do.

If you wanna holla at him yourself, I can PM you his number and whatnot...]

That way you can determine if he's on the up and up by YOUR standards...

Nah mean?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Has your speaker guy ever heard of powrrsoft amplifiers? They are made in italy, not italy. The digimod amps are in the rcf boxes. And yes, i own 745's.

Maybe it's certain models....I don't know, but I know he's reputable.

Ok, so the 745's versus the ZXA5's, you pick the 745's, correct?

y

The zxa5 and the 745 were the final two speakers I chose from. I went with the 745's.

So you're the ONLY one who has the 745 here, but the rest of the crew is down with the ZXA5's...

lol @ you trying to get me to take the LD plunge....

I'm leaning towards the ZXA5, because Joee said it's LOOOUUUUDDDDER than what I heard with my own ears at GC via the ETX-15P.

That almost seems inconceivable....but I have had cats holla at me behind the scenes SWEARING by the ZXA5...and they know their *ish as well...

desmorider 2:42 AM - 8 January, 2015

Hit me up. I will call him tomorrow. Thanks. I've been looking at the ld sub for a month or so, and just want to get more info on it. I emailed the company in Germany, and they never responded. Maybe he can hook me up with the info im looking for.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:47 AM - 8 January, 2015

OH, I forgot to tell y'all..

lol...True Story...

So I go into GC the first time and show the guy what I have now - > www.djjohnnym.com

Cerwin Vega V35...

First thing out of his mind was like WHYYYY would you get rid of those? They KNOCK...lol...says his father had a pair and for what you bought them for vs what they could do, they were some of the best portable speakers out there...

But you know, I"m thinking...Alright maybe he's being nostalgic about his father, growing up, etc..etc...

So TODAY I go back to GC, and there's a DIFFERENT GUY, and I show him what I have, and HE ALSO was like, "That particular Cerwin Model right there was the *ish", you could do EVERY kind of event with those...

Just roll them in, and plug in and go...Massive Sound...

I've never dealt with Cerwin Vega after acquiring those speakers, because there was no need to upgrade, or get anything fixed....so I assume when the company got bought out or changed plants or whatever, that the quality hit the bottom....

Trust and believe, these speakers could do 250-300 people with nuff bass and highs or errybody....

desmorider 2:49 AM - 8 January, 2015

Theirs a couple of other guys on here with the 745's. The zxa5 is noooooo joke, it gets a lot louder then the etx15p. You can't go wrong with either choice you make here. If your interested in some 3 way boxes that are small in stature, but a little heavy, but sound nice, take a listen these.

www.presonus.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:52 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Hit me up. I will call him tomorrow. Thanks. I've been looking at the ld sub for a month or so, and just want to get more info on it. I emailed the company in Germany, and they never responded. Maybe he can hook me up with the info im looking for.

You have mail...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:53 AM - 8 January, 2015

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. The zxa5 is noooooo joke, it gets a lot louder then the etx15p.

Then there we go....That's hard to imagine, but EVERYBODY raves about the sound....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:54 AM - 8 January, 2015

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lol, what y'all do to Pdidy?

Was on a short vacation with no laptop and i hate replying to threads such as this with just my phone.

Werd, welcome back mayne...

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 2:55 AM - 8 January, 2015

I'm pulling the trigger on the 745s tomorrow. After a lot of research and help from Joee it seems like a no brainer. ZXA5s seem awesome but since I never go without at least 1 sub, and I dont want to worry about a driverack, I think the 745s will be more than enough for me in most applications.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:56 AM - 8 January, 2015

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FYI johnny i got a price of well under $3,000 for the 21" rcf sub

I'm not paying 3K for a single sub mayne...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:57 AM - 8 January, 2015

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I'm pulling the trigger on the 745s tomorrow. After a lot of research and help from Joee it seems like a no brainer. ZXA5s seem awesome but since I never go without at least 1 sub, and I dont want to worry about a driverack, I think the 745s will be more than enough for me in most applications.

Sounds like a solid purchase to me.....

This is so funny, because this is all because I want to get a different car....lol.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:58 AM - 8 January, 2015

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www.presonus.com

Good lawd...

the_black_one 3:19 AM - 8 January, 2015

All I have to say is that I have both .. the EV and the RCF and with the driverack the EV sounds better and louder than the RCF. The EV looks better and the brand recognition help with clients. The limiters on the RCF are aggressive and catch too quick in my opinion. The finish and construction of the EV is greater than in the RCF. The amp on the EV is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better designed and cooled. EV wins hands down. It's not all about SPL.

NM NH

desmorider 3:25 AM - 8 January, 2015

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All I have to say is that I have both .. the EV and the RCF and with the driverack the EV sounds better and louder than the RCF. The EV looks better and the brand recognition help with clients. The limiters on the RCF are aggressive and catch too quick in my opinion. The finish and construction of the EV is greater than in the RCF. The amp on the EV is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better designed and cooled. EV wins hands down. It's not all about SPL.

NM NH

you have the 745's, and the zxa5?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:31 AM - 8 January, 2015

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NM NH

Really?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:34 AM - 8 January, 2015

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The EV looks better and the brand recognition help with clients.

EV vs RCF (EAW) brands are both synonymous with quality....

or were...

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 3:56 AM - 8 January, 2015

Funny that you mention brand recognition. I was just talking to the wife about how none of our clients ever ask about what kind of equipment we have. Which is crazy to me. Then some of them wonder why some DJs charge $500 for a reception. Cause they ain't spending $2800 for a pair of tops.

pdidy 5:04 AM - 8 January, 2015

Just so there's full disclose here with no misunderstanding........

Due to the fact that you floor mount your Cerwin V35 @ Full Range there will a 6db increase in bass response which can not matched by any top discussed here because they are all pole mounted and therefore the bass will not couple with the floor and get the FREE 6db in bass response. This has to be an expected trade off before you continue.

The ETX-35P would be the exception to the rule because of its height you could floor mount and get the additional 6db in bass as you do with your Cerwin V35.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:12 AM - 8 January, 2015

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Just so there's full disclose here with no misunderstanding........

Due to the fact that you floor mount your Cerwin V35 @ Full Range there will a 6db increase in bass response which can not matched by any top discussed here because they are all pole mounted and therefore the bass will not couple with the floor and get the FREE 6db in bass response. This has to be an expected trade off before you continue.

The ETX-35P would be the exception to the rule because of its height you could floor mount and get the additional 6db in bass as you do with your Cerwin V35.

Duly noted....

I expect to add a sub for events where I would have been using the Cerwin @ full tilt....aka a Wedding Reception for instance....Most want me to bring a "Club" atmosphere to their events....

Please proceed...

the_black_one 5:28 AM - 8 January, 2015

3 db increase per low frequency cabinet on the floor so as diddy mentioned you have two so that's where you are getting the 6db boost. The disadvantage if the hi end frequency driver sits low and not high above peoples head. Sticking the top cabinets on sticks gives you better high frequency dispersion. Having a sub really will solve many of your issues. putting drivers where they are most optimal for better performance. I can go on and on about speaker placement.

pdidy 6:19 AM - 8 January, 2015

the 6db increase is each sub not the combination of 2 or more.

for example my vrx918sp subs are measure in full space (in the air) at 126db because they are designed to be flown unlike any of the other subs here. Once the sub is on the floor it couples an get a 6db increase so now EACH sub is 132db.

Being that most subs are measured in half space there's no need for this calculation.

full space = 0 boundary = in air = 0db increase
half space = 1 boundary = on floor = 6db increase
quarter space = 2 boundaries = floor & wall = 12db increase

Joee 12:58 PM - 8 January, 2015

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I'm not paying 3K for a single sub mayne...

i said well under……..WELL UNDER 3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The amp on the EV is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better designed and cooled. EV wins hands down. It's not all about SPL.

i need to get my hands on some 745 the one thing i don't like about the zxa5 is they get pretty warm even with the fan running full blast…….none of my rcf stuff has gotten as hot as the zxa5………….

in short all active ev speakers I've owned have got pretty warm to the touch when you feel the amp plate……..all rcf speakers not so much, I've done block partys in the summer heat with fd12's they stayed cool to the touch & they don't even use fans, that tells me the have some seriously efficient amps

been a long time since you posted anything, did this thread bring you back?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 PM - 8 January, 2015

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the 6db increase is each sub not the combination of 2 or more.

for example my vrx918sp subs are measure in full space (in the air) at 126db because they are designed to be flown unlike any of the other subs here. Once the sub is on the floor it couples an get a 6db increase so now EACH sub is 132db.

Being that most subs are measured in half space there's no need for this calculation.

full space = 0 boundary = in air = 0db increase
half space = 1 boundary = on floor = 6db increase
quarter space = 2 boundaries = floor & wall = 12db increase

Good info...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:23 PM - 8 January, 2015

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i need to get my hands on some 745

I would have thought you had some by now....Mr. RCF.... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:24 PM - 8 January, 2015

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been a long time since you posted anything, did this thread bring you back?

Don't fall for it....

Joee 1:27 PM - 8 January, 2015

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I would have thought you had some by now....Mr. RCF.... :-)

i want them but don't need the ……yet

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Don't fall for it....

lol…….

DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:35 PM - 8 January, 2015

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i want them but don't need the ……yet

Since when has that stopped you?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:35 PM - 8 January, 2015

Pdidy, the fellas have pretty much given me great info to make some moves...

My requirement was to downsize my vehicle, which meant that I wouldn't be able to move the Cerwin standing up @ 36" like that anymore, so I need to downsize my speaker setup to accommodate an SUV sized ride.

The task was to get rid of the Cerwins and replace them with speakers that accomplish a few things...

1. Give me a small powered speaker option (V35's were all I used), so I could do small last minute events - snatch and go, no external amp needed, but with BIG sound, not NECESSARILY equivalent to the bass of the Cerwins, but the best in their class as far as loudness and bass are concerned.

2. When I need the sound level to be AT LEAST the db of the Cerwins, add 2 powered subs to the cabinets mentioned above, so the combination would be equal or better than the Cerwin solution I currently have.

It's looking like the EV's are winning, but I do want to ask you...

How did YOU blow YOUR ZXA5's?

That part baffles me...I understand there's no limiting and all that, and my speaker guy says all the ZXA5 repairs that he's done were because cats drove them too high, broke up the cone, not necessarily burning the voice coil.

I know how Joee blew his :-), but I KNOW you know your sound, and I know you know what type of sound I'm looking for, (Tri-State stand up), so what do you think happened?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:36 PM - 8 January, 2015

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i want them but don't need the ……yet

Since when has that stopped you?

THIS.....

DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:41 PM - 8 January, 2015

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i want them but don't need the ……yet

Since when has that stopped you?

THIS.....

I'm just saying why would he not need the "beast" of the RCF line? He has everything else.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:45 PM - 8 January, 2015

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i want them but don't need the ……yet

Since when has that stopped you?

THIS.....

I'm just saying why would he not need the "beast" of the RCF line? He has everything else.

You ain't neva lied...

Joee 1:45 PM - 8 January, 2015

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Since when has that stopped you?

lol…..

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I know how Joee blew his :-), but I KNOW you know your sound, and I know you know what type of sound I'm looking for, (Tri-State stand up), so what do you think happened?

stop playin

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How did YOU blow YOUR ZXA5's?

the answer to the question is

letting someone else play on them that does not know what there doing & how to use there ears, I've never had issues playing on my zxa5 neither did pdidy

when did our speaker blow when someone else was on the controls, i don't think that you will have any issues

Joee 1:48 PM - 8 January, 2015

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I'm just saying why would he not need the "beast" of the RCF line? He has everything else

like i said i want them……in due time i have to sell my fd12 and get a pair of hd32 first than one more evox 8 than two more 905-as subs than finally the 745-a

after that i'm done…..for real

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:25 PM - 8 January, 2015

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How did YOU blow YOUR ZXA5's?

the answer to the question is

letting someone else play on them that does not know what there doing & how to use there ears, I've never had issues playing on my zxa5 neither did pdidy

Joee, I already SAID I "knew" how yours got blown...

I wasn't sure about how Pdidy's got blown...

desmorider 2:28 PM - 8 January, 2015

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All I have to say is that I have both .. the EV and the RCF and with the driverack the EV sounds better and louder than the RCF. The EV looks better and the brand recognition help with clients. The limiters on the RCF are aggressive and catch too quick in my opinion. The finish and construction of the EV is greater than in the RCF. The amp on the EV is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better designed and cooled. EV wins hands down. It's not all about SPL.

NM NH

HaHa. OK. First the EV sounds better(4in high freq) and gets louder. Then it ends with it's not all about SPL. DJJonnym the 745's also only get warm to the touch. However I haven't down any outside gigs in the summer heat yet. What does NM NH mean?

desmorider 2:32 PM - 8 January, 2015

Like I said, Ldsystems DJJonnym. Do it big and you could be their USA spokesman and rep, Like KOOOOOL-JOE-EE is down with RCF

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 PM - 8 January, 2015

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What does NM NH mean?

When he says it....absolutely nothing...

Pay it no mind, this is a thread derailment attempt....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:43 PM - 8 January, 2015

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HaHa. OK. First the EV sounds better(4in high freq) and gets louder. Then it ends with it's not all about SPL.

And not adding up the dbs' correctly...

There is a reason why this thread was named the way it was....

I should have added Gaffle and a few others, but other cats just be Makin Sh*t Up...

Don't drink the milk....

It's spoiled...

DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:11 PM - 8 January, 2015

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HaHa. OK. First the EV sounds better(4in high freq) and gets louder. Then it ends with it's not all about SPL.

And not adding up the dbs' correctly...

There is a reason why this thread was named the way it was....

I should have added Gaffle and a few others, but other cats just be Makin Sh*t Up...

Don't drink the milk....

It's spoiled...

Eggzacktly

Taipanic 3:13 PM - 8 January, 2015

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How did YOU blow YOUR ZXA5's?

That part baffles me...I understand there's no limiting and all that, and my speaker guy says all the ZXA5 repairs that he's done were because cats drove them too high, broke up the cone, not necessarily burning the voice coil.

I know how Joee blew his :-), but I KNOW you know your sound, and I know you know what type of sound I'm looking for, (Tri-State stand up), so what do you think happened?

FYI, I had one of mine blown a few months ago. Other DJ thought he was turning level down (on back of EV) but actually turned it from -12 to +3 while playing bass heavy trap music in a club. Destroyed the cone, did not damage the voice coil. There was no visual damage to the cone. Also note that I bought mine used so I don't know the full history of how my cabs were treated. $200 for the recone.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:37 PM - 8 January, 2015

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FYI, I had one of mine blown a few months ago. Other DJ thought he was turning level down (on back of EV) but actually turned it from -12 to +3 while playing bass heavy trap music in a club. Destroyed the cone, did not damage the voice coil. There was no visual damage to the cone. Also note that I bought mine used so I don't know the full history of how my cabs were treated. $200 for the recone.

Ok, case of "Another DJ"....

You are excused.... :-).

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:39 PM - 8 January, 2015

I thought I read of someone who had their stuff blown, but everything was at 12 o'clock, no yellows, no reds, but somehow got blown....

I think the end suspicion was user error somehow, or that the cause was undetermined...

Warranty replacement perhaps?

the_black_one 4:07 PM - 8 January, 2015

at 3:50 Watch www.youtube.com

have read www.prosoundweb.com

it's a 3 db boost not a 6db boost

desmorider 4:24 PM - 8 January, 2015

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I thought I read of someone who had their stuff blown, but everything was at 12 o'clock, no yellows, no reds, but somehow got blown....

I think the end suspicion was user error somehow, or that the cause was undetermined...

Warranty replacement perhaps?

This might be the dude that your talking about. I think his shit went sideways first time gigging out with them. I felt bad for him, after spending all that grip. Looks like it might have been a factory problem (bad batch of something). Warranty took care of him.

D. J. Shawn Quick7:03 PM - 5 January, 2015
Picked up my EV ZXA5's out of repair today the tech told me the voice coils were not burnt but new. The wire leading to both coils on both speakers were loose/broken if he pushed the woofer it would make contact & play? Warranty repaired for free.

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 4:32 PM - 8 January, 2015

Is it safe to say at this point that you can't go wrong with either the 745 or the ZXA5? They will both work in most applications and will give clear sound at loud volumes...say up to 300 guests when used with a couple of subs. Personally without a driverack, this extra LOOOOOUDness that everyone mentions with a ZXA5 would be something I wouldn't risk in fear blowing the speaker. In that case it would seem that the extra LOOOOOOUD you get from the ZXA5 is being found kind of at a "at your own risk" type thing. Just an opinion based off everything I've read and not on my minimal technical knowledge when it comes to speakers.

I won't lie though, I'm set on the 745 but with all this zxa5 talk that keeps popping up it's really making it a tough decision on which of the 2.

Joee 4:36 PM - 8 January, 2015

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Is it safe to say at this point that you can't go wrong with either the 745 or the ZXA5?

i'd say yes

most dj's will never need the volume levels the zxa5 can produce

DJ GaFFle 5:16 PM - 8 January, 2015

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HaHa. OK. First the EV sounds better(4in high freq) and gets louder. Then it ends with it's not all about SPL.

And not adding up the dbs' correctly...

There is a reason why this thread was named the way it was....

I should have added Gaffle and a few others, but other cats just be Makin Sh*t Up...

Don't drink the milk....

It's spoiled...

The Little Rascals... I grew up loving that show.

the_black_one 5:22 PM - 8 January, 2015

3 db boost ... not 6 db boost. The man was wrong

DJ GaFFle 5:24 PM - 8 January, 2015

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I thought I read of someone who had their stuff blown, but everything was at 12 o'clock, no yellows, no reds, but somehow got blown....

I think the end suspicion was user error somehow, or that the cause was undetermined...

Warranty replacement perhaps?

This might be the dude that your talking about. I think his shit went sideways first time gigging out with them. I felt bad for him, after spending all that grip. Looks like it might have been a factory problem (bad batch of something). Warranty took care of him...

Which is partly why I won't recommend them anymore w/o giving the lack-o-limiter disclaimer.

southernplayalisticaddilacmuzik 5:43 PM - 8 January, 2015

I love the ZXA5 but have to go with the 745 again. It’s the 4” voice coil that blows the competition away. The throw and the clarity you get from the high freq driver on these is ridiculous! If the ZXA5 was significantly cheaper than the 745 then there would be a stronger case for it but the fact is landed pricing is about the same between the two.

^^^^What a rep I've been working who seems to know his shit said. This was what had my mind made up on the 745.

DJ GaFFle 5:45 PM - 8 January, 2015

I think the ZXA5's been out since 2008.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:46 PM - 8 January, 2015

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Don't drink the milk....

It's spoiled...

The Little Rascals... I grew up loving that show.

You already know...

And besides, how can you take the word of someone who can't keep something CONSISTENT, like their own identity....

I take into consideration the opinion of reputable folks.... ;-)

pdidy 10:30 PM - 8 January, 2015

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How did YOU blow YOUR ZXA5's?

Well you've come to the right person, Im pretty much an expert on how to blow a zxa5.

1. while using the zxa5 as a floor wedge dj monitor a dj jammed his coat behind it cutting off all air flow. (Amp blew)

2. Client failed to provide tents in 100+ degree direct sun light, my contract covered me for damages so I continued. (Amp blew)

3. A dj had all masters an gains within serato maxed out, solid red on all meter and heavily distorted at loud volume. He fried both horn an woofer in less than 5-10 min. I failed to check his setting before letting him on therefore it was my fault.

4. A dj playing on a vci300 connected directly to a zxa5 at a small event. This is a very bad idea when playing along with djs that dont know how to stay out of the red because the vci300 has very low output and a line mixer is REQUIRED for high volume. I warned the dj multiple times about staying out of red but he refused to listen stating " I know what im doin I been djing for years my dude, just chill out I got this". ....lol I didnt want to fuck up the party so I arranged payment with the promoter. The dj fried the horn first then woofer about 30 min prior to party end time and didnt get paid.

I would expect most speaker to blow under these conditions, the ONE exception being the QSC k/kw series which Ive personally witnessed take insane amounts of abuse on many occasions and continue to operate perfectly.

pdidy 11:24 PM - 8 January, 2015

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my recommendation for being portable sounding good & not being super expensive

18" sub $1,500
www.jblpro.com

12" top $900
www.rcf.it

All things considered, Joee has already picked my recommendation.

In regards to the rcf 745 vs zxa5, I would pick the 745 for ONE reason. Ease of use aka no driverack required.

When I was debating on what small sub to buy the jbl vrx918sp filled all of my requirements. 2 of these along with any top you choose will easily out preform the CV.

The ONLY problem I foresee is once you hear them the sound quality will awaken the
"BASS junkie crack head" within you and convince you that you absolutely NEED 4 of them get your fix. 2 are loud enough but the sound is freakin addictive.

pdidy 11:45 PM - 8 January, 2015

All this easily fits in a minivan and is light enough to move by yourself if you are a one man show.
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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:45 AM - 9 January, 2015

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In regards to the rcf 745 vs zxa5, I would pick the 745 for ONE reason. Ease of use aka no driverack required.

Werd...

So, do you recommend a DriveRack if the ZXA5 is bought? I'm told it actually fine tunes the sound....

pdidy 1:28 AM - 9 January, 2015

i WOULD SAY A driverack is required for the zxa5 for PROTECTION if you play at hi volumes but yes it does great on the sound also. But a zxa5 sounds great out the box plug & play.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:39 AM - 9 January, 2015

Ok, thank you to all who have contributed...

Oh, and keeping with the theme of full disclosure, I'm not getting these TOMORROW...

Uncle Sam will be giving me back my taxes around mid Feb, so then I can pull the trigger...

Stay tuned...

pdidy 1:40 AM - 9 January, 2015

If you decide to go drive rack the one that you want is the driverack PA2

The remote features simplifies it to the point that even a novice can use it from day one no more high learning curve or complicated programming.

Joee 1:43 AM - 9 January, 2015

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All things considered, Joee has already picked my recommendation.

great minds think alike ;)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:44 AM - 9 January, 2015

Hmmm....I was trying to eliminate the rack and upgrade the outboard mixer....DriveRack means a processor rack/case and of course paying for a DriveRack on top of everything else...

Decisions, decisions....but two clear paths...

Thanks again fellas!

pdidy 2:51 AM - 9 January, 2015

@ 1:58 I use a 2U DriveRack case which doubles as a Mic receiver. It also contains a wireless router for remote control of the driverack and playing music thru ipad wireless.
Watch www.youtube.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:04 AM - 9 January, 2015

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@ 1:58 I use a 2U DriveRack case which doubles as a Mic receiver. It also contains a wireless router for remote control of the driverack and playing music thru ipad wireless.
Watch www.youtube.com

Dope....

pdidy 3:19 AM - 9 January, 2015

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@ 1:58 I use a 2U DriveRack case which doubles as a Mic receiver. It also contains a wireless router for remote control of the driverack and playing music thru ipad wireless.
Watch www.youtube.com

Dope....

thanks

Taipanic 3:32 AM - 9 January, 2015

I also agree about the Driverack PA2 but keep in mind if you are not running them full tilt (which you almost never will be) you can play without it. That gives you the option of saving up for the PA2 over a few extra months.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 5:01 AM - 9 January, 2015

I don't have any of the speakers but, I'm speaking from conventional wisdom. The EV while clearly still a monster is old technology now. EV has rebooted their product line to include new amps, limiters, & controllable DSP in all of their powered speakers. If I was going to drop serious dough for a new set up, I would be buying the new technology not old.

The RCF 745 sounds serious...but you have not heard it. You don't know what that bass output is without a sub.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:19 PM - 9 January, 2015

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I don't have any of the speakers but, I'm speaking from conventional wisdom. The EV while clearly still a monster is old technology now. EV has rebooted their product line to include new amps, limiters, & controllable DSP in all of their powered speakers. If I was going to drop serious dough for a new set up, I would be buying the new technology not old.

The RCF 745 sounds serious...but you have not heard it. You don't know what that bass output is without a sub.

Strange, I thought you had the EV's as well.

However, You make a GREAT POINT as far as new technology is concerned, and that should not be ignored, because.... well....it's new technology.

I REALLY want to hear the ZXA5, because I can't imagine how much louder it is than the ETX-15P, but the guys swear it's MUUUCCCHHHH LOOOUUDDERRR...

I just can't comprehend that much sound coming from a box that size. Again I believe them, it's just hard to imagine...

So thanks DJ Val, lmao....now I need to ask everyone... -

So what is the Motherload EV branded speaker (inclusive of new technology), that rivals the ZXA5? I already know the RCF does, but that EV 18SP is growling, so I'd like to try and match that with an incredible top.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:23 PM - 9 January, 2015

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Hit me up. I will call him tomorrow. Thanks. I've been looking at the ld sub for a month or so, and just want to get more info on it. I emailed the company in Germany, and they never responded. Maybe he can hook me up with the info im looking for.

You have mail...

Hey Desmorider,

What kind of info did the speaker guy give you?

Did he seem like he knew his *ish?

Joee 12:59 PM - 9 January, 2015

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my recommendation for being portable sounding good & not being super expensive

18" sub $1,500
www.jblpro.com

12" top $900
www.rcf.it

if i was you jm

i would still consider this system i know you said you will not be carrying a sub all the time, but think about it the sub is small compact & a little over 80lbs….you could carry at least one to each gig?

FYI

a forum member did a comparison between the etx18sp & the vrx918sp, he said the jbl sounded better

Quote:

So what is the Motherload EV branded speaker (inclusive of new technology), that rivals the ZXA5? I already know the RCF does, but that EV 18SP is growling, so I'd like to try and match that with an incredible top.

you like the etx stuff? than why not just get that 2 18" & 2 15" than call it a day?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:31 PM - 9 January, 2015

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you like the etx stuff? than why not just get that 2 18" & 2 15" than call it a day?

I don't want to limit myself yet as I haven't heard everything.

What 15" are you talking about? The EXT-15P?

I thought you said the ZXA5 is way LOOOUUUDDDERRRR....

Is there an EV that's LOOUUUDER than the EXT-15P but not the ZXA5, or is that it?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:35 PM - 9 January, 2015

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if i was you jm

i would still consider this system i know you said you will not be carrying a sub all the time, but think about it the sub is small compact & a little over 80lbs….you could carry at least one to each gig?

Nope, want a 15 inch top at minimum. The RCF or ZXA5 fills that bill.

I plan to increase the number of gigs that only require 2 tops.

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a forum member did a comparison between the etx18sp & the vrx918sp, he said the jbl sounded better

And I see Pdidy uses them....

You know what?

Pdidy, I may have to come visit you sir....

desmorider 2:27 PM - 9 January, 2015

This is what i recommend. You seem to love the sound of the etx-18sp, and you were impressed by the sound coming out of the 15p top. With the 15p/18sp combo you get the best of both worlds. Great looking/sounding speakers, ev quality, high tech dsp/protection. No other speaker in e/v's lineup can go blow for blow with the zxa5 as far as spl is concerned at that price point. The speaker is run without protection, which allows it to achieve its last couple db's on the top end. If your careful then your fine, if you abuse, or you let an abuser on the set and step away for a minute, they might pop. It's like meeting that hot chick at the club and taking her home for a raw dog session, kind of risky. Just a disclaimer, i've never been brave enough to try that shit.

DJ GaFFle 2:32 PM - 9 January, 2015

There is no in-between with the ETX15P and the ZXA5 within the EV line of powered speakers. The only way you can sound better and have more bass than the ZXA5, would be to get an ETX35P but its height and weight go against your requirements.

It's also already been mentioned that once you get ZXA5's, you'll easily outrun most any GC-sold powered sub with a few exceptions (eg: Yorkville LS2100P, RCF8005); they get heLLa loud. You're always in control and can gain them down no matter which subs you buy. This usually doesn't work with ZXA5 owners though... we always end up asking about more or louder subs to keep up with the tops. Like DJ Val mentioned, the ZXA5's are older technology but they are still top-tier stuff. They use to be over $2k each back in ~'08 when they first came out. Nobody's general 2-way top came close to keeping up to them for a bit. You seem like you're leaning that way as oppose to the RCF745A, which I consider a strong rival based on specs and "one" comparative review.

desmorider 2:35 PM - 9 January, 2015

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Hit me up. I will call him tomorrow. Thanks. I've been looking at the ld sub for a month or so, and just want to get more info on it. I emailed the company in Germany, and they never responded. Maybe he can hook me up with the info im looking for.

You have mail...

Hey Desmorider,

What kind of info did the speaker guy give you?

Did he seem like he knew his *ish?

Dude was legit. He said that the Ld-system subs i was asking about were not in the usa yet. They will be at NAMM. We chopped it up on the phone for a few minutes. Good peeps there.

Taipanic 2:46 PM - 9 January, 2015

If I were buying a complete new system right now I would go with the EV ETX 15 tops and ETX18 subs. Brand name, easily serviced, good looking, good DSP, and will get loud enough for 98% of events. Running a pair of ZXa5s at full tilt will require 4-6 powerful subs to balance the sound out. If you're doing mostly gigs under 250 people the ZXa5s are overkill.
The ZXa5s are the real deal but I really think you'd be better serviced with the ETX line unless you are doing a lot of outdoor high volume gigs.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:58 PM - 9 January, 2015

Quote:

I don't have any of the speakers but, I'm speaking from conventional wisdom. The EV while clearly still a monster is old technology now. EV has rebooted their product line to include new amps, limiters, & controllable DSP in all of their powered speakers. If I was going to drop serious dough for a new set up, I would be buying the new technology not old.

The RCF 745 sounds serious...but you have not heard it. You don't know what that bass output is without a sub.

Strange, I thought you had the EV's as well.

However, You make a GREAT POINT as far as new technology is concerned, and that should not be ignored, because.... well....it's new technology.

I REALLY want to hear the ZXA5, because I can't imagine how much louder it is than the ETX-15P, but the guys swear it's MUUUCCCHHHH LOOOUUDDERRR...

I just can't comprehend that much sound coming from a box that size. Again I believe them, it's just hard to imagine...

So thanks DJ Val, lmao....now I need to ask everyone... -

So what is the Motherload EV branded speaker (inclusive of new technology), that rivals the ZXA5? I already know the RCF does, but that EV 18SP is growling, so I'd like to try and match that with an incredible top.

I have the EV ELX115 and I love them. If I were to do it buy again I'd get the ETX-15.

You also have to think that if you need your stand alones to scream that loud...you might not have enough speakers.

Joee 4:06 PM - 9 January, 2015

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If I were buying a complete new system right now I would go with the EV ETX 15 tops and ETX18 subs

i think this is his best option being that he herd them and was pretty pleased with the performance

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:26 PM - 9 January, 2015

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There is no in-between with the ETX15P and the ZXA5 within the EV line of powered speakers.

This is what I need to know....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:29 PM - 9 January, 2015

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This is what i recommend. You seem to love the sound of the etx-18sp, and you were impressed by the sound coming out of the 15p top. With the 15p/18sp combo you get the best of both worlds. Great looking/sounding speakers, ev quality, high tech dsp/protection. No other speaker in e/v's lineup can go blow for blow with the zxa5 as far as spl is concerned at that price point. The speaker is run without protection, which allows it to achieve its last couple db's on the top end. If your careful then your fine, if you abuse, or you let an abuser on the set and step away for a minute, they might pop.

You are making a great case here...

Quote:

It's like meeting that hot chick at the club and taking her home for a raw dog session, kind of risky. Just a disclaimer, i've never been brave enough to try that shit.

I have... **** I was scared too*** lol...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:30 PM - 9 January, 2015

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Running a pair of ZXa5s at full tilt will require 4-6 powerful subs to balance the sound out.

Thanks for helping me think this through...

The events that I'd bring JUST the tops to would have no more than 150 folks I presume...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:32 PM - 9 January, 2015

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I have the EV ELX115 and I love them. If I were to do it buy again I'd get the ETX-15.

You also have to think that if you need your stand alones to scream that loud...you might not have enough speakers.

Duly noted! If I was JUST needing the TOPS, I wouldn't expect more than 150 folks...and y'all are saying the ZXA's could handle that no problem....Anything more than 150, I'd bring the subs....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:34 PM - 9 January, 2015

I need to do a sub comparison between the VRX918SP and the ETX-18SP.

That JBL is pricey tho...

DJ Val-BKNY11203 5:05 PM - 9 January, 2015

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I need to do a sub comparison between the VRX918SP and the ETX-18SP.

That JBL is pricey tho...

Make sure you take size, weight, current draw into consideration as well as sound.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:22 PM - 9 January, 2015

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I need to do a sub comparison between the VRX918SP and the ETX-18SP.

That JBL is pricey tho...

Make sure you take size, weight, current draw into consideration as well as sound.

lol, the entire reason why I'm going thru this exercise is because I'm downsizing from a MiniVan to an SUV...Hopefully a Ford Explorer....they look decent...but we'll see...

Joee 5:53 PM - 9 January, 2015

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Make sure you take size, weight, current draw into consideration as well as sound.

jbl wins !!!!! in all areas

the comparison was already done by a forum member

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:55 PM - 9 January, 2015

Quote:

Make sure you take size, weight, current draw into consideration as well as sound.

jbl wins !!!!! in all areas

the comparison was already done by a forum member

loll just "One" forum member?

Joee 6:05 PM - 9 January, 2015

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loll just "One" forum member?

one that know what he is talking about, the same guy that did the long video comparing the hd32 to the zxa5

Taipanic 6:17 PM - 9 January, 2015

You're in Jersey, you should get with pdidy and check out the JBL subs. Most importantly, will one or two be enough for what you want? If you need 3 or 4 that gets pricey very quickly. I would want to do a compare between the ETX18, Yorkville LS801p, and the VRX. You might very well come to the conclusion that one Yorkville will better meet your needs than 2-4 of the other speakers at half the cost or you are willing to take the DB & $ hit to have a better sounding, tighter sub with the ETX or VRX.

Joee 6:20 PM - 9 January, 2015

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You might very well come to the conclusion that one Yorkville will better meet your needs than 2-4 of the other speakers at half the cos

another good suggestion, one yourk will out due two of almost all 18" subs on the market and should fit in a ford explorer

but he doesn't want a heavy sub…….which in turn should rule out the etx sub

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:24 PM - 9 January, 2015

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You're in Jersey, you should get with pdidy and check out the JBL subs. Most importantly, will one or two be enough for what you want? If you need 3 or 4 that gets pricey very quickly. I would want to do a compare between the ETX18, Yorkville LS801p, and the VRX. You might very well come to the conclusion that one Yorkville will better meet your needs than 2-4 of the other speakers at half the cost or you are willing to take the DB & $ hit to have a better sounding, tighter sub with the ETX or VRX.

All I'm trying to do is meet the same specs as if I had my 2 Cerwins. I can't stand Yorkville...just never liked them or Yahmaha....

I'm sure I'll be fine with the EXT, or the VRX...

I'm gonna go to check my speaker guy today with my Cerwins and peep the LD's and whatever else he has...

Stay tuned...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:26 PM - 9 January, 2015

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but he doesn't want a heavy sub…….which in turn should rule out the etx sub

I didn't say the weight of the sub was a factor, but that 21" joint is a BEAST, and I know I'd want 2. I don't do single subs.

I have no problem with 2 of the ETX's or VRX's...

DJ Val-BKNY11203 6:28 PM - 9 January, 2015

Next thing you know you will be asking for advice on controllers. LOL

Joee 6:30 PM - 9 January, 2015

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Next thing you know you will be asking for advice on controllers. LOL

lmao

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:33 PM - 9 January, 2015

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Next thing you know you will be asking for advice on controllers. LOL

Man listen.....you already know....

Taipanic 7:23 PM - 9 January, 2015

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but he doesn't want a heavy sub…….which in turn should rule out the etx sub

I didn't say the weight of the sub was a factor, but that 21" joint is a BEAST, and I know I'd want 2. I don't do single subs.

I have no problem with 2 of the ETX's or VRX's...

In that case break out your wallet and go with the VRX subs. Not sure if you could fit 2 ETX plus all your other gear in the SUV. The VRX are 2-4-7" (HxWxD) smaller than the ETX.

pdidy 8:43 PM - 9 January, 2015

I excluded the entire ETX series on weight alone. I excluded the RCF subs on weight and price.

At this point I am totally over heavy speakers regardless of how good they are. A sub is only good if you're willing to carry it everywhere And not regretting when it's time to lift it.

Joee 5:09 PM - 14 January, 2015

@ JM

so were you at with this new setup? what do you think you will be the proud new owner of when all is said and done?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:41 PM - 14 January, 2015

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@ JM

so were you at with this new setup? what do you think you will be the proud new owner of when all is said and done?

I told you that you don't be readin....

Quote:

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:39 PM - 8 January, 2015
Ok, thank you to all who have contributed...

Oh, and keeping with the theme of full disclosure, I'm not getting these TOMORROW...

Uncle Sam will be giving me back my taxes around mid Feb, so then I can pull the trigger...

Stay tuned...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:47 PM - 14 January, 2015

However I did go visit my speaker guy and he let me listen to 2 LD jawns...

One was a 12" LD - DDQ12, which was LOOOOUUUUDDDDDDD.....

Another was a 15" LD - Stinger 15AG(2), which was "Eh"...

The 12" was like 1200-1400, but I'd need a Sub every time...

Oh, and I brought one Cerwin V35 up there, and that joint KNOOOOCCCKKKSSS....

That jawn coupled with the floor is nobody's bizznizz.

I did, however find out that my Preamp/EQ is shot, so new toys are on the horizon.

He had some LD sub that he received and is sending to NAMM so y'all can peep it out, but it should be back to his shop after the show...

I really need to hear a ZXA5.....

Gio Alex 5:53 PM - 14 January, 2015

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Next thing you know you will be asking for advice on controllers. LOL

Lol that's next

desmorider 5:56 PM - 14 January, 2015

What kind of preamp/eq do you use?

Joee 6:14 PM - 14 January, 2015

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@ JM

so were you at with this new setup? what do you think you will be the proud new owner of when all is said and done?

I told you that you don't be readin....

Quote:

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:39 PM - 8 January, 2015
Ok, thank you to all who have contributed...

Oh, and keeping with the theme of full disclosure, I'm not getting these TOMORROW...

Uncle Sam will be giving me back my taxes around mid Feb, so then I can pull the trigger...

Stay tuned...

that still didn't answer the question, what do you think your going to get?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:18 PM - 14 January, 2015

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What kind of preamp/eq do you use?

I had a Soundcraftsman old school rackmount joint....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:19 PM - 14 January, 2015

Quote:

@ JM

so were you at with this new setup? what do you think you will be the proud new owner of when all is said and done?

I told you that you don't be readin....

Quote:

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:39 PM - 8 January, 2015

Ok, thank you to all who have contributed...

Oh, and keeping with the theme of full disclosure, I'm not getting these TOMORROW...

Uncle Sam will be giving me back my taxes around mid Feb, so then I can pull the trigger...

Stay tuned...

that still didn't answer the question, what do you think your going to get?

If things sound the way I THINK they will, and from the feedback of you good people and my speaker guy, I'll probably be joining the ZXA5 crew with matching sub.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:21 PM - 14 January, 2015

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Next thing you know you will be asking for advice on controllers. LOL

Lol that's next

Geez, I hope not...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:26 PM - 14 January, 2015

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What kind of preamp/eq do you use?

I had a Soundcraftsman old school rackmount joint....

Model DX4200

www.mule.co.kr

desmorider 6:35 PM - 14 January, 2015

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What kind of preamp/eq do you use?

I had a Soundcraftsman old school rackmount joint....

Model DX4200

www.mule.co.kr

Nice Throwback. I use to own several of the soundcraftsmen a5002 amps back in the day. They made nice stuff.

Joee 6:37 PM - 14 January, 2015

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I'll probably be joining the ZXA5 crew with matching sub.

zxa5 has no matching sub do you mean the etx18sp? so you ruled out the etx15p that your heard for tops?

you should really consider the jbl vrx 918sp sub !!!!

desmorider 6:40 PM - 14 January, 2015

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However I did go visit my speaker guy and he let me listen to 2 LD jawns...

One was a 12" LD - DDQ12, which was LOOOOUUUUDDDDDDD.....

Another was a 15" LD - Stinger 15AG(2), which was "Eh"...

The 12" was like 1200-1400, but I'd need a Sub every time...

Oh, and I brought one Cerwin V35 up there, and that joint KNOOOOCCCKKKSSS....

That jawn coupled with the floor is nobody's bizznizz.

I did, however find out that my Preamp/EQ is shot, so new toys are on the horizon.

He had some LD sub that he received and is sending to NAMM so y'all can peep it out, but it should be back to his shop after the show...

I really need to hear a ZXA5.....

I know that it was a while ago, and I don't know if you listened to the etx12, but how would you say the sound of the ld-systems compared to the etx? Were you as impressed with the sound of the ddq12 as you were with the etx series? Do you know if the sub he had was the high end ddq18-sub I was asking him about?

desmorider 6:50 PM - 14 January, 2015

KoooooL Joee or anyone else in the Know,

I have listened to the etx18sp sub, and I think that they sound good. The question that I have is do they have a standard hi pass setting like at 100hz to use with tops other then Electrovoice. I know that it has built in dsp programs for specific electrovoice speakers.

Joee,
Have you heard the rcf8004 and the etx18sp back to back? If so, what are your thoughts? Im getting about $900 difference in price on the subs, and im trying to see if the rcf's are worth the extra scratch.

The thing that is strange about the 8004, is that it only has 1 input and 1 output, where as the 8003 has 2 inputs and 2 outputs, making it simple to go left/right in from mixer and left/right out to tops.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:57 PM - 14 January, 2015

Quote:

I'll probably be joining the ZXA5 crew with matching sub.

zxa5 has no matching sub do you mean the etx18sp? so you ruled out the etx15p that your heard for tops?

you should really consider the jbl vrx 918sp sub !!!!

Yes, I've ruled out the ETX-15p. Why?

Because you said the ZXA5's are way LOOOUUUUDDDEEERRRR.....

Plus, NOBODY around here has the ZXA5's, so since I've always had the loudest standalone 3 way speaker around here, I might as well continue that tradition by having the loudest 2 way speaker combo as well.

Trust, I'd like to step into Pdidy's shoes, but that JBL ain't cheap, and I'm not doing crazy large functions like that.

So yeah, the EXT18SP is on the horizon.

Plus that question that Gaffle asked me about matching the speaker brands kinda came into play....

Might as well be uniform.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:02 PM - 14 January, 2015

Quote:

What kind of preamp/eq do you use?

I had a Soundcraftsman old school rackmount joint....

Model DX4200

www.mule.co.kr

Nice Throwback. I use to own several of the soundcraftsmen a5002 amps back in the day. They made nice stuff.

My dude had the little pm840 or something like that, and that joint was a tank...

Easy to bridge too...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:06 PM - 14 January, 2015

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I know that it was a while ago, and I don't know if you listened to the etx12, but how would you say the sound of the ld-systems compared to the etx? Were you as impressed with the sound of the ddq12 as you were with the etx series? Do you know if the sub he had was the high end ddq18-sub I was asking him about?

Actually, I think I did SEE the EXT12, but didn't listen to it because I wasn't interested in 12" speakers. That DDQ12 screams.....seriously... It was very clear as well, as clear as the EXT15, but not enough bottom end.

I think the sub you and he were talking about is the same one that's gonna be at NAMM.

I think he said he sent you an email to let you know as well...

Joee 7:18 PM - 14 January, 2015

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Trust, I'd like to step into Pdidy's shoes, but that JBL ain't cheap, and I'm not doing crazy large functions like that.

wold it be worth it for you to pay $1,500 per sub vs $1,200 so that your sub would be 85lbs vs 115lbs?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:30 PM - 14 January, 2015

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Trust, I'd like to step into Pdidy's shoes, but that JBL ain't cheap, and I'm not doing crazy large functions like that.

wold it be worth it for you to pay $1,500 per sub vs $1,200 so that your sub would be 85lbs vs 115lbs?

It depends, because the weight might add some needed db's....

DJ Val-BKNY11203 7:33 PM - 14 January, 2015

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Trust, I'd like to step into Pdidy's shoes, but that JBL ain't cheap, and I'm not doing crazy large functions like that.

wold it be worth it for you to pay $1,500 per sub vs $1,200 so that your sub would be 85lbs vs 115lbs?

It depends, because the weight might add some needed db's....

EV has deeper box. You get a different kind of boom.

desmorider 7:59 PM - 14 January, 2015

Joee,

Do you have any input on the listed questions?

Quote:

KoooooL Joee or anyone else in the Know,

I have listened to the etx18sp sub, and I think that they sound good. The question that I have is do they have a standard hi pass setting like at 100hz to use with tops other then Electrovoice. I know that it has built in dsp programs for specific electrovoice speakers.

Joee,
Have you heard the rcf8004 and the etx18sp back to back? If so, what are your thoughts? Im getting about $900 difference in price on the subs, and im trying to see if the rcf's are worth the extra scratch.

The thing that is strange about the 8004, is that it only has 1 input and 1 output, where as the 8003 has 2 inputs and 2 outputs, making it simple to go left/right in from mixer and left/right out to tops.

Joee 8:41 PM - 14 January, 2015

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The question that I have is do they have a standard hi pass setting like at 100hz

i'm not 100% sure but i believe there is no high pass output so it would send a full range signal to your 745

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Joee,
Have you heard the rcf8004 and the etx18sp back to back?

i have but not back to back on paper the rcf goes lower and a tad louder

Quote:

The thing that is strange about the 8004, is that it only has 1 input and 1 output, where as the 8003 has 2 inputs and 2 outputs, making it simple to go left/right in from mixer and left/right out to tops.

you could always run your system in mono if you plan on buying only one

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:10 PM - 14 January, 2015

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Trust, I'd like to step into Pdidy's shoes, but that JBL ain't cheap, and I'm not doing crazy large functions like that.

wold it be worth it for you to pay $1,500 per sub vs $1,200 so that your sub would be 85lbs vs 115lbs?

It depends, because the weight might add some needed db's....

EV has deeper box. You get a different kind of boom.

Yeah, I understand the ETX18SP has a low "Growl" to it...

I have yet to hear the JBLVRX918SP, as it probably has more bass 'Punch".....

I just need to listen to EVERYTHING...lol.

Joee 10:35 PM - 14 January, 2015

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I just need to listen to EVERYTHING...lol.

go listen to the vrx, you might like it better

pdidy 11:45 PM - 14 January, 2015

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I just need to listen to EVERYTHING...lol.

go listen to the vrx, you might like it better

I FOUND the link to the vrx vs etx sub comparison made by djdisbjohn who i consider a trusted user....serato.com

djdisbjohn youtube Watch www.youtube.com

Joee 12:34 AM - 15 January, 2015

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I just need to listen to EVERYTHING...lol.

go listen to the vrx, you might like it better

I FOUND the link to the vrx vs etx sub comparison made by djdisbjohn who i consider a trusted user....serato.com

djdisbjohn youtube Watch www.youtube.com

there is one thing that came up after his review

it has been said that the etx speaker works/sounds better in live mode witch he didn't get a chance to test

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:43 AM - 15 January, 2015

Hey Joee,

Send me a ZXA5 real quick.... :-)

Joee 12:46 AM - 15 January, 2015

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Hey Joee,

Send me a ZXA5 real quick.... :-)

i'll send you the blown one……..lmao

on the real how far are you from brooklyn or philly, pdidy or myself will give you a live demo

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:24 AM - 15 January, 2015

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Hey Joee,

Send me a ZXA5 real quick.... :-)

i'll send you the blown one……..lmao

on the real how far are you from brooklyn or philly, pdidy or myself will give you a live demo

I'm in Central Jersey, Brooklyn is no problem, just have to time it right....

Philly is a trip, but I'm down for a steak...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:19 PM - 4 February, 2015

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Hey Joee,

Send me a ZXA5 real quick.... :-)

i'll send you the blown one……..lmao

on the real how far are you from brooklyn or philly, pdidy or myself will give you a live demo

I'm in Central Jersey, Brooklyn is no problem, just have to time it right....

Philly is a trip, but I'm down for a steak...

From the other thread -

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Yes, Pdidy is closer, but I'm not sure if he can turn it up full blast out in NY....

I know you give absolutely ZERO f*cks when it comes to testing speakers... :-D!

Plus, a ride for a Philly Cheesteak at Gino's or Pat's is worth the trip...

Hey Pdidy, can we do a sound check in the Tri-State without your neighbors calllin' jake?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:20 PM - 4 February, 2015

From the other thread -

Quote:

I specifically need to hear the ZXA5's...just to be aware of what I'm gonna experience.

I know I'm leaning towards the ETX18SP as I hear it has a low "Growl" to it, but I understand
there is a REASON that Pdidy bought the JBLVRX918SP's....so I may need to listen to them...

I understand they have a different sound...

Joee 4:50 PM - 4 February, 2015

you might as well listen to my rcf's you might find the 15" 70lbs sub to your liking

also there is someone on forum from philly that has the vrx918sp & zxa5….maybe we can all get together and do a speaker/sub shootout, D. J. Shawn Quick i beleave he's in west philly

we can do a speaker shootout between different ev's & rcf's….sh!t bring one of your vega 's too

pdidy 6:07 AM - 5 February, 2015

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Yes, Pdidy is closer, but I'm not sure if he can turn it up full blast out in NY....

I know you give absolutely ZERO f*cks when it comes to testing speakers... :-D!

Plus, a ride for a Philly Cheesteak at Gino's or Pat's is worth the trip...

Hey Pdidy, can we do a sound check in the Tri-State without your neighbors calllin' jake?

I have no issues with jake but unfortunately i live in a private house with my landlord directly above me :(

I've mentioned in the past that i don't even hook up my set at home for this reason, It will literally shake the entire building and the 2 connecting houses......It would be a total disservice to sound test zxa5's or vrx918sp at such low levels in my house. This system needs to be banged hard for at least 15-30 min with different music to get the full picture of its capabilities.

Joee 12:02 PM - 5 February, 2015

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This system needs to be banged hard for at least 15-30 min with different music to get the full picture of its capabilities.

and in a wide open area, in a house will not do it justice

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:11 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Yes, Pdidy is closer, but I'm not sure if he can turn it up full blast out in NY....

I know you give absolutely ZERO f*cks when it comes to testing speakers... :-D!

Plus, a ride for a Philly Cheesteak at Gino's or Pat's is worth the trip...

Hey Pdidy, can we do a sound check in the Tri-State without your neighbors calllin' jake?

I have no issues with jake but unfortunately i live in a private house with my landlord directly above me :(

I've mentioned in the past that i don't even hook up my set at home for this reason, It will literally shake the entire building and the 2 connecting houses......It would be a total disservice to sound test zxa5's or vrx918sp at such low levels in my house. This system needs to be banged hard for at least 15-30 min with different music to get the full picture of its capabilities.

Nah bro, I figured as much....Trust I live in the Tri-State. Don't worry, Joee has NO PROBLEM blasting his neighbors doors off their hinges.... :-).

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:11 PM - 5 February, 2015

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sh!t bring one of your vega 's too

Oh, that's an automatic...

Joee 12:18 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Joee has NO PROBLEM blasting his neighbors doors off their hinges.... :-).

i do blast them when testing but not long 1 or 2 minutes

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:01 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Joee has NO PROBLEM blasting his neighbors doors off their hinges.... :-).

i do blast them when testing but not long 1 or 2 minutes

Hey, they'll be alright....

How long does it take the cops to arrive?

We'll have it turned down by then... :-)

Joee 1:09 PM - 5 February, 2015

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How long does it take the cops to arrive?

it's not about that, it's about not bothering your neighbors

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:14 PM - 5 February, 2015

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How long does it take the cops to arrive?

it's not about that, it's about not bothering your neighbors

You care about your neighbors?

Stop playin...

Joee 1:27 PM - 5 February, 2015

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You care about your neighbors?

Stop playin...

the city of brotherly (neighborly) love!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:28 PM - 5 February, 2015

Hmmm...I heard about y'all.... :-).

Joee 1:33 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Hmmm...I heard about y'all.... :-).

hey……now….. give that dirty mind a rest

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:53 PM - 5 February, 2015

Is there an open area, like a park with electricity, where we can go light it up for a min?

Joee 2:06 PM - 5 February, 2015

if your talking when the weather breaks i'm sure we can find something , but i'm doing nofin in this cold weather

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:25 PM - 5 February, 2015

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if your talking when the weather breaks i'm sure we can find something , but i'm doing nofin in this cold weather

WHAT? Man listen...I'll let u know when I get the loot.... :-).

A little cold don't hurt nuffin...

Suppose you gotta DJ an Ice Skating Outside Jamboree or sumphin?

Besides, you're from PHILLY, y'all do cold weather like nuffin....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:26 PM - 5 February, 2015

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WHAT? Man listen...I'll let u know when I get the loot.... :-).

Actually, I don't even need to wait that long, I just need to hear those joints...

Joee 2:35 PM - 5 February, 2015

i have 10 foot ceilings in the basement with a 20 to 30 foot walkway ,i think it will do just don't expect me to play them for 30min straight

Gio Alex 3:08 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Yes, Pdidy is closer, but I'm not sure if he can turn it up full blast out in NY....

I know you give absolutely ZERO f*cks when it comes to testing speakers... :-D!

Plus, a ride for a Philly Cheesteak at Gino's or Pat's is worth the trip...

Hey Pdidy, can we do a sound check in the Tri-State without your neighbors calllin' jake?

I have no issues with jake but unfortunately i live in a private house with my landlord directly above me :(

I've mentioned in the past that i don't even hook up my set at home for this reason, It will literally shake the entire building and the 2 connecting houses......It would be a total disservice to sound test zxa5's or vrx918sp at such low levels in my house. This system needs to be banged hard for at least 15-30 min with different music to get the full picture of its capabilities.

Nah bro, I figured as much....Trust I live in the Tri-State. Don't worry, Joee has NO PROBLEM blasting his neighbors doors off their hinges.... :-).

Yo Johnny, are you from BX?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:36 PM - 5 February, 2015

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i have 10 foot ceilings in the basement with a 20 to 30 foot walkway ,i think it will do just don't expect me to play them for 30min straight

BOOM....Sounds like a plan.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:37 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Yo Johnny, are you from BX?

Nope, Jerz.

Gio Alex 3:39 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Yo Johnny, are you from BX?

Nope, Jerz.

That was gonna be my next guess. I only ask because no one really says "tri-state" lol. I mostly hear it from people that reside in CT, Jerz or North Bx area.

I just haven't heard anyone say that in a while. Anyway, carry on.

Joee 3:45 PM - 5 February, 2015

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i have 10 foot ceilings in the basement with a 20 to 30 foot walkway ,i think it will do just don't expect me to play them for 30min straight

BOOM....Sounds like a plan.

and when are you looking to do this? i just may buy a HD32-A sooner than later

SELECT 4:04 PM - 5 February, 2015

Bros, that video of the speaker shootout will have millions of views. Do it!

SELECT 4:04 PM - 5 February, 2015

Would be great if you could cover distance and dispersion of them all as well.

Joee 4:31 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Bros, that video of the speaker shootout will have millions of views. Do it!

that video has been done already
Watch www.youtube.com

SELECT 4:38 PM - 5 February, 2015

I want to see a video of the zxa5 and vrx subs in action. In a live setting, all speakers BUMPIN. Those home videos do no justice. Thats not how you hear them in a live setting.

This is quick vid of my ETX setup. Two 12p tops and one 15p sub. I used my phone so the quality isnt great, but thats what I want to see. I want to hear how they disperse and the distance they cover. All that home stuff doesnt do anything for me as thats not how any us will ever use them.
Watch www.youtube.com

Joee 4:49 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Those home videos do no justice.

that the problem no video will ever do the speakers justice, they just give us an idea

i don't own vrx918ps i got rid of them, i don't want any sub heavier than 70lbs

i now run RCF art 905-a's--> www.kpodj.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:50 PM - 5 February, 2015

Quote:

i have 10 foot ceilings in the basement with a 20 to 30 foot walkway ,i think it will do just don't expect me to play them for 30min straight

BOOM....Sounds like a plan.

and when are you looking to do this? i just may buy a HD32-A sooner than later

What subs do you have?

Joee 6:43 PM - 5 February, 2015

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What subs do you have?

now i tell you like you tell me, you don't read, i have these the post above yours says so
www.rcf.it

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:18 PM - 5 February, 2015

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What subs do you have?

now i tell you like you tell me, you don't read, i have these the post above yours says so

www.rcf.it

Man, that may be your LATEST acquisition, but I know you have more to choose from...

Joee 7:23 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Man, that may be your LATEST acquisition, but I know you have more to choose from...

i have two 905's i got rid of all my other subs, vrx918sp/elx118p/zxa1 sub/sub 705-as

the goal is

2 evox 8
2 hd32-a
4 art 905-as
2 art 745-a

Joee 8:02 PM - 5 February, 2015

@JM

i don't think anyone has mentioned it & i know you said you don't like yamaha ..but

being the frugal individual that you are, you really need to look at the yamaha dxr15 go to guitar center and listen to it…….it is the poor mans zxa5 good sound/bass/loud & has a 7 year warranty you can get them @ or under $700
usa.yamaha.com

they really are a good speaker

Joee 8:05 PM - 5 February, 2015

here's al's short review
Watch www.youtube.com

Gio Alex 8:15 PM - 5 February, 2015

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the goal is

2 evox 8

Pardon my ignorance, but for the size these seem to pack a mean punch (No mango juice), but what setups are these adequate for? i.e., small wedding of 75-100 people, or is that too little vs. too many? Thanks for the input.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:54 PM - 5 February, 2015

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@JM

i don't think anyone has mentioned it & i know you said you don't like yamaha ..but

being the frugal individual that you are, you really need to look at the yamaha dxr15 go to guitar center and listen to it…….it is the poor mans zxa5 good sound/bass/loud & has a 7 year warranty you can get them @ or under $700
usa.yamaha.com

they really are a good speaker

lol...Didn't I tell you I don't like Yahmaha?

I wanna join the ZXA5 Club!

Stop posting up different stuff to change my mind...lmao.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:02 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Man, that may be your LATEST acquisition, but I know you have more to choose from...

i have two 905's i got rid of all my other subs, vrx918sp/elx118p/zxa1 sub/sub 705-as

Wow, you got rid of the VRX918SP? ...No biggie, I'm sure I can find someone who has that around....

Or GC carries those right?

Anyway, the deal is to compare the VRX918SP to the ETX18SP, but I'm leaning towards the EXT, as the matching brand would be nice...

Then again, if those VRX's are THAT much better than the ETX's...that might be interesting...

Joee 10:18 PM - 5 February, 2015

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Stop posting up different stuff to change my mind...lmao.

there really good speakers

Quote:

Wow, you got rid of the VRX918SP? ...No biggie, I'm sure I can find someone who has that around....

you don't read, i posted in this same thread that i didn't want a sub heavier than 70lbs

Quote:

Anyway, the deal is to compare the VRX918SP to the ETX18SP

you don't read..lol, i told you there was a forum member that has the vrx & zxa5 in philly, maybe we could all get together for a speaker shootout

YOU HAVE TO READ MAN!………..lol

Joee 10:20 PM - 5 February, 2015

dxr15 baby!!!!!!!

that will leave you more money for the ford explorer son

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:35 PM - 5 February, 2015

Quote:

you don't read..lol, i told you there was a forum member that has the vrx & zxa5 in philly, maybe we could all get together for a speaker shootout

YOU HAVE TO READ MAN!………..lol

Man, u know I don't be readin' all that mess you be postin....lmao.

pdidy 10:43 PM - 5 February, 2015

Hey Johnny I just got an idea, Canal hifi has pretty much everything on your list for testing and a sound room to play it as load as you want...... so I gave Benson a call (I think you know him) He has everything there except the zxa5 on the floor for demo VRX, ETX ect......www.canalsoundlight.com

If we setup a date an time I could bring the zxa5 to the battle......

Joee 1:40 AM - 6 February, 2015

JM should really wait for these new jbl prx 800 to come out, give them a listen…what if jbl just killed everything on the market?

i could see it happening…..there was a time when the JBL name stood for some of the BEST gear around, now companies like yamaha make a better speaker than the prx 700 while being cheaper

maybe jabl/harmen got tired of this? & want to kill everything out there?

either way on paper these new jbl's look GOOD

SG SOUNDS 3:12 AM - 6 February, 2015

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dxr15 baby!!!!!!!

that will leave you more money for the ford explorer son

I love my DXR15's....They just sound soooooo sweeeeet and people will ask you were are you hiding the bass bottoms when they hear dem...7 year warrantybest in the business....

pdidy 5:07 AM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

dxr15 baby!!!!!!!

that will leave you more money for the ford explorer son

I love my DXR15's....They just sound soooooo sweeeeet and people will ask you were are you hiding the bass bottoms when they hear dem...7 year warrantybest in the business....

Now imagine 1 speaker thats as loud and clean as 2 DXR15's......That's a EV zxa5 :)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:30 AM - 6 February, 2015

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Hey Johnny I just got an idea, Canal hifi has pretty much everything on your list for testing and a sound room to play it as load as you want...... so I gave Benson a call (I think you know him) He has everything there except the zxa5 on the floor for demo VRX, ETX ect......www.canalsoundlight.com

If we setup a date an time I could bring the zxa5 to the battle......

See? Now THIS is why you are that dude....

Much appreciated...will check my calendar, Saturdays are best for me....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:32 AM - 6 February, 2015

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JM should really wait for these new jbl prx 800 to come out, give them a listen…what if jbl just killed everything on the market?

See, if I don't ever buy anything, I'm gonna blame YOU for me not being able to upgrade...

STOP TRYING TO CHANGE MY MIND! LOL...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:32 AM - 6 February, 2015

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Now imagine 1 speaker thats as loud and clean as 2 DXR15's......That's a EV zxa5 :)

This is why I need to hear that jawn....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:36 AM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

Much appreciated...will check my calendar, Saturdays are best for me....

Wait! Canal is open on Sundays too? My schedule just opened up even wider...

Joee 12:27 PM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

JM should really wait for these new jbl prx 800 to come out, give them a listen…what if jbl just killed everything on the market?

See, if I don't ever buy anything, I'm gonna blame YOU for me not being able to upgrade...

STOP TRYING TO CHANGE MY MIND! LOL...

dude, them "JAWNS" look sick on paper & the 15" is a few hundred cheaper than the zxa5
www.jblpro.com

SG SOUNDS 12:43 PM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

dxr15 baby!!!!!!!

that will leave you more money for the ford explorer son

I love my DXR15's....They just sound soooooo sweeeeet and people will ask you were are you hiding the bass bottoms when they hear dem...7 year warrantybest in the business....

Now imagine 1 speaker thats as loud and clean as 2 DXR15's......That's a EV zxa5 :)[/quo

Im well aware of how the EV zxa5 sound i had them then got rid of them and gotten the EV ETX 35p the ETX 35p sounds better than the Zxa5

The DXR i use for smaller gigs when i dont need subs..For the price of the DXR and warranty you cant go wrong..They not as loud as the Zxa5 but they are loud enough and sound very good and clean at high volumes with great bass for any small to med event

The Zxa5 do not sound good at high volumes and the fact it have no limiters always had me worried. .The DXR's never failed me yet...

DJ GaFFle 2:50 PM - 6 February, 2015

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...

The Zxa5 do not sound good at high volumes and the fact it have no limiters always had me worried. .The DXR's never failed me yet...

Let me put some detailed specifics on this statement so the rest of the Internet community doesn't get the wrong idea:

The ZXA5's, hands down, sound better than any current 2-way MI powered speaker you can find at a Sam Ash or GC when those speakers are at their loudest (near peak) volumes. The thing is, the ZXA5's can go even louder... much louder than the competition. It's at those volumes when they can get harsh and don't sound as good.

No one should be running their tops at those volumes anyway. If you do, you probably need additional speakers or should step your game up to 3-ways like Riddim did.

SELECT 3:42 PM - 6 February, 2015

I love that all these new speakers are coming out with the DSP screen and better protection monitoring. On the SRX800 I just read that you setup your input level first and then you can turn the master up or down. Sounds like clean gain structure to me. Love it.

DJ GaFFle 3:59 PM - 6 February, 2015

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I love that all these new speakers are coming out with the DSP screen and better protection monitoring. On the SRX800 I just read that you setup your input level first and then you can turn the master up or down. Sounds like clean gain structure to me. Love it.

Hmmm... sounds like confusion and missteps to your average DJ to me. Then again, your average DJ won't be spending this kind of loot on PA speakers.

SELECT 4:06 PM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

I love that all these new speakers are coming out with the DSP screen and better protection monitoring. On the SRX800 I just read that you setup your input level first and then you can turn the master up or down. Sounds like clean gain structure to me. Love it.

Hmmm... sounds like confusion and missteps to your average DJ to me. Then again, your average DJ won't be spending this kind of loot on PA speakers.

Could be, it happens all the time. True and have you seen the price of the 3 ways. Im about to sell my whole system and start off with those. They are pole mountable FTW! Anyhow the instructions seem pretty straight forward though from what I read. I think the added DSP settings are a huge plus for all powered speakers as you can visually see everything thats happening.

SELECT 4:09 PM - 6 February, 2015

Not feeling the coverage pattern on the 3 ways, 60° x 40°. Will have a hard time with placement of those. Probably project really well though.

Joee 4:13 PM - 6 February, 2015

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price of the 3 ways

i already got a price

under $1,400

SELECT 4:14 PM - 6 February, 2015

Nice! still a good buy considering they are self powered and have built in DSP. I paid close to that for my passive SRX 715s.

Joee 5:35 PM - 6 February, 2015

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Nice! still a good buy considering they are self powered and have built in DSP. I paid close to that for my passive SRX 715s.

considering the fact that the srx715 is a two way and you still need to get a amp, i think under $1,400 for a powered 3 way is a good deal

DJ GaFFle 10:26 PM - 6 February, 2015

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Not feeling the coverage pattern on the 3 ways, 60° x 40°. Will have a hard time with placement of those. Probably project really well though.

Big boy sound guys love that dispersion because they'll use a pair per side.

If you cluster a pair or more subs and put these 3-ways on top clustered, that's 120 degrees of awesome sound.

SG SOUNDS 11:36 PM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

I love that all these new speakers are coming out with the DSP screen and better protection monitoring. On the SRX800 I just read that you setup your input level first and then you can turn the master up or down. Sounds like clean gain structure to me. Love it.

Cant wait to hear them..My ETX35p i love the sound of those boxes but if these sound better (and it have to be waaaay better) ill be doing the switch..

SG SOUNDS 11:37 PM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

...

The Zxa5 do not sound good at high volumes and the fact it have no limiters always had me worried. .The DXR's never failed me yet...

Let me put some detailed specifics on this statement so the rest of the Internet community doesn't get the wrong idea:

The ZXA5's, hands down, sound better than any current 2-way MI powered speaker you can find at a Sam Ash or GC when those speakers are at their loudest (near peak) volumes. The thing is, the ZXA5's can go even louder... much louder than the competition. It's at those volumes when they can get harsh and don't sound as good.

Thats why i bought the 35p's
No one should be running their tops at those volumes anyway. If you do, you probably need additional speakers or should step your game up to 3-ways like Riddim did.

SG SOUNDS 11:38 PM - 6 February, 2015

Quote:

Not feeling the coverage pattern on the 3 ways, 60° x 40°. Will have a hard time with placement of those. Probably project really well though.

Big boy sound guys love that dispersion because they'll use a pair per side.

If you cluster a pair or more subs and put these 3-ways on top clustered, that's 120 degrees of awesome sound.

+1

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:18 AM - 18 March, 2015

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Hey Johnny I just got an idea, Canal hifi has pretty much everything on your list for testing and a sound room to play it as load as you want...... so I gave Benson a call (I think you know him) He has everything there except the zxa5 on the floor for demo VRX, ETX ect......www.canalsoundlight.com

If we setup a date an time I could bring the zxa5 to the battle......

Stay tuned...

pdidy 8:06 PM - 18 March, 2015

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Hey Johnny I just got an idea, Canal hifi has pretty much everything on your list for testing and a sound room to play it as load as you want...... so I gave Benson a call (I think you know him) He has everything there except the zxa5 on the floor for demo VRX, ETX ect......www.canalsoundlight.com

If we setup a date an time I could bring the zxa5 to the battle......

spoke to benson again today, they have the jbl srx800 series in stock now.

Stay tuned...

Joee 8:16 PM - 18 March, 2015

Quote:

spoke to benson again today, they have the jbl srx800 series in stock now.

Stay tuned..

the plot thickens………make sure you guys do this ASAP…….i want to know if those srx815's are the business

DJ Val-BKNY11203 2:00 AM - 19 March, 2015

By the time he does this QSC will have new stuff out.

Joee 10:19 AM - 19 March, 2015

Quote:

By the time he does this QSC will have new stuff out.

first a new mac now i new (well old but New) iPhone

he just might……lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:22 AM - 19 March, 2015

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By the time he does this QSC will have new stuff out.

HEY! I'm very deliberate in my purchases....:-D

DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:35 PM - 19 March, 2015

Quote:

By the time he does this QSC will have new stuff out.

HEY! I'm very deliberate in my purchases....:-D

Gemini might make a turn around and be relevant again. LOL

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:09 PM - 19 March, 2015

Quote:

By the time he does this QSC will have new stuff out.

HEY! I'm very deliberate in my purchases....:-D

Gemini might make a turn around and be relevant again. LOL

Now if you said REALISTIC....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:27 PM - 18 April, 2015

Well, the "Plan" continues...

I got rid of my old ride and got this

A 2015 Ford Explorer

www.djjohnnym.com
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I'm looking to fit 2 EV ZXA5's and Subs in it....

What y'all think?

Joee 9:37 PM - 18 April, 2015

nice, i believe the guy shoe designed that explorer is the same person that designed the new range rover
www.djjohnnym.com
man you have room for days in that jawn

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:40 PM - 18 April, 2015

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nice, i believe the guy shoe designed that explorer is the same person that designed the new range rover
www.djjohnnym.com
man you have room for days in that jawn

I DID see how it resembled the Range, and I DON'T like Range Rovers, but I love the look of this car...

So, 2 EV ZXA5, and 2 SUBS, no problem?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:45 PM - 18 April, 2015

Oh, and here's the jawn I got RID of ...

www.cars.com

129,000 miles, 10G's LEFT on the loan, and 3 years left of payments of 300 a month...

I was averaging 30,000 miles a YEAR...

So for 100 more bucks a month, I've lost some cargo room, but gained a new ride...

Stay tuned for more.....

Joee 9:47 PM - 18 April, 2015

Quote:

So, 2 EV ZXA5, and 2 SUBS, no problem?

o so you acting like you didn't see this

Quote:

man you have room for days in that jawn

lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:50 PM - 18 April, 2015

Quote:

So, 2 EV ZXA5, and 2 SUBS, no problem?

o so you acting like you didn't see this

Quote:

man you have room for days in that jawn

lol

I just want to be "Clear".... :-)

Joee 9:56 PM - 18 April, 2015

now it's finally time to bring your speaker game to the new millennium :-)

i know you want the zxa5 and all, but i would advise if you want ev get etx line subs & tops

Joee 9:57 PM - 18 April, 2015

o and that new jbl powered srx line deserves a close look

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:00 PM - 18 April, 2015

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i know you want the zxa5 and all, but i would advise if you want ev get etx line subs & tops

Why are you stuck on that ETX-15P? vs the ZXA5?

I'm pretty sure I'm getting the EXT18SP as a sub however...

I do what to hear Pdidy's JBL Subs though, as I want a certain type of Bass Punch, versus that boomy sound...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:00 PM - 18 April, 2015

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o and that new jbl powered srx line deserves a close look

Why? Who has it already on here?

Joee 10:10 PM - 18 April, 2015

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Why are you stuck on that ETX-15P? vs the ZXA5?

because you already heard them liked the way they sound said they were hella loud & you couldn't imagine a speaker being much louder

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:31 PM - 18 April, 2015

Quote:

Why are you stuck on that ETX-15P? vs the ZXA5?

because you already heard them liked the way they sound said they were hella loud & you couldn't imagine a speaker being much louder

So? But the ZXA's are louder, right? Why don't u want me in the club man? :-(.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:32 PM - 18 April, 2015

ZXA5's I mean

Joee 10:38 PM - 18 April, 2015

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So? But the ZXA's are louder, right? Why don't u want me in the club man? :-(.

yes louder…..but the etx has all the dsp & is in a wooden box, IMO that wood box will give you better bass when using them stand alone…..i could be wrong thou

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:10 PM - 18 April, 2015

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So? But the ZXA's are louder, right? Why don't u want me in the club man? :-(.

yes louder…..but the etx has all the dsp & is in a wooden box, IMO that wood box will give you better bass when using them stand alone…..i could be wrong thou

So in comes the Wood Vs. Plastic debate...

I'm not looking for all KINDS of bass when the ZXA5's are used alone, but enough to be decent....

Trust, if I want bass, I'll bring a sub in a heartbeat.

Joee 11:23 PM - 18 April, 2015

just think, whats the preferred material for building bass box's wood not plastic, but like i said i could be wrong just…..MO

at the end of the day get what you want, i just like the idea of having the new technology of the etx

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:28 PM - 18 April, 2015

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at the end of the day get what you want, i just like the idea of having ~~the new technology of the etx~~ NEW SH*T!

Fixed! lol

desmorider 1:25 AM - 19 April, 2015

djjohnny,
What motor is in the explorer 3.5, 3.7 ecoboost? What kind of gas mileage that Jawn get son?

DJ Val-BKNY11203 6:06 AM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

at the end of the day get what you want, i just like the idea of having ~~the new technology of the etx~~ NEW SH*T!

Fixed! lol

If you are pulling the trigger get the newest. ZXA5 are loud but old technology now. I have not had a chance to hear the VRX, but I did listen to the EV. Sounded good, but those boxes were big & heavy

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:48 AM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

djjohnny,
What motor is in the explorer 3.5, 3.7 ecoboost? What kind of gas mileage that Jawn get son?

3.5L V6 TIVCT Engine

Joee 12:37 PM - 19 April, 2015

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but those boxes were big & heavy

thats the only thing i don't like about the etx……but considering he's replacing the old cv v3's there still lighter

still were not getting any younger…..if i were buying two 18"subs & two 15"tops my choice would be

jbl vrx 918sp sub 85lb …….$1,500 ish
rcf art 745-as top 43lbs……$1,200 ish

small portable but BIG serious sound

Gio Alex 2:46 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

djjohnny,
What motor is in the explorer 3.5, 3.7 ecoboost? What kind of gas mileage that Jawn get son?

3.5L V6 TIVCT Engine

You answered some of that question.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:28 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

djjohnny,
What motor is in the explorer 3.5, 3.7 ecoboost? What kind of gas mileage that Jawn get son?

3.5L V6 TIVCT Engine

You answered some of that question.

Ha, you're right, it SAYS combined 19 MPG, but I'm averaging 17 MPG for City Driving. Highway is SUPPOSED to be 23.

Joee 7:59 PM - 19 April, 2015

yo JM you may want to reconsider them new jbl srx jawns based on DJ GaFFle review of the 3 way

"I heard a pair of SRX 835's yesterday. Those kick major ass and get very loud + clear"

www.jblpro.com

SG SOUNDS 8:27 PM - 19 April, 2015

I finally got to hear the srx 835's yesterday and they do kick ass but i still rather the sound of the etx 35p..To me the ev just have that smiley face eq sound that i love over the jbl's

The jbl's do sound good though but my etx 35 sounds better what i do like about the jbl's is the ability to eq it remotely...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:30 PM - 19 April, 2015

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yo JM you may want to reconsider them new jbl srx jawns based on DJ GaFFle review of the 3 way

"I heard a pair of SRX 835's yesterday. Those kick major ass and get very loud + clear"

www.jblpro.com

Are they louder than ZAX5's?

That's my barometer...

Joee 8:32 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

yo JM you may want to reconsider them new jbl srx jawns based on DJ GaFFle review of the 3 way

"I heard a pair of SRX 835's yesterday. Those kick major ass and get very loud + clear"

www.jblpro.com

Are they louder than ZAX5's?

That's my barometer...

you need to ask gaff that one, i never realized your looking for the loudest speaker you can get within that budget? well in that case zxa5 it is than

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:54 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

yo JM you may want to reconsider them new jbl srx jawns based on DJ GaFFle review of the 3 way

"I heard a pair of SRX 835's yesterday. Those kick major ass and get very loud + clear"

www.jblpro.com

Are they louder than ZXA5's?

That's my barometer...

you need to ask gaff that one, i never realized your looking for the loudest speaker you can get within that budget? well in that case zxa5 it is than

What?

Is the ZXA5 the loudest for that price point or not?

Joee 8:57 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

What?

Is the ZXA5 the loudest for that price point or not?

in my experience yes it is

Joee 8:58 PM - 19 April, 2015

with this one be louder
www.jblpro.com

that remains to be seen

DJ GaFFle 9:14 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

yo JM you may want to reconsider them new jbl srx jawns based on DJ GaFFle review of the 3 way

"I heard a pair of SRX 835's yesterday. Those kick major ass and get very loud + clear"

www.jblpro.com

Are they louder than ZAX5's?

That's my barometer...

you need to ask gaff that one, i never realized your looking for the loudest speaker you can get within that budget? well in that case zxa5 it is than

Heck yeah they're louder, easily... PLUS, they sound much cleaner at those ear crushing volume levels... it's a 3-way. The ZXA5 will sound raspy at it's loudest of volumes. Granted, at its loudest volumes, the ZXA5 far surpasses most other 15" 2-way powered tops in loudness. The SRX835 is very big though as it's roughly the same size as the ETX35p.

Johnny, if you got something like a ETX35p or SRX835, you could essentially do most weddings w/o a sub and have very good low end compared to other DJs with 2-ways on sticks. Think about the weight and size though. If you has these 3-ways, you'd be looking to at least have a pair of 10's or 12's to offset that size and have portability for use with your sub(s).

Quote:

I finally got to hear the srx 835's yesterday and they do kick ass but i still rather the sound of the etx 35p..To me the ev just have that smiley face eq sound that i love over the jbl's

That smiley-faced EQ sound is all good when the speakers are stand-alone or "near-field" but when you need them to project far, be ultra clear at distances and at the loudest volumes, that smiley EQ won't do much good. I heard from the sales guy that the ETX35's are no joke though. He held them in high regard along with the rest of the ETX line. He did A/B the ETX18P vs. the SRX818P sub and the ETX seemed to smoke it. It had way more presence and made the room resonate but I'm not sure if he had the speaker levels set perfectly even to provide a good and fair test. I didn't check either.

Joee 9:18 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

Heck yeah they're louder, easily... PLUS, they sound much cleaner at those ear crushing volume levels... it's a 3-way. The ZXA5 will sound raspy at it's loudest of volumes. Granted, at its loudest volumes, the ZXA5 far surpasses most other 15" 2-way powered tops in loudness. The SRX835 is very big though as it's roughly the same size as the ETX35p.

i think he's asking about the SRX815P i remember him saying he wants 15"

Joee 9:19 PM - 19 April, 2015

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He did A/B the ETX18P vs. the SRX818P sub and the ETX seemed to smoke it

good info

SG SOUNDS 9:38 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

yo JM you may want to reconsider them new jbl srx jawns based on DJ GaFFle review of the 3 way

"I heard a pair of SRX 835's yesterday. Those kick major ass and get very loud + clear"

www.jblpro.com

Are they louder than ZAX5's?

That's my barometer...

you need to ask gaff that one, i never realized your looking for the loudest speaker you can get within that budget? well in that case zxa5 it is than

Heck yeah they're louder, easily... PLUS, they sound much cleaner at those ear crushing volume levels... it's a 3-way. The ZXA5 will sound raspy at it's loudest of volumes. Granted, at its loudest volumes, the ZXA5 far surpasses most other 15" 2-way powered tops in loudness. The SRX835 is very big though as it's roughly the same size as the ETX35p.

Johnny, if you got something like a ETX35p or SRX835, you could essentially do most weddings w/o a sub and have very good low end compared to other DJs with 2-ways on sticks. Think about the weight and size though. If you has these 3-ways, you'd be looking to at least have a pair of 10's or 12's to offset that size and have portability for use with your sub(s).

Quote:

I finally got to hear the srx 835's yesterday and they do kick ass but i still rather the sound of the etx 35p..To me the ev just have that smiley face eq sound that i love over the jbl's

That smiley-faced EQ sound is all good when the speakers are stand-alone or "near-field" but when you need them to project far, be ultra clear at distances and at the loudest volumes, that smiley EQ won't do much good. I heard from the sales guy that the ETX35's are no joke though. He held them in high regard along with the rest of the ETX line. He did A/B the ETX18P vs. the SRX818P sub and the ETX seemed to smoke it. It had way more presence and made the room resonate but I'm not sure if he had the speaker levels set perfectly even to provide a good and fair test. I didn't check either.

I used them in some large size gigs at high volumes and i find that they projected out very well especially when you have them coupled together (there 90 degree depression) even at the far back of any room i used them in the sound is very loud and most importantly very clear...

I never use them stand alone though always with my 4 yorkies..To me the jbl at high volumes dont sound as bright as the etx..the etx have a pleasing brightness to the ear if you know what i mean...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:53 PM - 19 April, 2015

Quote:

Heck yeah they're louder, easily... PLUS, they sound much cleaner at those ear crushing volume levels... it's a 3-way. The ZXA5 will sound raspy at it's loudest of volumes. Granted, at its loudest volumes, the ZXA5 far surpasses most other 15" 2-way powered tops in loudness. The SRX835 is very big though as it's roughly the same size as the ETX35p.

Johnny, if you got something like a ETX35p or SRX835, you could essentially do most weddings w/o a sub and have very good low end compared to other DJs with 2-ways on sticks. Think about the weight and size though. If you has these 3-ways, you'd be looking to at least have a pair of 10's or 12's to offset that size and have portability for use with your sub(s).

Ok, so again, we're back to where I was...

I want the best 2- Way speaker....period.

I'm not trying to have something to put on sticks and they are 3 feet high and heavy....lol.

I want a "mostly" matching sub....( Yes, I realize you need multiple subs to keep up with the ZXA5, but you get my drift.)

Is the ZXA5 the standalone bandit or no?

desmorider 12:08 AM - 20 April, 2015

Ok, so again, we're back to where I was...

I want the best 2- Way speaker....period.

Damn son. The absolute Best 2-way speaker????????????????

Kut-Da-Check Bruh...........

No limits

It will be a lot more expensive then the zxa5. Are you ready for the interesting recommendations you will get?

Joee 12:23 AM - 20 April, 2015

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I want the best 2- Way speaker on a budget....period.

fixed

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:30 AM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

Ok, so again, we're back to where I was...

I want the best 2- Way speaker....period.

Damn son. The absolute Best 2-way speaker????????????????

Kut-Da-Check Bruh...........

No limits

It will be a lot more expensive then the zxa5. Are you ready for the interesting recommendations you will get?

lol,..

Ok, is there a better 2 way 15" speaker better/louder than the ZXA5?

Y'all buggin...

desmorider 12:36 AM - 20 April, 2015

Real Talk Bruh,
Why don't you get your guy in Jersey to let you listen to the LD-System DDQ15. I would think that it would be a pretty good contender against the zxa5. The Faital pro components are suppose to be beasts.

www.ld-systems.com

Joee 12:37 AM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

lol,..

Ok, is there a better 2 way 15" speaker better/louder than the ZXA5?

Y'all buggin...

the 3 speakers in contention around $1,300 each are

RCF Art 745-AS
JBL SRX815P
EV ZXA5

desmorider 12:38 AM - 20 April, 2015

I don't think that you like RCF, but the art745a goes blow for blow with the zxa5, and the sound quality is great while getting very loud.

Joee 12:39 AM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

www.ld-systems.com

whats the price point on them jawns?

Joee 12:41 AM - 20 April, 2015

^ the DDQ 15

Joee 12:44 AM - 20 April, 2015

never mind i see the 12" goes for $1,399 so that should put the 15" at the same price point of the zxa5, zxa5 is $1,699 but sells for $1,300

desmorider 12:45 AM - 20 April, 2015

www.ld-systems.com

Im sure that his guy he deals with will give him a better price then what im posting.

desmorider 12:47 AM - 20 April, 2015

proaudionow.americommerce.com

my bust. I posted wrong link

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 AM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

Real Talk Bruh,

Why don't you get your guy in Jersey to let you listen to the LD-System DDQ15. I would think that it would be a pretty good contender against the zxa5. The Faital pro components are suppose to be beasts.

www.ld-systems.com

This MIGHT be interesting, however I have not heard the ZXA5 YET....

I need to hear it to set my baseline.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:25 AM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

I don't think that you like RCF, but the art745a goes blow for blow with the zxa5, and the sound quality is great while getting very loud.

I understand RCF's are impossible to get parts for.

Joee 11:03 AM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

I don't think that you like RCF, but the art745a goes blow for blow with the zxa5, and the sound quality is great while getting very loud.

I understand RCF's are impossible to get parts for.

imgur.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:43 PM - 20 April, 2015

Quote:

I don't think that you like RCF, but the art745a goes blow for blow with the zxa5, and the sound quality is great while getting very loud.

I understand RCF's are impossible to get parts for.

imgur.com

That's what my Speaker guy tells me...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:48 PM - 29 April, 2015

Psst...

What is the best SINGLE BRANDED 2 way / sub speaker combination right now?

For example, EV ZXA5 & ETX18SP or

RCF RCF 8003-AS & 745A or

or JBL (whatever Pdidy's tops are) & VRX918SP, etc....

Or whatever you can think of..

Again, this is BRAND SPECIFIC Combos only...

Joee 1:53 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Psst...

What is the best SINGLE BRANDED 2 way / sub speaker combination right now?

For example, EV ZXA5 & ETX18SP or

RCF RCF 8003-AS & 745A or

or JBL (whatever Pdidy's tops are) & VRX918SP, etc....

Or whatever you can think of..

Again, this is BRAND SPECIFIC Combos only...

s26.photobucket.com

size/weight/output considered if pdidiy wants it you know it's the truth son

www.rcf.it

www.rcf.it

all you need it two of each :)

Joee 1:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

^ by the way that is pro grade gear @ consumer grade pricing

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:04 PM - 29 April, 2015

I should mention that the 2 way box should be able to be used WITHOUT a Sub for smaller events...

Joee 2:13 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I should mention that the 2 way box should be able to be used WITHOUT a Sub for smaller events...

they said the nx had good low end……so they say

Joee 2:15 PM - 29 April, 2015

but on the real son! how many times & in how many ways are you going to ask the same question?

& why ask about rcf when you know your not buying them cause of what someone told you about parts?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:21 PM - 29 April, 2015

Look, I said -

Quote:

What is the best SINGLE BRANDED 2 way / sub speaker combination right now?

And listed some brand combo's as EXAMPLES...

Don't get all misty on me now....lmao.

Joee 2:25 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Don't get all misty on me now....lmao.

i think you have me confused with the other individual that frequents the board

as for the speakers…..you already know what your getting

ev zxa5 x2
&
ev etx18sp x2

i would get the vrx918sp x2 tho

6 2:25 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Don't get all misty on me now....lmao.

lol

nm

6 2:26 PM - 29 April, 2015

lol @ Johnny verifying this dude gets all emotional without reason lol

nm

Joee 2:26 PM - 29 April, 2015

see how fas that individual showed up as soon as you started all that misty talk

Joee 2:27 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

lol @ Johnny verifying this dude gets all emotional without reason lol

nm

LOL @ you chomping @ the bit to say something

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:28 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

you already know what your getting

Here YOU go again....

Don't worry about what you "Think" I'm getting...lol..

I'm doing this for a specific reason...

And the vrx918sp x2 paired with what JBL tops?

6 2:29 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

you already know what your getting

Here YOU go again....

Don't worry about what you "Think" I'm getting...lol..

hahaha

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:30 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

see how fas that individual showed up as soon as you started all that misty talk

I'm sayin, tho...

Stick with the topic at hand, and stop actin' all Carl Thomas about lol...

I just need some answers!

Joee 2:31 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Here YOU go again....

i don't know of what you speak……lol

Quote:

And the vrx918sp x2 paired with what JBL tops?

no……i don't think the vrx top will sound good stand alone
www.jblpro.com

but you have to confirm this with pdidy

Joee 2:32 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'm sayin, tho...

Stick with the topic at hand, and stop actin' all Carl Thomas about lol...

I just need some answers!

i do realize that all you doing is feeding the troll…….lol

Joee 2:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

o FYI those jbl tops cost 2k each

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:34 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And the vrx918sp x2 paired with what JBL tops?

no……i don't think the vrx top will sound good stand alone

www.jblpro.com

but you have to confirm this with pdidy

***Blank Stare*** I never suggested the VRX932lap, I said

Quote:

What is the best SINGLE BRANDED 2 way / sub speaker combination right now?

And then you took it left...lmao.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:36 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

o FYI those jbl tops cost 2k each

Quote:

***Blank Stare*** I never suggested the VRX932lap, I said

What is the best SINGLE BRANDED 2 way / sub speaker combination right now?

lol....Man listen....I'm about to fire you...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:36 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

i do realize that all you doing is feeding the troll…….lol

That's Ok, you had a good run..lmao.

Joee 2:40 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And then you took it left...lmao.

i just assumed you wanted match the top……lol

if your matching brands than you already know your getting ev stop playin… your getting those x5's

that said etx18sp it is……glad we settled that……lol

Quote:

lol....Man listen....I'm about to fire you...

what? why? wait! all damn…….lol

Quote:

i do realize that all you doing is feeding the troll…….lol

That's Ok, you had a good run..lmao.

LOL….

Joee 2:42 PM - 29 April, 2015

@ JM but you know you can get the ev etx15p instead of the zxa5!!!!!!!!

LMAO………..

Joee 2:45 PM - 29 April, 2015

option 1
www.electrovoice.com

option 2
www.electrovoice.com

lets put another one in the running ,option 3
www.electrovoice.com

hmmmm, decisions ??????

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:46 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

@ JM but you know you can get the ev etx15p instead of the zxa5!!!!!!!!

LMAO………..

See here YOU go...

Quote:

What is the best SINGLE BRANDED 2 way / sub speaker combination right now?

Stop gettin' all emotional man...

Lemmie find out this is you ...

Watch www.youtube.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:47 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

option 1

www.electrovoice.com

option 2

www.electrovoice.com

lets put another one in the running ,option 3

www.electrovoice.com

hmmmm, decisions ??????

And again, which is the BEST one to use with the same branded Sub?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:49 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

@ JM but you know you can get the ev etx15p instead of the zxa5!!!!!!!!

LMAO………..

And which one is BETTER again?

Joee 2:50 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And again, which is the BEST one to use with the same branded Sub?

but you already know the answer …..now your just trying to troll me

man listen

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:51 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

lol....Man listen....I'm about to fire you...

what? why? wait! all damn…….lol

lol, it's a SIMPLE QUESTION MAN...lmao.

Ok, let me make it a little EASIER then...

For EACH BRAND, list the best 2-Way / Sub Combo where the 2 Way can be a decent standalone.....

Better?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:52 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And again, which is the BEST one to use with the same branded Sub?

but you already know the answer …..now your just trying to troll me

man listen

No, I have my BELIEFS, but that purchase time is getting closer, and things (like technology) are always changing....

6 2:52 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

see how fas that individual showed up as soon as you started all that misty talk

I'm sayin, tho...

Stick with the topic at hand, and stop actin' all Carl Thomas about lol...

I just need some answers!

lmao!!!

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:53 PM - 29 April, 2015

There is a reason why I'm asking for the Brand matchup...

6 2:56 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'm sayin, tho...

Stick with the topic at hand, and stop actin' all Carl Thomas about lol...

I just need some answers!

i do realize that all you doing is feeding the troll…….lol

No. He's trying to calm you down you emotional being lol

nm

6 2:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Stop gettin' all emotional man...

Lemmie find out this is you ...

Watch www.youtube.com

Hahahahahahaha

nm

Joee 2:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

lol, it's a SIMPLE QUESTION MAN...lmao.

Ok, let me make it a little EASIER then...

For EACH BRAND, list the best 2-Way / Sub Combo where the 2 Way can be a decent standalone.....

Better?

o ok i see the question now……ok well you want the best one brand has to offer like ev for example……i got you son

the best posable ev top you can get is
www.electrovoice.com

& the best posable ev sub is
www.electrovoice.com

word they kill the zxa5/etx18sp combo….for real tho

Quote:

There is a reason why I'm asking for the Brand matchup...

& that reason is?

6 2:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

There is a reason why I'm asking for the Brand matchup...

You're going to have to wait until the meds kick in lol

Ann

6 2:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

lol @ Ann nm - thanks iPhone lol

nm

Joee 2:58 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'm sayin, tho...

Stick with the topic at hand, and stop actin' all Carl Thomas about lol...

I just need some answers!

i do realize that all you doing is feeding the troll…….lol

No. He's trying to calm you down you emotional being lol

nm

Quote:

Stop gettin' all emotional man...

Lemmie find out this is you ...

Watch www.youtube.com

Hahahahahahaha

nm

in need of some attention?

WAS UP CHIX……….How You Doin?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:04 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

the best POSSIBLE ev top you can get is

www.electrovoice.com

& the best POSSIBLE ev sub is

www.electrovoice.com

word they kill the zxa5/etx18sp combo….for real tho

You're kidding right? I thought the ETX18SP was the mother sub for EV...

And since when do you put ANY EV branded speaker over the ZXA5?

Quote:

There is a reason why I'm asking for the Brand matchup...

& that reason is?

I'll get to that in a minute...

Hell, you can even list Yamaha and Yorkville matchups if you want...

Joee 3:12 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'll get to that in a minute...

it's been 7 minuets already!

DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:16 PM - 29 April, 2015

I know you want 2 way, but if you really want stand alone 15's just get the ETX-35 with the ETX-18SP.

Big heavy rig but it's loud as hell & your tops stand well on their own.

Joee 3:19 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I know you want 2 way, but if you really want stand alone 15's just get the ETX-35 with the ETX-18SP.

Big heavy rig but it's loud as hell & your tops stand well on their own.

word……real talk son

i think he would need 4 subs thou if he wanted to open the 3 way bad boys up

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:21 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I know you want 2 way, but if you really want stand alone 15's just get the ETX-35 with the ETX-18SP.

Big heavy rig but it's loud as hell & your tops stand well on their own.

Nope, I need 2 way tops for small gigs....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:22 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'll get to that in a minute...

it's been 7 minuets already!

You sure it's not been "Sixxx" minutes already?

Like I said, don't let folks see your eyes waterin' up mayne....

Joee 3:23 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Nope, I need 2 way tops for small gigs....

right so EV ZXA5 it is than :)

man listen

we all know your going to get them, did that tax man get there yet?

Joee 3:24 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

You sure it's not been "Sixxx" minutes already?

Like I said, don't let folks see your eyes waterin' up mayne....

you sure it hasn't be Chixxx minutes?

Joee 3:25 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Like I said, don't let folks see your eyes waterin' up mayne....

there are simply for the fact that i'm LMAO over here……lol

DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:25 PM - 29 April, 2015

How much louder & more bass does the ZXA5 have than the ETX15?

Joee 3:29 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

How much louder & more bass does the ZXA5 have than the ETX15?

you have to hear it to believe it……. you could be far away & the speaker sounds like it's in your face thats how loud they are

as for the bass ,they sound as if you had a small sub woofer in the room

Joee 3:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

i'll leave this here

"there is no better 15" two box that you can buy @ it's price point than the ev zxa5….period point blank end of story finito finished over just like ja rule rap career the end"

altho the RCF Art 745-AS is looking like a competitor & just might be the speaker to dethrone it

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:36 PM - 29 April, 2015

And the RCF combo would be?

Joee 3:45 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And the RCF combo would be?

www.rcf.it

www.rcf.it

www.rcf.it

take your pic

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:50 PM - 29 April, 2015

So RCF Art 745-AS with the 8004, (the others are too big), remember I only have this much space - www.djjohnnym.com

6 3:55 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'll get to that in a minute...

it's been 7 minuets already!

You sure it's not been "Sixxx" minutes already?

Like I said, don't let folks see your eyes waterin' up mayne....

Hahahaha

time for the meds I tell ha

nm

Joee 4:05 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

So RCF Art 745-AS with the 8004, (the others are too big), remember I only have this much space - www.djjohnnym.com

that would be a killer system ask DJ Guiayo he just bought two 8004 he said

"my neighbors live 70 yard away & they come over to complain about the bass"

Quote:

Hahahaha

time for the meds I tell ha

nm

awww poor baby feels left out? i got you chix……..

HOW YOU DOIN? Chixxx! hows your day going?

carry on Ma'am

:-)

6 4:23 PM - 29 April, 2015

Time for meds in the playground. And probably a diaper change too Lol

nm

Joee 4:27 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Time for meds in the playground. And probably a diaper change too Lol

nm

you do what you gotta do, i'm not mad at you playa …..just remember not to throw that diaper away in the recycling bin & drink some water it helps the meds go down easier

;-)

6 4:30 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Time for meds in the playground. And probably a diaper change too Lol

nm

you do what you gotta do, i'm not mad at you playa …..just remember not to throw that diaper away in the recycling bin & drink some water it helps the meds go down easier

;-)

Would have liked to see a better come back. At least a funny one. But, hey. BABY STEPS.

nm

Joee 4:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Would have liked to see a better come back. At least a funny one. But, hey. BABY STEPS.

nm

*****Yawn*****

keep trying Troll

pdidy 4:51 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS with the rcf8004 sub

If I were buying today this would be my choice.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:59 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS with the rcf8004 sub

If I were buying today this would be my choice.

Very Intrusting...

Why the Art 745-AS over the EV ZXA5?

You may have answered that question in the past, but we're in the home stretch, wanna see if everything is still consistent or if the planets have lined up differently...

Joee 5:01 PM - 29 April, 2015

pssst

A'Yo Johnny, get them RCF's man

Joee 5:02 PM - 29 April, 2015

zxa5 vs 745

745 bigger voice coil has built in dsp also has limiter all things that zxa5 don't have

DJ Guayo 5:09 PM - 29 April, 2015

Watch www.youtube.com

This thing rocks. I opted for the HD32a. I have the production crew drop off, setup, and pick up my gear though. They have a truck with a drop lift.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:10 PM - 29 April, 2015

I know, but that thing is mad ugly yo...

But keep 'em coming...

So as far as BRANDING, we have -

RCF Art 745-AS with the rcf8004 sub

EV ZXA5 and ETX18SP

And JBL <What standalone 2 way box again? > and VRX918SP subs

No Yamaha, or Yorkville suggestions from people who actually HAVE the boxes?

Joee 5:11 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Watch www.youtube.com

This thing rocks. I opted for the HD32a. I have the production crew drop off, setup, and pick up my gear though. They have a truck with a drop lift.

yo i thought you were talking about both of them when you said the neighbor live 60 yards away & came over to complain about the bass

that was only one! Damn!!!!!!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:11 PM - 29 April, 2015

RCF Art 745-AS vs HD32a?

Joee 5:18 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And JBL <What standalone 2 way box again? > and VRX918SP subs

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

Quote:

Yorkville

yorkville.com

yorkville.com

Quote:

Yamaha

usa.yamaha.com

usa.yamaha.com

Joee 5:19 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS vs HD32a?

well the hd32 looks better than the 745……i will tell you the fd12/hd12 have a nice bass for a 12"

i will be getting some soon……just taking me longer than i thought buying other stuff instead

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:20 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Watch www.youtube.com

This thing rocks. I opted for the HD32a. I have the production crew drop off, setup, and pick up my gear though. They have a truck with a drop lift.

yo i thought you were talking about both of them when you said the neighbor live 60 yards away & came over to complain about the bass

that was only one! Damn!!!!!!

I'on know man, I used two Peavey SP5's this weekend at a wedding where the reception (and wedding) were outside...

My boy gave them too me, I had NO IDEA there were 400 Watts RMS -

www.musiciansfriend.com

Joee 5:22 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'on know man, I used two Peavey SP5's this weekend at a wedding where the reception (and wedding) were outside...

My boy gave them too me, I had NO IDEA there were 400 Watts RMS -

www.musiciansfriend.com

but they weren't complaining about the bass? just that the music was to loud?

pdidy 5:22 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Why the Art 745-AS over the EV ZXA5?

"Ease of use", Is something that most people wish they had but By the time they figure it out, it's too late.

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS vs HD32a?

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:24 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And JBL <What standalone 2 way box again? > and VRX918SP subs

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

Here you go AGAIN....

Didn't I say 2 way speaker combo and Sub?

Where's Sixxx at?

He must have you flustered....

DJ Guayo 5:24 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Why the Art 745-AS over the EV ZXA5?

"Ease of use", Is something that most people wish they had but By the time they figure it out, it's too late.

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS vs HD32a?

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

Someone needs to come up with an after market grill for the 745... lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:26 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I'on know man, I used two Peavey SP5's this weekend at a wedding where the reception (and wedding) were outside...

My boy gave them too me, I had NO IDEA there were 400 Watts RMS -

www.musiciansfriend.com

but they weren't complaining about the bass? just that the music was to loud?

Where did dude say his neighbors were complaining about the bass?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:26 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Why the Art 745-AS over the EV ZXA5?

"Ease of use", Is something that most people wish they had but By the time they figure it out, it's too late.

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS vs HD32a?

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

Someone needs to come up with an after market grill for the 745... lol

THIS!!!!

Joee 5:27 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Here you go AGAIN....

Didn't I say 2 way speaker combo and Sub?

Where's Sixxx at?

He must have you flustered..

lol, i just had to trow that one in there it most likely sh!ts on even the zxa5 it's cheaper & it's only 77lbs

Joee 5:28 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Where did dude say his neighbors were complaining about the bass?

you right

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:28 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Here you go AGAIN....

Didn't I say 2 way speaker combo and Sub?

Where's Sixxx at?

He must have you flustered..

lol, i just had to trow that one in there it most likely sh!ts on even the zxa5 it's cheaper & it's only 77lbs

No, stick to the TOPIC!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:29 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Why the Art 745-AS over the EV ZXA5?

"Ease of use", Is something that most people wish they had but By the time they figure it out, it's too late.

Quote:

RCF Art 745-AS vs HD32a?

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

Now Joee, you see that?

STRAIGHT ANSWERS....lol...

DJ Guayo 5:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

Johnny, this was my first review from another thread....

Hey fam,

I recently purchased a pair of RCF HD32 and pair of RCF 8004 and wanted to give my review. I'm coming from a pair of QSC KW 152. I'm only familiar with setups with tops and not subs.

I first tested the system with one top and one bottom (I had the NEMA 15-20 plugs) in the garage. I had my brother in law and a friend and they were amazed at the CLEAN and LOUD output. Highs, mids, and bass. I ran everything at 12 o'clock and used the subs built in crossover. The neighbor came in less than 5 minutes and complained about the bass. I live on a half acre lot and they neighbor is about 60 to 70 yards across from my garage. I also scared the crap out of my baby girl (1 month) in the house.

I had a prom on Friday and I finally tested both tops and bottoms running at the same time. I was able to couple the subs and pole mounted the tops (room setup didnt allow different configuration). This setup brought club level to 250-300 kids. Bass hit hard all night. i had plenty of headroom available it I wanted to go louder.

I was only able to get a proper sound level (room full of kids) a handful of times. However, the staff and chaperons did complain about the bass and how it 'shook' them.

I didn't get a chance to take a picture of the setup.

i1004.photobucket.com

i1004.photobucket.com

i1004.photobucket.com

i1004.photobucket.com

I will have a video and setup picture soon.

WarpNote 5:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Watch www.youtube.com

This thing rocks. I opted for the HD32a. I have the production crew drop off, setup, and pick up my gear though. They have a truck with a drop lift.

Watch www.youtube.com

Joee 5:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

No, stick to the TOPIC!

but i'm saying tho, you won't even need a sub wit them jawns…..lol

Quote:

Now Joee, you see that?

STRAIGHT ANSWERS....lol...

umm i did give you a straight answer

Quote:

zxa5 vs 745

745 bigger voice coil has built in dsp also has limiter all things that zxa5 don't have

DJ Guayo 5:36 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Watch www.youtube.com

This thing rocks. I opted for the HD32a. I have the production crew drop off, setup, and pick up my gear though. They have a truck with a drop lift.

Watch www.youtube.com

lulz... you dont realize it until after when recording from a phone.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:38 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Johnny, this was my first review from another thread....

Hey fam,

I recently purchased a pair of RCF HD32 and pair of RCF 8004 and wanted to give my review. I'm coming from a pair of QSC KW 152. I'm only familiar with setups with tops and not subs.

I first tested the system with one top and one bottom (I had the NEMA 15-20 plugs) in the garage. I had my brother in law and a friend and they were amazed at the CLEAN and LOUD output. Highs, mids, and bass. I ran everything at 12 o'clock and used the subs built in crossover. The neighbor came in less than 5 minutes and complained about the bass. I live on a half acre lot and they neighbor is about 60 to 70 yards across from my garage. I also scared the crap out of my baby girl (1 month) in the house.

I had a prom on Friday and I finally tested both tops and bottoms running at the same time. I was able to couple the subs and pole mounted the tops (room setup didnt allow different configuration). This setup brought club level to 250-300 kids. Bass hit hard all night. i had plenty of headroom available it I wanted to go louder.

I was only able to get a proper sound level (room full of kids) a handful of times. However, the staff and chaperons did complain about the bass and how it 'shook' them.

I didn't get a chance to take a picture of the setup.

i1004.photobucket.com

i1004.photobucket.com

i1004.photobucket.com

i1004.photobucket.com

I will have a video and setup picture soon.

Thank you kindly sir!

But I just want to be clear if it was JUST a 2 Way / Sub combo -

Quote:

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

Does that still ring true?

As I anticipate a lot of "Small" functions...

WarpNote 5:40 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

lulz... you dont realize it until after when recording from a phone.

Next time you will, the screen/viewfinder is just in front of you :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:41 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

but i'm saying tho, you won't even need a sub wit them jawns…..lol

And what about those small Quick jawns I want to do?

Stick to the TOPIC! lol.

And stop stealing my way of speaking...

Half the time I see you typing, I'm thinking it's me...

Joee 5:44 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

And stop stealing my way of speaking...

man i'm from philly ,we use the word jawn

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:47 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

zxa5 vs 745

745 bigger voice coil has built in dsp also has limiter all things that zxa5 don't have

These are some of the deciding factors for me...

The reason why I'm asking for Brand Specific matchups is that I might get into RENTING some of this stuff...so Uniformity in Branding is important...

I will also need the ability to quickly jockey some of these SMALL speakers up quick flights of steps if need be, for cheesy events, so the 3 WAY cab is out.

Now we already know that you can't rent out ZXA5's all willy nilly...cuz they ain't for errybody...

THIS is why I was looking for the Brand Matchups as well....but with the conditions of

a 2 WAY Cab with a 15" woofer...and adding a MATCHING sub when I need to Turn Up The Bass

Please continue....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:47 PM - 29 April, 2015

BTW, when I turn up the BASS, I won't be jockeying up any stairs...lmao.

Joee 5:58 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I will also need the ability to quickly jockey some of these SMALL speakers up quick flights of steps if need be

745 is 43lbs

Quote:

I might get into RENTING some of this stuff

defiantly don't want the zxa5 for that as it has no limitor protection

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:00 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

745 is 43lbs

Versus....?????

Joee 6:00 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

745 "jawn" is 43lbs

Quote:

defiantly don't want the zxa5 "jawns" for that as it has no limitor protection

fixed

Joee 6:00 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Versus....?????

zxa5 50lbs

Joee 6:01 PM - 29 April, 2015

& all the other mentioned ev jbl jawns are over 60lbs the yamaha are like 70lbs the yorks are heavy also

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:25 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Versus....?????

zxa5 50lbs

Hmmm.....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:26 PM - 29 April, 2015

lol @ stealing my werd...

Joee 6:28 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

Versus....?????

zxa5 50lbs

Hmmm.....

stop trolling me son

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745 is 43lbs

Versus....?????

you know what i forgot, you need to hit up desmorider i believe he did a side by side comparison wit the zxa5 vs 745

Joee 6:35 PM - 29 April, 2015

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lol @ stealing my werd...

listen son, the word jawn is a philly word son……it's a noun used to describe a person place or thing

when are you going to pick up that jawn (phone) make the call to purchase them new jawns (speakers) …or better yet go to the jawn (store) and pick them up in person

now the person aspect can only be used when speaking about the opposite sex

man my jawn (girl) said you got them jawns (speakers) too loud turn them down

Joee 6:45 PM - 29 April, 2015

@ JM, peep this jawn
massappeal.com

www.myfoxphilly.com

www.urbandictionary.com

www.urbandictionary.com

matadornetwork.com

i can go on for days wit these jawns ……your actually stealing my word……lol

pdidy 7:06 PM - 29 April, 2015

If renting or allowing other djs on a Ev zxa5 ,a small rack and processor will forever be joined at the hip even when no subs are required for safety ...... This is my rack. rs26.pbsrc.com

pdidy 7:07 PM - 29 April, 2015

^^^^ which of course falls under ease of use.

Taipanic 7:30 PM - 29 April, 2015

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I know you want 2 way, but if you really want stand alone 15's just get the ETX-35 with the ETX-18SP.

Big heavy rig but it's loud as hell & your tops stand well on their own.

This is really where you want to be, especially with the music & crowd you play to.
The ETX series will be loud enough but better than the ZXa5s due to the processing & protection. The subs even have cardoid mode where you can eliminate boom from behind the subs - very nice if you are playing banquet rooms at big hotels.

The ZXa5s are awesome, I own a pair, but my money would now be on the ETX series if I were buying today, most likely the ETX-35p and 3-4 of the 18" subs.

Joee 7:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

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but my money would now be on the ETX series if I were buying today, most likely the ETX-35p and 3-4 of the 18" subs.

i tried to tell him etx……having all that built in DSP

Joee 7:33 PM - 29 April, 2015

not to mention he already heard the etx15p & liked it

DJ GaFFle 7:38 PM - 29 April, 2015

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RCF Art 745-AS with the rcf8004 sub

If I were buying today this would be my choice.

... or this is a nice and different alternative: Watch www.youtube.com ... very sexy looking setup there and it stands out with that appeal. (think weddings) No other DJ is running a setup like this and you'll stand out.

I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Quote:

This is really where you want to be, especially with the music & crowd you play to.
The ETX series will be loud enough but better than the ZXa5s due to the processing & protection. The subs even have cardoid mode where you can eliminate boom from behind the subs - very nice if you are playing banquet rooms at big hotels.

The ZXa5s are awesome, I own a pair, but my money would now be on the ETX series if I were buying today, most likely the ETX-35p and 3-4 of the 18" subs.

I already tried to steer him down the 3-way powered (ETX or SRX) top route. He's not with it due to their size. In sound quality, they'll crush pretty much any 2-way...

Joee 7:45 PM - 29 April, 2015

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. or this is a nice and different alternative: Watch www.youtube.com ... very sexy looking setup there and it stands out with that appeal. (think weddings) No other DJ is running a setup like this and you'll stand out.

i showed it to him,he doesn't want it ……he's looking for a stand alone that has nice bass, they say that the nx24 has nice bass ……so they say

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:10 PM - 29 April, 2015

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I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Really Pdidy?

DJ GaFFle 8:27 PM - 29 April, 2015

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. or this is a nice and different alternative: Watch www.youtube.com ... very sexy looking setup there and it stands out with that appeal. (think weddings) No other DJ is running a setup like this and you'll stand out.

i showed it to him,he doesn't want it ……he's looking for a stand alone that has nice bass, they say that the nx24 has nice bass ……so they say

I spoke to the guy Watch www.youtube.com and he said these NX L24A's are pretty incredible. From personal experience, he says they sound better than both the QSC KW152 and KW153. He's yet to limit them, their throw is great, and they have 120 degrees of dispersion which can be awesome for wedding events but tedious for the stage (mic ringing needed). He usually runs them in front of stage to simplify things. He was also a big fan of their waveguide with only 5 degrees of vertical dispersion (keeps all the sound focused on the dance floor). The biggest "con" he mentioned would be that he'd pretty much only recommend them with a sub. He feels a good typical 2-way 15" top will have a little more bottom. Overall, he feels these definitely get louder and clearer than most 2-way 15" tops at your local GC.

And Johnny... he confirmed that the RCF8004A's are some of the most powerful single 18" powered bass-reflex subs out there. The KW181's, ETX18SP's, SRX818's, and PRX718XLF's of the world are not in their league.

:-) And you know I had to go next level and mention Danley stuff. He's heard the Danley SM80's a couple of times and said the NX L24's don't even come close... in loudness, clarity, or output. He liked the NX L24's better because he can array (double-stack) them, they're powered and offer a little more versatility with setups.

RCF man... RCF.

Joee 8:29 PM - 29 April, 2015

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I spoke to the guy Watch www.youtube.com and he said these NX L24A's are pretty incredible. From personal experience, he says they sound better than both the QSC KW152 and KW153.

wow……. i want them now…….lol

Joee 8:32 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

I spoke to the guy Watch www.youtube.com and he said these NX L24A's are pretty incredible. From personal experience, he says they sound better than both the QSC KW152 and KW153.

wow……. i want them now…….lol

pdidy 8:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

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I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Really Pdidy?

Yes, my vrx918sp is in close competition with the RCF 800(3). The RCF 800(4) was designed to go lower and louder than both aforementioned subs.

Joee 9:04 PM - 29 April, 2015

@pdidy

you see what you started, i will admit now i'm looking @ the 8004……lol

pdidy 9:30 PM - 29 April, 2015

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@pdidy

you see what you started, i will admit now i'm looking @ the 8004……lol

considering your current system and weight preferences you have no use for that sub.
once the honey moon phase is over you will be like wtf i buy this for an sell it like the lighter vrx918sp.

Joee 9:50 PM - 29 April, 2015

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Isn't that over 70 lbs, Joe?

lol….yes 112lbs

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@pdidy

you see what you started, i will admit now i'm looking @ the 8004……lol

considering your current system and weight preferences you have no use for that sub.
once the honey moon phase is over you will be like wtf i buy this for an sell it like the lighter vrx918sp.

lmao……i know, i won't buy it it just to heavy for me

i just went downstairs & lifted my 905 (70lbs) & my fd (36lbs) @ the same time & it brought me back to reality ……i'm good i'd rather get two more 905………..lol

6 10:02 PM - 29 April, 2015

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And JBL <What standalone 2 way box again? > and VRX918SP subs

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

www.jblpro.com

Here you go AGAIN....

Didn't I say 2 way speaker combo and Sub?

Where's Sixxx at?

He must have you flustered....

lol

nm

6 10:05 PM - 29 April, 2015

Hey Johnny.

You can't expect a straight answer from Joeee. We all know why.

lol

nm

Joee 10:21 PM - 29 April, 2015

wpmu.mah.se

s1285.photobucket.com

the resemblance is astonishing

you know for all the lol'ing lmao & hahhaha you do on the board you sure do look miserable in real life, why do you look so mad in your dj promo pic?

6 10:36 PM - 29 April, 2015

lol @ DJ promo picture

From 2006

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

Funniest thing is you've made this how long ago and just barely used it?

The obsession is real. You keep pics of the people you're obsessed with.

Like I said... Never a STRAIGHT answer and we all know why.

:)

nm

Joee 10:39 PM - 29 April, 2015

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lol @ DJ promo picture

From 2006

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

Funniest thing is you've made this how long ago and just barely used it?

The obsession is real. You keep pics of the people you're obsessed with.

Like I said... Never a STRAIGHT answer and we all know why.

:)

nm

*****P.diddy voice******

take that.take that
dt3.sites.olt.ubc.ca

6 10:40 PM - 29 April, 2015

lmao!!!

You're the one who does lots of weddings (lol)

It would be so easy to find pics of you. Only one problem though.

I'm not obsessed with you.

hahahaha

nm

Joee 10:40 PM - 29 April, 2015

^

Quote:

*****P.diddy voice******

take that.take that
dt3.sites.olt.ubc.ca

6 10:42 PM - 29 April, 2015

The obsession

Is

Real

creepy. Very creepy

nm

6 10:44 PM - 29 April, 2015

I remember that time when you went to my website and checked all my links.

Oh wait. That wasn't long ago. Mad you couldn't have access to any pics there?

lol

That is obsession at its finest.

Oh wait. How about the time you found a review I posted.

Hahaha

Shows how pathetic and obsessed you are.

;)

nm

Joee 10:46 PM - 29 April, 2015

Quote:

^

Quote:

*****P.diddy voice******

take that.take that
dt3.sites.olt.ubc.ca

6 10:46 PM - 29 April, 2015

;-)

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:37 PM - 29 April, 2015

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And Johnny... he confirmed that the RCF8004A's are some of the most powerful single 18" powered bass-reflex subs out there. The KW181's, ETX18SP's, SRX818's, and PRX718XLF's of the world are not in their league.

:-) And you know I had to go next level and mention Danley stuff. He's heard the Danley SM80's a couple of times and said the NX L24's don't even come close... in loudness, clarity, or output. He liked the NX L24's better because he can array (double-stack) them, they're powered and offer a little more versatility with setups.

RCF man... RCF.

Oh, I've been in LOVE with RCF, but their older stuff. My old Sonic Bins were loaded with RCF's, so trust me....I'm in love with the co...I mean the RCF's...

But this parts issue......man....I'm gonna check with my speaker dude again to see if anything has changed, but now I have to consider the size of the subs as well...

They gotta fit in the ride!

Joee 11:47 PM - 29 April, 2015

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I'm in love with the co...

let me find out thats why you had them long fingernails

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But this parts issue......man....I'm gonna check with my speaker dude again

check wit my dude……tell him what you heard & want to verify because it's a deciding factor in your purchase

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They gotta fit in the ride!

they will fit

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:57 PM - 29 April, 2015

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I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Really Pdidy?

Yes, my vrx918sp is in close competition with the RCF 800(3). The RCF 800(4) was designed to go lower and louder than both aforementioned subs.

So the RCF 8003 is equivalent or better than the VRX918SP?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:59 PM - 29 April, 2015

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check wit my dude……tell him what you heard & want to verify because it's a deciding factor in your purchase

Quote:

They gotta fit in the ride!

they will fit

Of COURSE your dude is gonna vouch, that's a few extra grand in his interest...lol...

Stop playin...

DJ GaFFle 12:03 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I'm in love with the co...

let me find out thats why you had them long fingernails

Bwuahahaha!

Quote:

But this parts issue......man....I'm gonna check with my speaker dude again

check wit my dude……tell him what you heard & want to verify because it's a deciding factor in your purchase

Man... as popular as RCF's are and as solid as their equipment is, parts replacement "with RCF" would be null on "my" list when searching for a solid and lasting PA sound solution. How often do you hear about them blowing up or failing?

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So the RCF 8003 is equivalent or better than the VRX918SP?

Don't... do... it...

No... baby... steps...

Think RCF 8004 and blow the doors off your competition. :-)

Joee 12:07 AM - 30 April, 2015

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Of COURSE your dude is gonna vouch, that's a few extra grand in his interest...lol...

Stop playin...

man listen they tell it like it is, your still spending your money no mater what brand you get …right?…….so he's making money either way

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Man... as popular as RCF's are and as solid as their equipment is, parts replacement "with RCF" would be null on "my" list when searching for a solid and lasting PA sound solution. How often do you hear about them blowing up or failing?

WORD………..

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Don't... do... it...

No... baby... steps...

Think RCF 8004 and blow the doors off your competition. :-)

say WORD again! ……… WORD, you will notice i never recommended the 8003, not that it's not a good sub

Joee 12:07 AM - 30 April, 2015

so JM did the tax man get there yet?

pdidy 12:11 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Really Pdidy?

Yes, my vrx918sp is in close competition with the RCF 800(3). The RCF 800(4) was designed to go lower and louder than both aforementioned subs.

So the RCF 8003 is equivalent or better than the VRX918SP?

No they are more similar than they are different so to call either a WINNER would be nitpicking. I personally prefer the VRX because it goes lower and its lighter while the rcf goes a lil louder.

pdidy 12:42 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Don't... do... it...

No... baby... steps...

Think RCF 8004 and blow the doors off your competition. :-)

i agree, I would put you so far ahead of the game that 5+ years from now you will still be relevant and killing the mid level consumer subs that most djs use......

For example, the jbl vrx918sp and vrx932sp top was introduced 7 years ago in 2008. It was so far ahead of its time that its still kickin major ass today.

At this rate its guaranteed a life span of 10+ years while remaining relevant in style, design and performance.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:43 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Really Pdidy?

Yes, my vrx918sp is in close competition with the RCF 800(3). The RCF 800(4) was designed to go lower and louder than both aforementioned subs.

So the RCF 8003 is equivalent or better than the VRX918SP?

No they are more similar than they are different so to call either a WINNER would be nitpicking. I personally prefer the VRX because it goes lower and its lighter while the rcf goes a lil louder.

Roger that...

I ain't spending 3 g's on a single sub...

Joee, 8003 price?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:45 AM - 30 April, 2015

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so JM did the tax man get there yet?

The tax man BEEN dropped off the funds and bounced...

I'm waiting on the refinance check - this week to add to it, and indulge in the fact that I won't have to make a mortgage payment until June.... :-D.

***takethattakethat****

DJ GaFFle 12:48 AM - 30 April, 2015

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No they are more similar than they are different so to call either a WINNER would be nitpicking. I personally prefer the VRX because it goes lower and its lighter while the rcf goes a lil louder.

So here, JBL wins (IMO)... they're a more "tour-worthy" built speaker and with those other factors being "similar", plus the fact that the JBL is 23 lbs lighter, tilts the balance to their favor.

Now, as far as the RCF 8004AS:

RCF 8004AS = (30-120Hz) (136dB) (112 lbs) (7.89 ft³)
JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (126dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³)
EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³)
JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³)

* This "may" be full-space or flown specs so add +6dB for half space.

Do you realize RCF 8004AS is smaller in dimension than the competition, YET goes several Hz lower and louder than the best of the others above? Man that RCF...

Quote:

Roger that...

I ain't spending 3 g's on a single sub...

I've read they can be in the $2400 each range. Ask Joee to ask his plug...

Joee 12:49 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Roger that...

I ain't spending 3 g's on a single sub...

Joee, 8003 price?

you can get a brand new 8004 for around $2,200 shipped b-stock is even cheaper…..now the 8003 …….i think b-stocks are less than $1,200, new well under $1,500

DJ GaFFle 12:51 AM - 30 April, 2015

... and do like that other dude on this forum did. Save some money on your top choice by choosing a solid but very nice RCF HD32A pair and "splurge" in the bass dept. for the 8004AS's.

DJ GaFFle 12:52 AM - 30 April, 2015

Man... Joee got the connects!

Joee 12:53 AM - 30 April, 2015

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... and do like that other dude on this forum did. Save some money on your top choice by choosing a solid but very nice RCF HD32A pair and "splurge" in the bass dept. for the 8004AS's.

i tried to tell him gaf…….he don't want to listen

Joee 12:53 AM - 30 April, 2015

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Man... Joee got the connects!

you want me to get that dan pricing………lol

Joee 12:55 AM - 30 April, 2015

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Man... Joee got the connects!

and FYI, i get all my serato peoples those same hook ups…..ask JM

pdidy 1:02 AM - 30 April, 2015

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Do you realize RCF 8004AS is smaller in dimension than the competition, YET goes several Hz lower and louder than the best of the others above?

ok now that comes as a surprise, I naturally assume it had to be BIGGER than a VRX to preform that well.

Joee 1:06 AM - 30 April, 2015

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Do you realize RCF 8004AS is smaller in dimension than the competition, YET goes several Hz lower and louder than the best of the others above?

ok now that comes as a surprise, I naturally assume it had to be BIGGER than a VRX to preform that well.

vrx

Dimensions
(H x W x D)
(20.0 in x 23.5 in x 29.5 in)

8004

Height: 22.56 /inch
Width:21.95 /inch
Depth:27.56 /inch

Joee 1:08 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

***takethattakethat****

stop feeding the troll, you see he left after i hit him wit this jawn
dt3.sites.olt.ubc.ca

desmorider 1:48 AM - 30 April, 2015

Dj Johnny1-son,

Why buy $1200-$1300 boxes to rent out. Do you think that the average person that will rent them from you would notice the difference between a zlx, elx, or etx. Why not buy some $500-$700 boxes to rent out, and let them pay for themselves over and over again. I would say check out the yamaha lines for rentals dxr, and dbr if for rental. Dsr if for you. The only drawback to the yamahas is the subs are suppose to be a little weak.

If I was getting into the rental game I would buy a grip of shit like the zlx, or dbr series boxes ($300-$400 boxes), pimped them shits hard and let them make tha Guac. Hell the GC around me rent QSC kw152's and Kw181 for $40 bux per box. $160 for two subs, and two tops. I wouldn't let my main tops that I play on go out for $40 bux each. Just not worth the chance of someone abusing them. Maybe if I was present at the gig. I wouldn't think twice about letting a few zlx's, dbr's, or any $300-$400 box go out unsupervised. Hell in 10 gigs they would be paid for.

desmorider 1:59 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I hear that RCF 8004AS sub is no joke! PDidy already bowed down his VRX918SP's to it.

Really Pdidy?

Yes, my vrx918sp is in close competition with the RCF 800(3). The RCF 800(4) was designed to go lower and louder than both aforementioned subs.

So the RCF 8003 is equivalent or better than the VRX918SP?

No they are more similar than they are different so to call either a WINNER would be nitpicking. I personally prefer the VRX because it goes lower and its lighter while the rcf goes a lil louder.

Roger that...

I ain't spending 3 g's on a single sub...

Joee, 8003 price?

new 8004 is $1999. You can get b stock cheaper.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:00 AM - 30 April, 2015

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RCF 8004AS = (30-120Hz) (136dB) (112 lbs) (7.89 ft³)
JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (126dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³)
EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³)
JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³)

That ETX is heavy man....hmmm.....

pdidy 2:01 AM - 30 April, 2015

@ desmorider, not that kinda rental.....

Im pretty sure he's refering about acting as a sound provider and will be present at the event acting as a sound man if there are other djs.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:01 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Roger that...

I ain't spending 3 g's on a single sub...

Joee, 8003 price?

you can get a brand new 8004 for around $2,200 shipped b-stock is even cheaper…..now the 8003 …….i think b-stocks are less than $1,200, new well under $1,500

What is "B" stock?

pdidy 2:03 AM - 30 April, 2015

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new 8004 is $1999. You can get b stock cheaper.

oh really, where......PAS ?

desmorider 2:04 AM - 30 April, 2015

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@ desmorider, not that kinda rental.....

Im pretty sure he's refering about acting as a sound provider and will be present at the event acting as a sound man if there are other djs.

Word. Just checking. I know your on the set when the vrx rig is out, correct?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:05 AM - 30 April, 2015

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... and do like that other dude on this forum did. Save some money on your top choice by choosing a solid but very nice RCF HD32A pair and "splurge" in the bass dept. for the 8004AS's.

Why does everyone keep pushing the HD32A if this is the case?

Quote:

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:05 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

@ desmorider, not that kinda rental.....

Im pretty sure he's refering about acting as a sound provider and will be present at the event acting as a sound man if there are other djs.

Man, you already KNOW......

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:07 AM - 30 April, 2015

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (126dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³)
JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³)

So the SRX818SP out performs the VRX918SP...

Price of the SRX818SP? lol...Like I can afford it....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:10 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

If I was getting into the rental game

Hole, up...I'm not going FULL BLOWN, lol...

But what I EXPECT to happen is since I'll have the banging system, cats will want me to do sound, on a smaller scale than most, but bigger than what THEY have...

Just looking at ways to get the most out of these pieces...

desmorider 2:12 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (126dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³)
JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³)

So the SRX818SP out performs the VRX918SP...

Price of the SRX818SP? lol...Like I can afford it....

$1200-$1300

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:14 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (126dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³)

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³)

So the SRX818SP out performs the VRX918SP...

Price of the SRX818SP? lol...Like I can afford it....

$1200-$1300

You sure? I thought the VRX918SP was 1500...

You're saying the SRX818SP WHICH PERFORMS BETTER is lower in price?

desmorider 2:17 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (126dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³)

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³)

So the SRX818SP out performs the VRX918SP...

Price of the SRX818SP? lol...Like I can afford it....

$1200-$1300

You sure? I thought the VRX918SP was 1500...

You're saying the SRX818SP WHICH PERFORMS BETTER is lower in price?

Fuckz No I ain't saying that they perform better. Don't get caught up in the numbers Bruh. They are just that most times just hype and numbers. I just gave you one of the things you asked for, the price.

desmorider 2:19 AM - 30 April, 2015

Someone on here said that they don't live up to the hype. I haven't seen/heard them yet. I know they got some fishy shit going on with the specs. If I were a betting man, fuck which I am my money would be on the proven/tested and trusted vrx918sp.

pdidy 2:20 AM - 30 April, 2015

RCF 8004AS = (30-120Hz) (136dB) (112 lbs) (7.89 ft³) Reliable SPL
JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (132dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³) Measured SPL (factual)
EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³) Fake SPL
JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³) Fake SPL

Fixed

desmorider 2:22 AM - 30 April, 2015

I thought you were getting VEGA to make them 1-of-1 Djjohny1 tops and bottoms. Let dem balls swing and place dat order with VEGA.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:23 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

RCF 8004AS = (30-120Hz) (136dB) (112 lbs) (7.89 ft³) Reliable SPL

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (132dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³) Measured SPL (factual)

EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³) Fake SPL

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³) Fake SPL

Fixed

lol, ok....

But still 114 lbs? Man listen...

desmorider 2:25 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

RCF 8004AS = (30-120Hz) (136dB) (112 lbs) (7.89 ft³) Reliable SPL

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (132dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³) Measured SPL (factual)

EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³) Fake SPL

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³) Fake SPL

Fixed

lol, ok....

But still 114 lbs? Man listen...

Man Listen.

Hit dat gym. Do dem Roids son.......

pdidy 2:29 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³) Fake SPL

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³) Fake SPL

If I were a betting man I would say subtract 6db from the EV ETX an JBL SRX spl to get the real numbers.

desmorider 2:31 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³) Fake SPL

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³) Fake SPL

If I were a betting man I would say subtract 6db from the EV ETX an JBL SRX spl to get the real numbers.

No shit. You get what I sent you?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:32 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I thought you were getting VEGA to make them 1-of-1 Djjohny1 tops and bottoms. Let dem balls swing and place dat order with VEGA.

Man, I'm about to scrap ALL of this and just roll with my Peavey SP5's!

My dude GAVE them to me, and I was using them as my Office/Studio speakers, but since I got a new ride, the Vegas wont' fit in the Explorer, so I used the SP5's since it was only a wedding with about no more than 60 people, and them jawns were ROARING....

I was like WTF? Never "really" checked the specs of them and lo and behold, they are 400 Watts RMS - CONTINUOUS...

I was powering them with a QSC 1500a which is 350 Watts @ 8 Ohms...and was getting "Nervous" when the clip light would hit on some beats...thinking I was rocking a 200 Watt throwaway speaker...

AND it's pole mountable?

I need a bigger amp....

Shoot even the V35's were only rated at 300 Watts RMS...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:33 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

RCF 8004AS = (30-120Hz) (136dB) (112 lbs) (7.89 ft³) Reliable SPL

JBL VRX918SP = (34-220Hz) (132dB*) (85 lbs) (8.02 ft³) Measured SPL (factual)

EV ETX 18SP = (33-150Hz) (135dB) (114 lbs) (11.92 ft³) Fake SPL

JBL SRX818SP = (35-120Hz) (135dB) (87 lbs) (9.47 ft³) Fake SPL

Fixed

lol, ok....

But still 114 lbs? Man listen...

Man Listen.

Hit dat gym. Do dem Roids son.......

Trust, I've been lifting heavy speakers and crates for DECADES now...

Time to chill...

desmorider 2:35 AM - 30 April, 2015

I gotta stop tracking this thread. My iphone got like 100 something messages today just on this thread. When Joee and 6 start going back and forth in a thread, my shits blowing up. They respond to each other within seconds. It's like the have some kind of tender ass DJ Bro-mance shit going on. I'm just saying. The shit is kind of entertaining.

desmorider 2:39 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I thought you were getting VEGA to make them 1-of-1 Djjohny1 tops and bottoms. Let dem balls swing and place dat order with VEGA.

Man, I'm about to scrap ALL of this and just roll with my Peavey SP5's!

My dude GAVE them to me, and I was using them as my Office/Studio speakers, but since I got a new ride, the Vegas wont' fit in the Explorer, so I used the SP5's since it was only a wedding with about no more than 60 people, and them jawns were ROARING....

I was like WTF? Never "really" checked the specs of them and lo and behold, they are 400 Watts RMS - CONTINUOUS...

I was powering them with a QSC 1500a which is 350 Watts @ 8 Ohms...and was getting "Nervous" when the clip light would hit on some beats...thinking I was rocking a 200 Watt throwaway speaker...

AND it's pole mountable?

I need a bigger amp....

Shoot even the V35's were only rated at 300 Watts RMS...

Find a used enclosed trailer on Craigslist, so you don't mess up the fly ass interior on that new explorer. Get Djjohnny1 tagged on the side of that shit in some CANDY FLIP FLOP PAINT son.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I gotta stop tracking this thread. My iphone got like 100 something messages today just on this thread. When Joee and 6 start going back and forth in a thread, my shits blowing up. They respond to each other within seconds. It's like the have some kind of tender ass DJ Bro-mance shit going on. I'm just saying. The shit is kind of entertaining.

They spar from time to time.....

I'm working on Joee's focus, because he can easily be distracted and not stick to the subject matter..

He's in training to be a better debater....

FOCUS JOEE FOCUS......

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:43 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Find a used enclosed trailer on Craigslist, so you don't mess up the fly ass interior on that new explorer. .

DUDE, you may have a point, because even though the SP5's were carpeted, it DID leave a 1/4 inch scratch on the inside of my jawn, and I was NOT pleased...

I can just imagine what some subs would do...but that trailer might be the answer to ALL my problems...

STAY TUNED!

desmorider 2:49 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Find a used enclosed trailer on Craigslist, so you don't mess up the fly ass interior on that new explorer. .

DUDE, you may have a point, because even though the SP5's were carpeted, it DID leave a 1/4 inch scratch on the inside of my jawn, and I was NOT pleased...

I can just imagine what some subs would do...but that trailer might be the answer to ALL my problems...

STAY TUNED!

No matter how careful you are, loading in and out of your nice ride, the shit will get scuffed up.

DJ GaFFle 3:20 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

... and do like that other dude on this forum did. Save some money on your top choice by choosing a solid but very nice RCF HD32A pair and "splurge" in the bass dept. for the 8004AS's.

Why does everyone keep pushing the HD32A if this is the case?

Quote:

If standalone is priority then the RCF Art 745-AS the clear winner.

Because you're complaining about RCF 8004A dollar$ being too much. I was just throwing out a lower cost alternative to the ZXA5's to balance things out. You're talking about Peaveys now though so I'll bow out.

6 3:37 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I gotta stop tracking this thread. My iphone got like 100 something messages today just on this thread. When Joee and 6 start going back and forth in a thread, my shits blowing up. They respond to each other within seconds. It's like the have some kind of tender ass DJ Bro-mance shit going on. I'm just saying. The shit is kind of entertaining.

They spar from time to time.....

I'm working on Joee's focus, because he can easily be distracted and not stick to the subject matter..

He's in training to be a better debater....

FOCUS JOEE FOCUS......

You can train a monkey with an IQ of 50 a lot faster.

lol

nm

6 3:39 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I gotta stop tracking this thread. My iphone got like 100 something messages today just on this thread. When Joee and 6 start going back and forth in a thread, my shits blowing up. They respond to each other within seconds. It's like the have some kind of tender ass DJ Bro-mance shit going on. I'm just saying. The shit is kind of entertaining.

It's actually kinda boring to me now. It was fun at some point but now his emotions are getting the best of him.

Time to move on to someone smarter, more competitive.

:)

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:06 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Because you're complaining about RCF 8004A dollar$ being too much. I was just throwing out a lower cost alternative to the ZXA5's to balance things out. You're talking about Peaveys now though so I'll bow out.

Man, I was just kidding with the Peaveys, y'all know I love vintage equipment....

But I ain't spending 2 G's on a sub...

6 4:07 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Time to move on

Please do... this shit is getting really old.

I know what you mean. Same tired jokes from this guy.

The obsession runs deep but hey, what can you do.

:-P

Ann

6 4:07 AM - 30 April, 2015

no misquote lol

nm

6 4:08 AM - 30 April, 2015

PS. It's just so easy to go fishing though and I love me some fishing. lol

nm

Joee 11:27 AM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

6, we get it, you are superior to Joee an every possible and conceivable way imaginable.

Let it go, bro. The horse has long been dead.

i agree with you, there is no one better @ being a

bewytchme.com

6 is the best no denying that, i just like the fact that he actually makes me money…. he is Literally putting money in my account

:-)

6 2:58 PM - 30 April, 2015

I was raised to help the needy and less fortunate. Just doing my civic duty.

;)

nm

AKIEM 3:26 PM - 30 April, 2015

smh chix down

Joee 4:05 PM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

I was raised to help the needy and less fortunate. Just doing my civic duty.

;)

nm

don't worry you will continue to add to my fortune for many years to come

:-)

6 4:42 PM - 30 April, 2015

You're welcome.

;-)

nm

Joee 8:36 PM - 30 April, 2015

cool, keep buying those apple products, thanks you carnala

;-)

6 10:12 PM - 30 April, 2015

Carnala? Tu hermana la que me la mamó ayer.

nm

Joee 10:47 PM - 30 April, 2015

Quote:

Carnala? Tu hermana la que me la mamó ayer.

nm

so i put what you said in google translator & here is the translation

"Carnala ? Your sister who nursed me yesterday."

am i supposed to be mad that my sister did this to you

www.nydailynews.com

Lmao You Are Weak Chix………..Get Your Emotions In Check Carnala!

:-)

6 11:02 PM - 30 April, 2015

You just can't get enough of me. I'm telling you. The obsession runs deep with you.

Take them meds.

Click. The. X.

Regroup.

Come back when you're feeling better.

:)

nm

Joee 11:36 PM - 30 April, 2015

*****Yawn*****

you been saying the same thing for week, it's getting boring already

www.angelfire.com

your frustration/anger/emotions are real carnala

6 12:02 AM - 1 May, 2015

Quote:

You just can't get enough of me. I'm telling you. The obsession runs deep with you.

Take them meds.

Click. The. X.

Regroup.

Come back when you're feeling better.

:)

nm

DJ Dub Cowboy 3:07 PM - 1 May, 2015

JOHNNY M

I'm the proud owner of two VRX subs. They bang. Gonna match them with some RCF HD32.

I'm a little stuck on the matching brands but the RCF subs are two heavy for single operation (inconvenient) and I don't like any of the JBL tops (VRX tops are way out of the price range).

PA2 on the controls. Best sound I've had.

Joee 3:13 PM - 1 May, 2015

Quote:

I'm the proud owner of two VRX subs. They bang. Gonna match them with some RCF HD32.

i'm telling you dub, i suggested this combo to him form the very beginning & serval times since than

he says, he wants 15" so he has a nice bass when using the tops stand alone/no sub

he also says, he doesn't want rcf cause someone he knows tell him there hard to get parts for

DJ Dub Cowboy 4:11 PM - 1 May, 2015

I saw that, which is why I threw my vote in.

I think that JBL SRX line might be the way to go if you want:
- uniform brand
- lightweight
- internal processing
- bangin'

2 SRX815P (63Lbs)
2 SRX818SP (87Lbs)

can be had for around $5k
no need for a driverack PA2 because you can control the SRX line with an iPad as well.

I might have just sold myself on those SRX tops to go with my VRX subs....

Joee 4:35 PM - 1 May, 2015

Quote:

I might have just sold myself on those SRX tops to go with my VRX subs....

lol

Joee 4:53 PM - 1 May, 2015

@ dub did you see the spec on the srx line? the 815p is 2000W Peak, 1500W Continuous

the numbers just don't add up the sub is, 1000W Peak, 750W Continuous

vs the vrx 1500 Watts Peak, 750 Watts Continuous, again the numbers don't add up

Joee 4:54 PM - 1 May, 2015

^ on the srx line that is……vrx is striat

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:00 PM - 1 May, 2015

true, and still with all that DSP in the JBL there isn't an adjustable Low Pass output.

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:00 PM - 1 May, 2015

at from what I can tell.

DJFree 6:37 PM - 1 May, 2015

Quote:

true, and still with all that DSP in the JBL there isn't an adjustable Low Pass output.

I don't know ish about this stuff y'all talking but isn't the low pass output when you can make the sub go 80-100-120hz so on and so forth?

Joee 6:43 PM - 1 May, 2015

Quote:

I don't know ish about this stuff y'all talking but isn't the low pass output when you can make the sub go 80-100-120hz so on and so forth?

correct

Quote:

true, and still with all that DSP in the JBL there isn't an adjustable Low Pass output.

since they put it in the top box i guess

DJFree 6:53 PM - 1 May, 2015

Quote:

I don't know ish about this stuff y'all talking but isn't the low pass output when you can make the sub go 80-100-120hz so on and so forth?

correct

Quote:

true, and still with all that DSP in the JBL there isn't an adjustable Low Pass output.

since they put it in the top box i guess

Ok cool.....I hate that I don't have that on my PRX7 tops......but I'm glad I have that in my 818sp sub......all I had on the 718xlf was 120hz and a polarity switch which I'm still uncertain of it's capabilities but it did make a difference during certain events.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:04 PM - 2 May, 2015

Yo, Pdidy, are you doing a function today outside?

pdidy 9:30 PM - 3 May, 2015

no, next sat may 9th in brooklyn.

pdidy 9:33 PM - 3 May, 2015

oh sorry, thought you were talking about today may 3rd. i did have a backyard event may 2nd for the fight in brooklyn.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:52 PM - 3 May, 2015

Quote:

oh sorry, thought you were talking about today may 3rd. i did have a backyard event may 2nd for the fight in brooklyn.

Ok, my dude was DJ'ing an event in NY and it looked like your setup for a moment....He did some Lupis Walk Event @ South Street Seaport.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:53 PM - 4 May, 2015

So Joee and Pdidy, I was at a fight party this weekend, and dude had 4 QSC Kw181's, coupled together in a fairly small room, and that HAD to be the best bass I'd heard in a mobile rig since laying on top of a Bass Bin at Club 280 back in the day.

Now, maybe I'm missing it, but I'm not really hearing you guys talk about QSC as far as Subs go, where does the KW181 fall in comparison to the ETX's, JBL's and such.

I had an extended experience with the KW181's that night and they were lovely.

How much better are the OTHER subs YOU guys are talking about?

Joee 3:58 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

Now, maybe I'm missing it, but I'm not really hearing you guys talk about QSC as far as Subs go, where does the KW181 fall in comparison to the ETX's, JBL's and such.

the kw181 is one of the best portable subs out there $1,100 or cheaper add a yamaha dxr15 & you have one great system

DJ Guayo 4:01 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

Now, maybe I'm missing it, but I'm not really hearing you guys talk about QSC as far as Subs go, where does the KW181 fall in comparison to the ETX's, JBL's and such.

the kw181 is one of the best portable subs out there $1,100 or cheaper add a yamaha dxr15 & you have one great system

Just remember the sub doesnt have the built in crossover. So your tops will need to have crossover or you will need a audio component to do it for you.

Joee 4:19 PM - 4 May, 2015

@ JM also i already mentioned the kw181 to you

"so i know you don't want to hear it but….

i just got in a pair of yamaha dxr12, these things scream & they sound freaking great

you liking your money to go along way $3,400 gets you two qsc kw181 & two yamaha dxr12 more than enough for any dj & a great sounding system

what's that you want 15" you say no problem the yamaha dxr15 only $100 more per box, i always said the dxr15 is the budget or poor mans zxa5, anyway that jawn sound good go to GC & give them a listen

& don't tell me about the dude that said there always in for repair, they have a 7 year warranty & I've never know one person that had a issue with dxr's"

DJ Dub Cowboy 4:45 PM - 4 May, 2015

Saturday was the first time I used both my VRX918SPs paired with some passive EAW 129z from a Driverack PA2

I must have been doing something wrong because I was not impressed with the sound.

I coupled them in front of the DJ booth. I stacked them in the corner, I even faced them into the corner.

I'm wondering if maybe it had something to do with the room being too small for the throw of the VRX which created some kind of cancellation. I might need to move into something with a cardoid setting or move back to the KW181.

multiple RCF 905s is kind of catching my eye too, but my mind can't get passed the 15" vs 18"

all these options are based on size and weight.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 10:13 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

Now, maybe I'm missing it, but I'm not really hearing you guys talk about QSC as far as Subs go, where does the KW181 fall in comparison to the ETX's, JBL's and such.

the kw181 is one of the best portable subs out there $1,100 or cheaper add a yamaha dxr15 & you have one great system

I've been waiting for QSC to come out with something else so the price will drop on the 181's. I like em.

pdidy 10:41 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

Saturday was the first time I used both my VRX918SPs paired with some passive EAW 129z from a Driverack PA2

This may have just been a bad setting on the driverack, did you try removing it and going direct to the sub ?

Quote:

I must have been doing something wrong because I was not impressed with the sound.
I coupled them in front of the DJ booth. I stacked them in the corner, I even faced them into the corner.
I'm wondering if maybe it had something to do with the room being too small for the throw of the VRX which created some kind of cancellation. I might need to move into something with a cardoid setting or move back to the KW181.

This may have been a cancellation or room mode issue which is common for small rooms, I have personally experienced it in a small livingroom at a house party. These cancellation issues can not be fixed by a cardioid setting (that's not what cardioid does) or move back to the KW181.

My guess it was....
Bad XLR
Bad Driverack setting...... Did you use the auto set up wizard with mic ?
Bad input/output button setting on VRX sub, this is the most common mistake i see when training my dj partners how to set up sound. These buttons need to be double checked because they can be changed in transport. Do you recall what your settings were on both subs ?

pdidy 10:52 PM - 4 May, 2015

this is the vrx918sp amp panel www.solarisnetwork.com. if one of the two buttons are improperly set you will have sound issues.

Have you tested at home to see if the issue is still present ?

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:58 PM - 4 May, 2015

now that I think of it. I may have left the sub in 80z mode and I was trying to crossover around 90.

I had been testing it direct connected with a pair of DXR8s (not the right match for the VRX) and I was able to get the bass tight enough that it literally made me feel like vomiting (which is what I am going for!)

I have set up the Driverack with wizards and the RTA mic. It was a setting that had worked before, but we also set it up quickly and I may have missed something.

on that note...

2 x VRX918SPs vs. 4 x KW181s...

who wins

Joee 11:19 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

2 x VRX918SPs vs. 4 x KW181s...

the vrx is the superior sub, but 4 v 2 i think the kw's coupled together will win

pdidy 11:25 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

I have set up the Driverack with wizards and the RTA mic. It was a setting that had worked before, but we also set it up quickly and I may have missed something.

Keep in mind the wizards and the RTA mic can be hit or miss but when its right you will know it (but this changes from room to room).

Quote:

but we also set it up quickly and I may have missed something.

I tend to make the worst mistakes when im rushing which pisses me off after the fact because I KNOW BETTER !

Quote:

2 x VRX918SPs vs. 4 x KW181s

Most people will find the 4 x KW181 more appealing because it will get slightly louder.

But a smaller percentage of us with good ears and understand bass quality will choose the 2 x VRX918SPs because they go noticeably lower and have superior sound quality.

That being said, I really like the kw181 and recommend it to friends all the time But I could not switch to them after owning the VRX.

Joee 11:29 PM - 4 May, 2015

Quote:

That being said, I really like the kw181 and recommend it to friends all the time But I could not switch to them after owning the VRX.

there really is no sense in buying kw181 when you consider the vrx actually weighs less and cost only about $300 more

pdidy 12:14 AM - 5 May, 2015

@ DJ Dub Cowboy, a more fair comparison would have been in cost....

4 x KW181= $4400

vs

3 x VRX918sp= $4500

In this comparison I believe most people be it Amateur or professional will pick the JBL everytime.

Quote:

I was able to get the bass tight enough that it literally made me feel like vomiting (which is what I am going for!)

A few years ago I stated I achieved this with 3 vrx918sp, I seriously doubt you can achieve this with even 4 qsc181 because they don't produce the lower bass notes at loud volumes like the jbl's.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:54 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

That being said, I really like the kw181 and recommend it to friends all the time But I could not switch to them after owning the VRX.

Ok, if the VW

KW181 are so great, why didn't Joee try to push it down my throat as another option vs trying to get me to buy a 21" sub or a 40" tall 3-way? lmao.

Ok, so 2 x KW181 or 2 x VRX918sp comparison wise...

I'm sure I know the answer, but want to archive it in print here...

The REAL question that I want to get to is QSC KW181 vs EV ETXSP18...

Joee 12:56 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

KW181 are so great, why didn't Joee try to push it down my throat

Quote:

@ JM also i already mentioned the kw181 to you

"so i know you don't want to hear it but….

i just got in a pair of yamaha dxr12, these things scream & they sound freaking great

you liking your money to go along way $3,400 gets you two qsc kw181 & two yamaha dxr12 more than enough for any dj & a great sounding system

what's that you want 15" you say no problem the yamaha dxr15 only $100 more per box, i always said the dxr15 is the budget or poor mans zxa5, anyway that jawn sound good go to GC & give them a listen

& don't tell me about the dude that said there always in for repair, they have a 7 year warranty & I've never know one person that had a issue with dxr's"

Joee 12:57 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

The REAL question that I want to get to is QSC KW181 vs EV ETXSP18...

ev wins, it has a bigger box moves more air & sounds better.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:58 AM - 5 May, 2015

Nah, you only mentioned it ONCE to be such a contender...

The only other time you mentioned it was that somebody said some other 15" sub sounded just as good as the KW181.

Oh, and Joee, what's the pricing on that ? :-)

Joee 12:59 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Ok, so 2 x KW181 or 2 x VRX918sp comparison wise..

um yea you know the answer the vrx is superior

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:59 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

The REAL question that I want to get to is QSC KW181 vs EV ETXSP18...

ev wins, it has a bigger box moves more air & sounds better.

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

Joee 1:00 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and Joee, what's the pricing on that ? :-)

$1,100 right now only because my peoples aren't carrying them, if they were it would be cheaper

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:01 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

The REAL question that I want to get to is QSC KW181 vs EV ETXSP18...

ev wins, it has a bigger box moves more air & sounds better.

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

Pdidy?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:03 AM - 5 May, 2015

And to get back to branding real quick what would be the BEST matching top for the QSC?
2 way please.... :-)

Joee 1:03 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

LMAO……yes see pdidy statement

Quote:

Most people will find the 4 x KW181 more appealing because it will get slightly louder.

But a smaller percentage of us with good ears and understand bass quality will choose the 2 x VRX918SPs because they go noticeably lower and have superior sound quality.

That being said, I really like the kw181 and recommend it to friends all the time But I could not switch to them after owning the VRX.

i thought 4 qsc's would win vs 2 vrx but pdidy has much more experience with it than me, I've never used a drive rack to tune them & get those lows really low

Joee 1:05 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

but did you get nauseous?

Quote:

And to get back to branding real quick what would be the BEST matching top for the QSC?
2 way please.... :-)

yamaha dxr12 or dxr15

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:08 AM - 5 May, 2015

So in order of dopeness it's

JBL-VRX918SP
QSC-KW181
RCF-8003
EV-ETX18SP

Or what order...

Joee 1:08 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

you liking your money to go along way $3,400 gets you two qsc kw181 & two yamaha dxr12 more than enough for any dj & a great sounding system

i know you saw this? that is one great system the output that you get for your dollar makes this system a steal…..Word

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:09 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

but did you get nauseous?

Quote:

And to get back to branding real quick what would be the BEST matching top for the QSC?

2 way please.... :-)

yamaha dxr12 or dxr15

Joee, I'mma strangle you...

YAHMAHA, is OUT...

Didn't I say which QSC MATCHING TOP would go with the KW181?

Did you not see the word Branding?

READ!!!! OMG!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:09 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

you liking your money to go along way $3,400 gets you two qsc kw181 & two yamaha dxr12 more than enough for any dj & a great sounding system

~~i know you saw this? that is one great system the output that you get for your dollar makes this system a steal…..Word~~

Where's Sixxx?

Joee 1:10 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

So in order of dopeness it's

JBL-VRX918SP
QSC-KW181
RCF-8003
EV-ETX18SP

Or what order...

these questions are all subjective as one goes louder while the other goes lower, anyway

vrx
8003
etx
qsc

IMO

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:11 AM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

but did you get nauseous?

They didn't keep it at nauseating level, as the hotel next door was complaining...

But again, I thought I was in a club...

Dude, that bass was DUMB.

Joee 1:12 AM - 5 May, 2015

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Joee, I'mma strangle you...

YAHMAHA, is OUT...

Didn't I say which QSC MATCHING TOP would go with the KW181?

Did you not see the word Branding?

READ!!!! OMG!

chill, get out of your feeling!

QSC KW152

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:12 AM - 5 May, 2015

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So in order of dopeness it's

JBL-VRX918SP

QSC-KW181

RCF-8003

EV-ETX18SP

Or what order...

these questions are all subjective as one goes louder while the other goes lower, anyway

vrx

8003

etx

qsc

IMO

Ok, which does what?

Joee 1:14 AM - 5 May, 2015

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Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out....

but did you get nauseous?

They didn't keep it at nauseating level, as the hotel next door was complaining...

But again, I thought I was in a club...

Dude, that bass was DUMB.

take the qsc, out of the running, the vrx is only like $300 to $400 more, you will know were those extra $$$$ went

Joee 1:17 AM - 5 May, 2015

vrx goes lower than all the other sub if i'm not mistaken, 8003 goes louder than the vrx

ev beats the qsc in all aspects

Joee 1:21 AM - 5 May, 2015

& FYI, QSC KW152 for me would be a no go as it's a 87lbs 15" two way

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:22 AM - 5 May, 2015

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ev beats the qsc in all aspects

except size and weight

Joee 1:24 AM - 5 May, 2015

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ev beats the qsc in all aspects of sound

fixed

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:38 AM - 5 May, 2015

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& FYI, QSC KW152 for me would be a no go as it's a 87lbs 15" two way

87lbs?

And just for sh*ts and giggles, how does it compare to the ZXA5?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:38 AM - 5 May, 2015

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ev beats the qsc in all aspects

except size and weight

This....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:40 AM - 5 May, 2015

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take the qsc, out of the running, the vrx is only like $300 to $400 more, you will know were those extra $$$$ went

But I'm also understanding that you really need to pump up the VRX's to get the best sound out of them...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:42 AM - 5 May, 2015

I'm still interested in this -

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That being said, I really like the kw181 and recommend it to friends all the time But I could not switch to them after owning the VRX.

Because it sound like if he didn't have the VRX's, he would go for the KW181 if he still wanted to put size and weight into as much consideration as to why he chose the VRX's...

Pdidy, where'd you go? lol.

Joee 1:46 AM - 5 May, 2015

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87lbs?

And just for sh*ts and giggles, how does it compare to the ZXA5?

i think there was a review somewhere there was a review saying that the 152 was comparable to the zxa5, i'm not sure tho

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But I'm also understanding that you really need to pump up the VRX's to get the best sound out of them...

pump what up?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:56 AM - 5 May, 2015

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87lbs?

And just for sh*ts and giggles, how does it compare to the ZXA5?

i think there was a review somewhere there was a review saying that the 152 was comparable to the zxa5, i'm not sure tho

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But I'm also understanding that you really need to pump up the VRX's to get the best sound out of them...

pump what up?

Turn up the volume more, to get the desired effect....

pdidy 3:47 AM - 5 May, 2015

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Ok, so 2 x KW181 or 2 x VRX918sp comparison wise...

I'm sure I know the answer, but want to archive it in print here...

That's an easy win for the VRX.

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Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out.

Really ? Well in that case 4 VRX would have actually made you lose consciousness.

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these questions are all subjective as one goes louder while the other goes lower, anyway

vrx
8003
etx
qsc

I agree 100% with order and that it can be subjective depending on priorities.

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ev beats the qsc in all aspects of sound

agreed......
but if we are going to include "size and weight" then the QSC could move to 2nd place and 8003, etx to 3rd ,4th. That's were more "subjective" come in to play.

pdidy 3:55 AM - 5 May, 2015

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But I'm also understanding that you really need to pump up the VRX's to get the best sound out of them...

No, I think your confusing the fact that PASSIVE JBL SUBS are notoriously power hungry and require BIG amps to satisfy them. This does not apply to powered JBL speakers.

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Turn up the volume more, to get the desired effect....

No, powered JBL subs sound great at all levels.

pdidy 4:15 AM - 5 May, 2015

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I'm still interested in this -

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That being said, I really like the kw181 and recommend it to friends all the time But I could not switch to them after owning the VRX.

Because it sound like if he didn't have the VRX's, he would go for the KW181 if he still wanted to put size and weight into as much consideration as to why he chose the VRX's...

Pdidy, where'd you go? lol.

I got my VRX sub back in 2011 and its closest competitor was the rcf8001-8003 but their weight was an issue for me. So if there were no jbl VRX918sp, there is a good chance I would have happily settled for the QSC181.

Now if I had it all to do over again in 2015, the RCF8004 would possibly make me reconsider all my weight priorities.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:10 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Ok, so 2 x KW181 or 2 x VRX918sp comparison wise...

I'm sure I know the answer, but want to archive it in print here...

That's an easy win for the VRX.

Quote:

Are you SURE? Cuz when I heard 4 of those QSC's together, I thought I was gonna pass out.

Really ? Well in that case 4 VRX would have actually made you lose consciousness.

Quote:

these questions are all subjective as one goes louder while the other goes lower, anyway

vrx

8003

etx

qsc

I agree 100% with order and that it can be subjective depending on priorities.

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ev beats the qsc in all aspects of sound

agreed......

but if we are going to include "size and weight" then the QSC could move to 2nd place and 8003, etx to 3rd ,4th. That's were more "subjective" come in to play.

Man, thank you seriously. BOTH you, Joee, Gaffle, Desmonder, DJ Val, Taipanic, GioAlex, and anybody I missed...

I do believe I have all the information I need to make an informed decision....

Well, almost... :-).

Next stop is to LISTEN to the JBL's vs. the ETX, like THIS WEEKEND or NEXT WEEKEND....

The money's in the bank...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:11 PM - 5 May, 2015

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But I'm also understanding that you really need to pump up the VRX's to get the best sound out of them...

No, I think your confusing the fact that PASSIVE JBL SUBS are notoriously power hungry and require BIG amps to satisfy them. This does not apply to powered JBL speakers.

Quote:

Turn up the volume more, to get the desired effect....

No, powered JBL subs sound great at all levels.

Now THAT makes sense...I knew I heard that somewhere....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:13 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Now if I had it all to do over again in 2015, the RCF8004 would possibly make me reconsider all my weight priorities.

One last question...

RCF8003 vs KW181...All aspects taken into consideration....

Joee 12:16 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Man, thank you seriously. BOTH you, Joee, Gaffle, Desmonder, DJ Val, Taipanic, GioAlex, and anybody I missed...

I do believe I have all the information I need to make an informed decision....

Well, almost... :-).

Next stop is to LISTEN to the JBL's vs. the ETX, like THIS WEEKEND or NEXT WEEKEND....

The money's in the bank...

vrx x2 zxa5 x2, this will be your next system. you will be louder than any dj in your area & have "DUMB" bass. you can always add two more vrx's later incase you feel that need to make your party goers vomit/pass out……lol

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One last question...

RCF8003 vs KW181...All aspects taken into consideration....

only you can answer this question do you want a 100+lbs sub? just go vrx only a few dollars more & like i said when you hear them you will know were those extra dollars went

man. did you not hear pdidy say you would have passed out with 4 vrx jawns

Joee 12:29 PM - 5 May, 2015

one last thing. like i said before if size/weight is not a issue forget everything i said & get the sub 8004/art 745 combo

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:39 PM - 5 May, 2015

Thank you Joee, now have a seat...lol.

Pdidy?

Quote:

One last question...

RCF8003 vs KW181...All aspects taken into consideration....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:42 PM - 5 May, 2015

Oh, stand up again Joee, the dude said he was using K12's as the 2-Ways...

How do they rate against the QSC KW152 ?

You said the KW152 is HOW HEAVY?

Joee 12:43 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Thank you Joee, now have a seat...lol.

Pdidy?

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One last question...

RCF8003 vs KW181...All aspects taken into consideration....

that's easy if your taking lbs's into consideration……the qsc wins, but i'll leave you with this the vrx918 actually weights less than the kw181, goes lower/louder/hits harder & only cost a few hundred more

Joee 12:46 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Oh, stand up again Joee, the dude said he was using K12's as the 2-Ways...

How do they rate against the QSC KW152 ?

You said the KW152 is HOW HEAVY?

k12's (right under 50lbs) don't sound as good as the kw152 & the yamaha dxr12 sh!ts all over the k12 IMO

Joee 12:52 PM - 5 May, 2015

you know what when, when i look back at your history of buying products IE all those realistic mixers etc…….

your going to end up buying the kw181/k12 combo? old yes but, it has already been proven as a industry work horse , if thats the case forget about the k12 & get this
qsc.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:55 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, stand up again Joee, the dude said he was using K12's as the 2-Ways...

How do they rate against the QSC KW152 ?

You said the KW152 is HOW HEAVY?

k12's (right under 50lbs) don't sound as good as the kw152 & the yamaha dxr12 sh!ts all over the k12 IMO

Dude, I swear if you say YAHMAHA one more time...

Joee 12:57 PM - 5 May, 2015

YAMAHA yamaha YAHMAHA

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:58 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

your going to end up buying the kw181/k12 combo? old yes but, it has already been proven as a industry work horse , if thats the case forget about the k12 & get this

qsc.com

I don't know anything about what's been proven in the Powered Speaker realm.

This is why I'm asking questions here, so I can make an informed decision to BUY ONCE, and keep it forever...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:59 PM - 5 May, 2015

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& only cost a few hundred more

A few "hundred more" X 2 = 1000 bucks extra dude.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:00 PM - 5 May, 2015

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one last thing. like i said before if size/weight is not a issue forget everything i said & get the sub 8004/art 745 combo

But it IS an issue, soo...****grabs Joee a seat**** Here, have a Philly Cheese steak on me....

Joee 1:12 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

A few "hundred more" X 2 = 1000 bucks extra dude.

$800 more if you get two vrx's but according to pdidy 2 vrx's will most defiantly beat 3 kw181's………like i said you will know were those extra $800 went & you will be glad you spent them

YAH…… MA…….HA……..

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:32 PM - 5 May, 2015

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one last thing. like i said before if size/weight is not a issue forget everything i said & get the sub 8004/art 745 combo

At that point, 8005 or 8006...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:06 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

A few "hundred more" X 2 = 1000 bucks extra dude.

$800 more if you get two vrx's but according to pdidy 2 vrx's will most defiantly beat 3 kw181's………like i said you will know were those extra $800 went & you will be glad you spent them

You also have to remember what I'm trying to accomplish...

I'm ONLY replacing the Cerwin Vega V35's...remember?

I don't plan on expanding past a 2-way and a sub combination.

I plan on using the 2-ways a LOT, but when I need to do bigger events, throw in the sub.

If I need more than that, I'll rent, or link up with someone, so I'm also trying to keep to brands that THEY may have as well so I can combine systems if need be.

I already know nobody over here is gonna have the JBV VRX, or RCF anything.

The QSC and EV are a different story tho...

Trust, all angles are being looked at...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:06 PM - 5 May, 2015

I already know nobody over here is gonna have the JBL* VRX, or RCF anything.

Joee 3:31 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

I already know nobody over here is gonna have the JBL* VRX, or RCF anything.

nobody were? the stores to purchase? my dude can get you everything your considering shipped to your door step @ cheaper pricing than anyone your selling with

if you want the qsc system, than do that?……just know that the qsc is inferior to both vrx918sp/zxa5 & etx18sp/etx15p

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:43 PM - 5 May, 2015

No, nobody around my area who I can link up with to "expand" my system with subs if need be.

Calm down Joee...lol

I'm already getting the ZXA5 for sure...Just exploring Sub options....

Joee 3:50 PM - 5 May, 2015

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No, nobody around my area who I can link up with to "expand" my system with subs if need be.

buy the right sub & you won't need to link up with anyone to expand your system! i'm pretty sure two sub 8004-as, spanks all four of those kw181 your heard, do you think you will need more bass than you witnessed from the 4 jawns

Joee 3:52 PM - 5 May, 2015

if you can get past the weight, this is still one of you best options @1,100
yorkville.com

Joee 3:53 PM - 5 May, 2015

you would need two to three kw181 to do what just one york does

SG SOUNDS 5:27 PM - 5 May, 2015

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if you can get past the weight, this is still one of you best options @1,100
yorkville.com

+1

DJ GaFFle 6:13 PM - 5 May, 2015

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one last thing. like i said before if price/weight is not a issue forget everything i said & get the sub 8004/art 745 combo

Fixed... remember, the RCF 8004AS is smaller than ALL the other 18" subs dimension-wise, YET goes lower and louder.

DJ GaFFle 6:15 PM - 5 May, 2015

^^^ Also, he hates the look of the 745's. I can't say I blame him on that one.

Djc Jimenez 6:20 PM - 5 May, 2015

Even the 745's look pretty with a setup like this one:

Watch www.youtube.com

Joee 6:26 PM - 5 May, 2015

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one last thing. like i said before if price/weight is not a issue forget everything i said & get the sub 8004/art 745 combo

Fixed... remember, the RCF 8004AS is smaller than ALL the other 18" subs dimension-wise, YET goes lower and louder.

two of those cost $1,000 more than two vrx's…..from all that you said it's well worth it if your ok with 111lbs

Quote:

Even the 745's look pretty with a setup like this one:

Watch www.youtube.com

man that a sexy speaker……lol, when the light are low any speaker looks good

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:08 PM - 5 May, 2015

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No, nobody around my area who I can link up with to "expand" my system with subs if need be.

buy the right sub & you won't need to link up with anyone to expand your system! i'm pretty sure two sub 8004-as, spanks all four of those kw181 your heard, do you think you will need more bass than you witnessed from the 4 jawns

Dude, that 8004 is how much again?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:09 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

if you can get past the weight, this is still one of you best options @1,100
yorkville.com

Dude, don't tell anything else about a speaker that begins with the letter "Y"....

lmao...

Joee 7:11 PM - 5 May, 2015

$2,000 vs the $1,500 vrx if you want sheer output on a budget than give this another look

Quote:

if you can get past the weight, this is still one of you best options @$1,100
yorkville.com

you would need two to three kw181 to do what just one york does

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:11 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

one last thing. like i said before if price/weight is not a issue forget everything i said & get the sub 8004/art 745 combo

Fixed... remember, the RCF 8004AS is smaller than ALL the other 18" subs dimension-wise, YET goes lower and louder.

Quote:

^^^ Also, he hates the look of the 745's. I can't say I blame him on that one.

Right, I'm not trying to be on the cutting edge of anything right now...

I just went by GC and checked the dimensions of that ETXSP18...@ 114lbs.... :-(.

Man, that's a lot of wood...a lighter option is looking better and better....

Joee 7:12 PM - 5 May, 2015

YAH ………MA…………HA

YAHMAHA YAHMAHA YAHMAHA yahmaha yahmaha yahmaha

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:13 PM - 5 May, 2015

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$2,000 vs the $1,500 vrx if you want sheer output on a budget than give this another look

Let me clear this up for you...

My SUB budget is 3K max....

Absolute max.

Joee 7:16 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

I just went by GC and checked the dimensions of that ETXSP18...@ 114lbs.... :-(.

Man, that's a lot of wood...a lighter option is looking better and better....

ummm, didn't i tell you this? "it's a awkward lift because of it's size weight & handle placement"

let me get my crystal ball

***********you say what crystal ball***********

ok your new sub will be
www.jblpro.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:21 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

I just went by GC and checked the dimensions of that ETXSP18...@ 114lbs.... :-(.

Man, that's a lot of wood...a lighter option is looking better and better....

ummm, didn't i tell you this? "it's a awkward lift because of it's size weight & handle placement"

let me get my crystal ball

***********you say what crystal ball***********

ok your new sub will be
www.jblpro.com

Not so fast, that QSC ain't out of the running yet...

Plus, I'm going back to GC to actually LIFT it and see how I can manage it. Remember, the Cerwins were HEAVIER, so....

Joee 7:24 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

Let me clear this up for you...

My SUB budget is 3K max....

Absolute max.

let me clear this up for you, that one rcf sub 8004-as will outperform two regular 18"

according to what DJ GaFFle is saying i would not be surprised if the 8004 outperforms two kw181 or two vrx918sp……..so your bass would actually be cheaper if you go 8003

Quote:

Not so fast, that QSC ain't out of the running yet...

Plus, I'm going back to GC to actually LIFT it and see how I can manage it. Remember, the Cerwins were HEAVIER, so....

theres no doubt you will be happy with the kw181, it weights 88lbs……but peep my above statement again

Joee 7:24 PM - 5 May, 2015

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so your bass would actually be cheaper if you go 8004

fixed

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:26 PM - 5 May, 2015

Joee, what part of my budget for subs is 3K aren't you seeing?

I'm not buying ONE sub.

C'mon man, now you're typing just to be typing....

Joee 7:27 PM - 5 May, 2015

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i would not be surprised if one 8004 outperforms two kw181 or two vrx918sp

fixed

Joee 7:29 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Joee, what part of my budget for subs is 3K aren't you seeing?

I'm not buying ONE sub.

C'mon man, now you're typing just to be typing...

so if you can buy one sub for less than two kw181 cost & that sub will outperform those 181's you would not buy this?…….uniformity in having two subs is more important than having a single sub that has better bass?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:30 PM - 5 May, 2015

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uniformity in having two subs is more important than having a single sub that has better bass?

Yes.

Joee 7:31 PM - 5 May, 2015

i'm gonna type some more……lol

the kw181 is a good speaker, but it's just NOT on the level of a zxa5 period point blank, not even the etx18sp is on the level of the zxa5 & that speaker sounds/hass better bass than the qsc!

Joee 7:35 PM - 5 May, 2015

i'm gonna type some more……lol

the kw181 will run out of gas, while the zxa5 will laugh & say is that all you got? man turn up the volume & hear me sing!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:36 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

i'm gonna type some more……lol

the kw181 is a good speaker, but it's just NOT on the level of a zxa5 period point blank, not even the etx18sp is on the level of the zxa5 & that speaker sounds/hass better bass than the qsc!

Why are you comparing the 181 to the ZXA5?

Again, you're not listening....I'm not spending over 3K in subs...I'm not buying ONE sub.

I'm not getting any speaker that begins with the letter "Y".

Joee 7:39 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Why are you comparing the 181 to the ZXA5?

cause you already said you were going to get the zxa5

â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â
€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦..
i'm gonna type some moreâ€¦â€¦lol

you will need 4 to 6 kw181 if not more to keep up with two zxa5, you said you wanted loud, do you want your bass to keep up wit your loud

Joee 7:43 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Why are you comparing the 181 to the ZXA5?

because you said you were buying the zxa5's

………………………………………………………….

i'm gonna type some more………….

you would need 4 to 6 maybe even more kw181 to keep up with a pair of zxa5's, you said you wanted loud! do you want your bass to keep up wit your loud?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:45 PM - 5 May, 2015

So, my Speaker setup preference is...

2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x EXT18SP = 2400 = 5100.00 100 over anticipated budget.

2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x KW181 = 2200 = 4900.00 = EXACTLY in budget.

2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x VRX = 3000 = 5700.00 = actually 700 over my (internal) budget.

I'm not sure if I need 700 bucks worth of extra bass based on the amount of events that require it.

Remember, I'm ONLY replacing my Cerwin V35's, and what they USED to be able to handle with no problem.

I'm not providing sound for Yankee stadium.

Joee 7:56 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

So, my Speaker setup preference is...

2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x EXT18SP = 2400 = 5100.00 100 over anticipated budget.

2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x KW181 = 2200 = 4900.00 = EXACTLY in budget.

2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x VRX = 3000 = 5700.00 = actually 700 over my (internal) budget.

I'm not sure if I need 700 bucks worth of extra bass based on the amount of events that require it.

Remember, I'm ONLY replacing my Cerwin V35's, and what they USED to be able to handle with no problem.

I'm not providing sound for Yankee stadium.

dude stop being cheap spend that money whats a extra $700

or don't listen to me, but make sure you set something up with pdidy to do a speaker shoot out your two kw181 vs his two vrx918sp…….& i guarantee….you will wish you had spent that money

side note, if the etx isn't too heavy for you get that instead of the qsc!

Djc Jimenez 7:57 PM - 5 May, 2015

I've owned 2 K10's and 2 KW181's for two years now and of course the tops run out of gas a little earlier than the subs, I would probably need 4 K10's for 2 KW181's and that's because the tops hit the limiter quite fast. I love the portability that the subs have but now I'm looking for more output on both the tops and subs.

If all you do are indoor gigs, this sub is pretty good, it can shake a medium size venue, but when you take the sub outdoors that's when you notice you can barely feel the sub, you'd need to get quite close and preferably right in the back of the sub to get the thump.

I'm going to buy a sub where you can feel the chest-thumping lows on the dancefloor, not in the back of the sub without having to get too close to it, so I'll most likely be getting the LS801P, I don't care too much for sound quality, I'm just looking to get good output for the outdoor gigs.

Would I recommend the KW181? If you're looking for portability and only doing indoor gigs, yes. Otherwise, I'd be looking for another option.

Joee 7:57 PM - 5 May, 2015

YAHMAHA………….YAH…………MA…………HA!!!!!!!

YORKVILE………….yorkvile!!!!!!!!!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:00 PM - 5 May, 2015

So lemmie get this straight -

2 x ETX18SP - 2400 bucks, 114lbs, 135db, branding with EV ZXA5
2 x QSCW181 - 2200 bucks, 88lbs, 135db
2 x JBLVRX918SP - 3000 bucks, 85lbs, 132db, Pdidy endorsed

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:01 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Would I recommend the KW181? If you're looking for portability and only doing indoor gigs, yes. Otherwise, I'd be looking for another option.

Only indoor gigs...great input! Thanks!

DJ GaFFle 8:02 PM - 5 May, 2015

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So, my Speaker setup preference is...

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 + 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x EXT18SP = 2400 = 5450.00 = 450 over anticipated budget.

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x KW181 = 2200 = 5250.00 = 250 over budget.

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x VRX = 3000 = 6050.00 = actually 1050 over my (internal) budget.

Fixed

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:07 PM - 5 May, 2015

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dude stop being cheap spend that money whats a extra $700

Man look you don't have kids in college...

You forget... I've bought a MacBook Pro - NEW
2 Swarm 5's - NEW (still need to buy the stand, DMX wire and bags)
A Ford Explorer - NEW

STILL paying for a sweet 16 - 10G's...
STILL paying for a new FURNACE - 10G's....

I was the first person on this forum with a 56S as well....lol.

So again, I buy stuff to last FOREVER....with the intention of never buying a new set of whatever it is...So yeah, I'm watching that extra 700 bucks...

Joee 8:07 PM - 5 May, 2015

^ if he buys that PA2 and doesn't know how to set it up, he will curse us all out saying these speakers don't sound good

yo JM YAHMAHA

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:07 PM - 5 May, 2015

Quote:

So, my Speaker setup preference is...

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 + 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x EXT18SP = 2400 = 5450.00 = 450 over anticipated budget.

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x KW181 = 2200 = 5250.00 = 250 over budget.

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x VRX = 3000 = 6050.00 = actually 1050 over my (internal) budget.

Fixed

YEP! I forgot ALL ABOUT that Driverack so yeah 350.00 on top of errything else...

Joee 8:08 PM - 5 May, 2015

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700 bucks...

$700 buys you one yamaha dxr12

***********runs away**********

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:09 PM - 5 May, 2015

Joeee, what's the best price ya boy can do on that ETX18SP?

Joee 8:11 PM - 5 May, 2015

ask him ,if you've got a price already i'm sure he will beat it, just do the same thing you did when you got the lights …….YAHMAHA

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:12 PM - 5 May, 2015

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but make sure you set something up with pdidy to do a speaker shoot out!

Oh, we've already set that up while you were typing "YYYYYYYY''s.....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:16 PM - 5 May, 2015

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ask him ,if you've got a price already i'm sure he will beat it, just do the same thing you did when you got the lights …….

and you said he doesn't do QSC, right?

Joee 8:20 PM - 5 May, 2015

he can get you the qsc tho……..

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:33 PM - 5 May, 2015

Let's talk about that DriveRack PA2 for a minute...

Is the purpose of the DriveRack in relation to the ZXA5 just as a LIMITER/Compressor, or does it actually tailor the sound specifically for the EV?

I ask because I already have a Compressor Limiter in my rack...

DJ GaFFle 8:47 PM - 5 May, 2015

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So, my Speaker setup preference is...

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 + 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x EXT18SP = 2400 = 5450.00 = 450 over anticipated budget.

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x KW181 = 2200 = 5250.00 = 250 over budget.

1 x DriveRack PA2 = 350 2 x ZXA5's = 2700 + 2 x VRX = 3000 = 6050.00 = actually 1050 over my (internal) budget.

Fixed

I'm just gonna set this to the side right over here:

2 x RCF HD32A = 2000 + 2 x RCF 8004A = 4000 = 6000.00 = 1000 over budget ((( but ))) requires no external limiter or compressor to "protect" your ZXA5 tops, matching name brand system, bass crushes your competition's 2-sub setups, future-proofed with the most powerful yet smallest footprint subs out there, 12" tops have 3" horns for extra clarity and have a smaller size for modest gigs. This is a buy-once cry-once system. You won't look back or even sideways with those subs.

On the plus side with the ZXA5's, you've got some tops that you can get away with no subs at certain gigs even though they're on sticks but don't attempt to play them too loud w/o caution or your limiter (extra baggage). Heavy compression from an external unit for "protection" isn't the best thing to do with modern-day tunes because they're already highly compressed. If you're not careful, an external compressor, on top of heavily compressed studio tunes, will lead to voice-coils being burned out. I've got somewhat of an ear for my ZXA5's but I trust my limiter to do it's thing.

But what'chu gwon do when "your boys" wanna spin on your ZXA5 setup? #JustSayNo

DJ GaFFle 8:53 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Doesnt a TH118 cost about 3-4k? Why not buy one of those?

Too big, too heavy for his vehicle... requires an external amp and DSP.

Plus... most people see a passive sub at $3300 and cough up a fur ball. ((( However ))) one TH-118 is the equivalent to a pair of JBL SRX728 subs, which is insane for a single 18" sub.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:02 PM - 5 May, 2015

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I'm just gonna set this to the side right over here:

2 x RCF HD32A = 2000 + 2 x RCF 8004A = 4000 = 6000.00 = 1000 over budget ((( but ))) requires no external limiter or compressor to "protect" your ZXA5 tops, matching name brand system, bass crushes your competition's 2-sub setups, future-proofed with the most powerful yet smallest footprint subs out there, 12" tops have 3" horns for extra clarity and have a smaller size for modest gigs. This is a buy-once cry-once system. You won't look back or even sideways with those subs.

On the plus side with the ZXA5's, you've got some tops that you can get away with no subs at certain gigs even though they're on sticks but don't attempt to play them too loud w/o caution or your limiter (extra baggage). Heavy compression from an external unit for "protection" isn't the best thing to do with modern-day tunes because they're already highly compressed. If you're not careful, an external compressor, on top of heavily compressed studio tunes, will lead to voice-coils being burned out. I've got somewhat of an ear for my ZXA5's but I trust my limiter to do it's thing.

Duly noted!

Those ZXA5's be calling me man....

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But what'chu gwon do when "your boys" wanna spin on your ZXA5 setup? #JustSayNo

I'll be the soundman, but 9 times outta 10, nobody gets on after me anyway...plus I'll have SOME Idiot Button Compression engaged if I have guests...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:04 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Doesnt a TH118 cost about 3-4k? Why not buy one of those?

Because I want 2 subs....if I'm gonna have a sub...

There's this symmetry thing I have...Plus, if THAT sub dies, I have no bass...

No Bueno.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:37 PM - 5 May, 2015

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he can get you the qsc tho……..

Just spoke to him....that would be a negative....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:55 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Why are you hating on all things Y, Johnny?

lol, just trying to keep Joee quiet for a minute..

I already told him I don't feel Yahmaha or Yorkville for whatever reasons, yet he KEEPS bringing them into the equation....

This right here rings highest right now -

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but if we are going to include "size and weight" then the QSC could move to 2nd place and

It fits my budget, fits in my car, and hopefully won't kill the interior, and that lil blue light was hot...lmao.

I have to think REAL HARD on spending an extra 1000 bucks for subs when I know all I'm doing is replacing the V35's....

Hell, my ORIGINAL budget was 4000.00....lol. Don't tell my wife tho.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:56 PM - 5 May, 2015

And that was 4000 for BOTH tops and subs....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:57 PM - 5 May, 2015

Hey Pdidy,

Where are you getting the numbers below?

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@ DJ Dub Cowboy, a more fair comparison would have been in cost....

4 x KW181= $4400

vs

3 x VRX918sp= $4500

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:01 PM - 5 May, 2015

Gaffle, where did you get the price for the 8004?

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I'm just gonna set this to the side right over here:

2 x RCF HD32A = 2000 + 2 x RCF 8004A = $4.000.00 = 6000.00 = 1000 over budget

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:01 PM - 5 May, 2015

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^ if he buys that PA2 and doesn't know how to set it up, he will curse us all out saying these speakers don't sound good

Ha, unlike YOU, I will be reading the manual... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:19 PM - 5 May, 2015

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& FYI, QSC KW152 for me would be a no go as it's a 87lbs 15" two way

87lbs?

And just for sh*ts and giggles, how does it compare to the ZXA5?

Joee, FYI the KW152 is 64lbs bruh.....

Joee 11:19 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Joee, FYI the KW152 is 64lbs bruh.....

my bad i must have been looking at the 3 way….lol, so now maybe consider the 181/152?

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Gaffle, where did you get the price for the 8004?

from me

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Ha, unlike YOU, I will be reading the manual... :-)

whats that :)

one last thing STOP HATTIN……YAH……..MA…….HA yahmaha

Joee 11:31 PM - 5 May, 2015

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I'm just gonna set this to the side right over here:

2 x RCF HD32A = 2000 + 2 x RCF 8004A

& what if i could get this to you for $5,700? or cheaper?

Joee 11:43 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Hell, my ORIGINAL budget was 4000.00....lol. Don't tell my wife tho.

you know what you can get for a little less than 4k?

really ?

do you know?

no but for real tho!

you wanna know?

i'll tell you!

two 15' YAHMAHA dxr15's & two qsc kw181's, or i believe 4k gets you two qsc kw152 & two kw181

but do you know what speaker they call the qsc killer?

the YAHMAHA DXR series for real

:-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:44 PM - 5 May, 2015

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I'm just gonna set this to the side right over here:

2 x RCF HD32A = 2000 + 2 x RCF 8004A

& what if i could get this to you for $5,700? or cheaper?

Annnnnnd......

no.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:45 PM - 5 May, 2015

ZXA5's + a sub...

Joee 11:50 PM - 5 May, 2015

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Annnnnnd......

no.

but…….but, DAMN

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ZXA5's + NO qsc sub i will be getting vrx918 or etx18...

fixed

Joee 11:52 PM - 5 May, 2015

real talk, get what you want, i sold my vrx918's to get the lighter rcf art 905-a sub because i put a 70lbs limit on my sub……

get what works for you ;)

desmorider 12:14 AM - 6 May, 2015

Holy shit. And i thought i had a hard time making up my mind. Djjohnie1, have you listened to the slammies we talk about here. I know you just heard the 181's and liked those. But what about the kw152's, hd32's,etx's,etc,etc,etc. People can give you recommendations all day long, but at the end of the day you have to live with your purchase. Speakers are subjective, what sounds great to me might sound like complete ass to you. Check with a GC near you to see what they have in their powered rental speaker inventory. The ones near me rent out qsc kw series. They charge 40 per box. Two 152's, two 181's for 160. Do a gig with them and see how they sound. I had a set of 152's and they had a nice sound to me, but not great.

Also, why are you sleeping on the yamaha's? Is it just a personal thing? The dsr's and the dxr's get busy.

Joee 12:22 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Holy shit. And i thought i had a hard time making up my mind. Djjohnie1, have you listened to the slammies we talk about here. I know you just heard the 181's and liked those. But what about the kw152's, hd32's,etx's,etc,etc,etc. People can give you recommendations all day long, but at the end of the day you have to live with your purchase. Speakers are subjective, what sounds great to me might sound like complete ass to you. Check with a GC near you to see what they have in their powered rental speaker inventory. The ones near me rent out qsc kw series. They charge 40 per box. Two 152's, two 181's for 160. Do a gig with them and see how they sound. I had a set of 152's and they had a nice sound to me, but not great.

Also, why are you sleeping on the yamaha's? Is it just a personal thing? The dsr's and the dxr's get busy.

real talk

Joee 12:23 AM - 6 May, 2015

@desmorider are you ay closer to getting at least one sub 8005? it would be the perfect match to ur 745

Joee 12:23 AM - 6 May, 2015

^excuse me sub 8004, the 8005 is too heavy for one person

DJ GaFFle 12:37 AM - 6 May, 2015

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...Two 152's, two 181's for 160. Do a gig with them and see how they sound. I had a set of 152's and they had a nice sound to me, but not great...

So this is cool and all but an A/B is the way to REALLY tell if you have a good sounding system or not. Admittedly, all these system suggested to him are pretty good and of course, some are better than others. Renting a setup will only be relative to what he has in front of him. For example: In the past, I had just purchased a pair of Tapco Thumps. I pulled one out the box and I immediately felt it sounded good and really full with nice lows; it only limited too quickly and didn't get loud enough. I whipped out my QSC HPR121i and it made that Thump sound like steaming fresh boo-boo. I realized the Thumps highs were raspy, even at low volumes... and they sounded very gritty. It's best to A/B systems if possible.

pdidy 12:40 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Hey Pdidy,

Where are you getting the numbers below?

Quote:

@ DJ Dub Cowboy, a more fair comparison would have been in cost....

4 x KW181= $4400

vs

3 x VRX918sp= $4500

PROAUDIOSTAR.COM

Joee 12:51 AM - 6 May, 2015

at the end of the day, IMHO it really doesn't matter what system he choses….he is improving in his old cv system

desmorider 12:54 AM - 6 May, 2015

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@desmorider are you ay closer to getting at least one sub 8005? it would be the perfect match to ur 745

Picking up one 8004 in next few weeks, and second one in june. Wifey knocking-da-hustle and wanting to build a new crib. Throwing a wrench in my shopping plans. Instead of picking out gear, my ass picking out counter tops and lighting fixtures and shit.

Joee 12:59 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Instead of picking out gear, my ass picking out counter tops and lighting fixtures and shit.

lol…….nothing wrong with that, make that crib look nice first, the house will go up in value the speakers won't

desmorider 1:02 AM - 6 May, 2015

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...Two 152's, two 181's for 160. Do a gig with them and see how they sound. I had a set of 152's and they had a nice sound to me, but not great...

So this is cool and all but an A/B is the way to REALLY tell if you have a good sounding system or not. Admittedly, all these system suggested to him are pretty good and of course, some are better than others. Renting a setup will only be relative to what he has in front of him. For example: In the past, I had just purchased a pair of Tapco Thumps. I pulled one out the box and I immediately felt it sounded good and really full with nice lows; it only limited too quickly and didn't get loud enough. I whipped out my QSC HPR121i and it made that Thump sound like steaming fresh boo-boo. I realized the Thumps highs were raspy, even at low volumes... and they sounded very gritty. It's best to A/B systems if possible.

True dat. Just trying to give him a feel for the powered speaker game. I started this shit in 1978. Stacks and racks always. My first couple of uses of powered speakers were rentals. I enjoyed the ease of setup and the time saved.

Johny1,
You should cross the bridge and take a day to do side by sides. Im sure if you go to PAS or canal hi fi(or whatever they called now), you can listen to some real bangers, and help make up your mind.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:27 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Holy shit. And i thought i had a hard time making up my mind.

I'm good now....Narrowed it down to 3 subs....

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Also, why are you sleeping on the yamaha's? Is it just a personal thing? The dsr's and the dxr's get busy.

Historical bad worksmanship, and everybody and their mother over here has Yorkvilles.

Nobody has ZXA5's....

Nobody...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:29 AM - 6 May, 2015

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It's best to A/B systems if possible.

Yep, on the schedule....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:29 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Hey Pdidy,

Where are you getting the numbers below?

Quote:

@ DJ Dub Cowboy, a more fair comparison would have been in cost....

4 x KW181= $4400

vs

3 x VRX918sp= $4500

PROAUDIOSTAR.COM

Thank you sir...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:30 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Picking up one 8004 in next few weeks, and second one in june. Wifey knocking-da-hustle and wanting to build a new crib. Throwing a wrench in my shopping plans. Instead of picking out gear, my ass picking out counter tops and lighting fixtures and shit.

Ha, been there done that...

It's my time to get this in before the focus shifts again....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:33 AM - 6 May, 2015

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Instead of picking out gear, my ass picking out counter tops and lighting fixtures and shit.

lol…….nothing wrong with that, make that crib look nice first, the house will go up in value the speakers won't

Yes, I bought my crib Dec 2010, and refinanced, CLOSED last Weds, and the value went UP $50,000.

Win all day.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:38 AM - 6 May, 2015

However, as mentioned before ProAudio Star does not list any QSC stuff now....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:41 AM - 6 May, 2015

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JohnnyM,
You should cross the bridge and take a day to do side by sides. Im sure if you go to PAS or canal hi fi(or whatever they called now), you can listen to some real bangers, and help make up your mind.

OMG...lol, I've got that SCHEDULED....

The funny thing is that I've always said I wanted the ZXA5's.....but Joee kept trying to change my mind with all the different tops....lmao..

But I appreciate the suggestions....

Stay tuned...

Joee 1:53 AM - 6 May, 2015

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However, as mentioned before ProAudio Star does not list any QSC stuff now....

i can get qsc from them even tho they don't sell them any more…..if they did still sell them i would get a even better price

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The funny thing is that I've always said I wanted the ZXA5's.....but Joee kept trying to change my mind with all the different tops....lmao..

man zxa5 is old news dog, let me put it in words you understand them Jawns is old son, rcf art 745-a all day, besides my job is to inform you and give you options OPTIONS man

desmorider 1:54 AM - 6 May, 2015

Zxa5/etx18sp
For some reason i think that has been mentioned before. When do you think you will purchase johnny. Next few weeks, months, or longer. Not trying to clown you, just excited that your forging new grounds with the powered jawns. Im sure you will love them, and your back will thank you. Im remember lugging like 10-12 milk crates of records to a jam, now you just show up with a lappie. Technology is da-shit.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:22 AM - 6 May, 2015

It will be ZXA5's with either

EV - ETX18SP
QSC - KW181 or
JBL - VRX918SP.

Will have them by the end of the month.

If you look at my record, I've done EVERYTHING exactly how I laid it out..

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:53 AM - 6 January, 2015

The real reason why this is coming up is that I'm looking to change my car from a Van to an SUV.

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:22 PM - 9 January, 2015
lol, the entire reason why I'm going thru this exercise is because I'm downsizing from a MiniVan to an SUV...Hopefully a Ford Explorer....they look decent...but we'll see...

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:27 PM - 18 April, 2015
Well, the "Plan" continues...

I got rid of my old ride and got this

A 2015 Ford Explorer

I'm looking to fit 2 EV ZXA5's and Subs in it....

What y'all think?

And here we are today...

Everything is on schedule....

Joee 11:37 AM - 6 May, 2015

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JBL - VRX918SP.

spend that extra $700, you will regret it if you don't

logic says it's the right sub to buy, from all three it's the best sounding sub/it's the lightest sub/it has a powercon connector just like the zxa5/there on the same level as the zxa5

you like those kw181, the vrx will eat it for breakfast

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:13 PM - 6 May, 2015

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JBL - VRX918SP.

spend that extra $700, you will regret it if you don't

logic says it's the right sub to buy, from all three it's the best sounding sub/it's the lightest sub/it has a powercon connector just like the zxa5/there on the same level as the zxa5

you like those kw181, the vrx will eat it for breakfast

Again, all I'm trying to do is REPLACE what I had, not DJ for Yankee Stadium.

I'm sure the ETX or QSC will match or exceed the bass output of the Cerwins.

I have to factor in the price of the DriveRack.

But thanks tho.

Joee 12:33 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Again, all I'm trying to do is REPLACE what I had, not DJ for Yankee Stadium.

ok well in that case your spending WAAAAAY to much money forget about those zxa5

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I have to factor in the price of the DriveRack.

forget about those zxa5, than you won't even need a drive rack

get some kw181 & kw12 or k12 or kw152â€¦â€¦& you will be straight

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but didn't you say you wanted to be a cut above your competition? you don't do that buy buying the same kw181 or etx18sp that they all have

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i'm going to let you in on a little secret ..you don't even pay for your gearâ€¦your clients do

whatever fee you charge to do parties, just add $25 to $50 $100 (if posable) on to that, do like redman put that money in a shoebox till you have what ever your speakers cost

you see that you have new speakers that someone else payed for, your welcome & i don't want to hear you can't add a extra $25 to your fee

Joee 12:48 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Again, all I'm trying to do is REPLACE what I had, not DJ for Yankee Stadium.

in that case your spending WAAAAY to much money, forget about those zxa5... qsc k12 kw12 or kw152 is more than enough

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I have to factor in the price of the DriveRack.

again you don't even need a drive rack, forget about those zxa5 get the etx or qsc k

now didn't you say that you wanted to be a cut above the rest? you don't do that by using the same qsc k/ev ext that everyone else has ******Allen Iverson Voice****** come on man we talking about $700 man $700 it's $700 man

imma let you in on a secret shhhh keep it on the low, you don't even pay for you gear your client does, what ever price you charge for parties just add $25 $50 or even $100 if possible, redman mtv cribs that extra $25 to $100 put it in a shoebox till you have what ever you paid for your speakers

see that you just got your speakers for free your welcome , don't tell me you can't add a extra $25 on to your private party fee

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:30 PM - 6 May, 2015

Joee, send me the extra 700 bucks and I'll get them.

Thanks.

Joee 1:33 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Joee, send me the extra 700 bucks and I'll get them.

Thanks.

use that money i saved you on the swarms to start

:)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:51 PM - 6 May, 2015

Don't let me go back and start retracting statements....

I'll put my OWN thread in the Backfired threads collection if you keep STALKING me around the board....lol.

Joee 1:57 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Don't let me go back and start retracting statements....

I'll put my OWN thread in the Backfired threads collection if you keep STALKING me around the board....lol.

and the funny meter says
s304.photobucket.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:17 PM - 6 May, 2015

Dammit Joee...

serato.com

Joee 2:28 PM - 6 May, 2015

^ see above post

desmorider 2:44 PM - 6 May, 2015

Get an etx setup man. Etx12 if you will always use subs. Etx15 if you play without subs sometime. Etx18sp sub is very nice, or you could do the etx15sp sub. Most oeople say that the 15 performs as good as most 18's. An etx system would sound killer, it's plug and play, and requires no outboard processing. What is your fascination with the zxa5? It's loud as shit, but in the sound quality department, it sounds no better then the etx15. That's just my opinion, and you know what they opinions are like. You should really a/b the zxa5 and etx15 and see how much of a difference in volume you would have. You said it yourself, you are not trying to play at Yankee Stadium. I say go with the new technology, and not have to purchase and drag around the driverack.

Joee 2:51 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Get an etx setup man. Etx12 if you will always use subs. Etx15 if you play without subs sometime. Etx18sp sub is very nice, or you could do the etx15sp sub. Most oeople say that the 15 performs as good as most 18's. An etx system would sound killer, it's plug and play, and requires no outboard processing. What is your fascination with the zxa5? It's loud as shit, but in the sound quality department, it sounds no better then the etx15. That's just my opinion, and you know what they opinions are like. You should really a/b the zxa5 and etx15 and see how much of a difference in volume you would have. You said it yourself, you are not trying to play at Yankee Stadium. I say go with the new technology, and not have to purchase and drag around the driverack.

man "WOTCH" out desmorider he may accuse you of stalking him…….lol

i said this to him a long time ago since he heard the etx15p & liked it, i suggested the etx18sp & the etx15p i figure it would have been best to have the newer technology prosesing limiting dsp etc…….he doesn't want to listen

FYI JM desmorider has done a actual side by side comparison of the rcf art 745 ev zxa5 & ev etx15p……@ least i think it was him?

DJ GaFFle 3:50 PM - 6 May, 2015

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...What is your fascination with the zxa5? It's loud as shit, but in the sound quality department, it sounds no better then the etx15. That's just my opinion, and you know what they opinions are like. You should really a/b the zxa5 and etx15 and see how much of a difference in volume you would have. You said it yourself, you are not trying to play at Yankee Stadium. I say go with the new technology, and not have to purchase and drag around the driverack.

I agree here. I'm fine with the ZXA5's and they chumped the GC powered top competition for years but today is a new day in speakers. They still go crazy loud but I pretty much only bring them out when I run my Danleys for big events. It takes a pair of Danleys subs to keep up with the ZXA5's and give that bass-heavy/club sort of sound I want for proms and such. Imagine how many standard 18" subs it would take to keep up! And yes, my big setup always has an external DSP keeping the ZXA5's protected from themselves. If I were buying today, knowing what I know, I wouldn't think of getting them due to no internal limiter. I don't want to be walking on eggshells when playing out with what's supposed to be a more simplistic "powered" setup. Powered tops should be two-speakers-on-a-stick, NOT two-speakers-on-a-stick-PLUS-rack-mounted-external-DSP-unit.

KISS and consider the ETX15SP, ETX12SP, HD32A, NX-L24A, SRX815P, SRX812P and ETX18SP, VRX918SP or 8004AS subs.

QSC KW181's... they're pretty good subs but I A/B'd them at a GC for a good 30 minutes. They got stepped on by the ETX18SP in every respect (lowness, sound quality, overall output, features). Their only advantage over the ETX18SP is their slightly lower price and 26 lbs lower weight.

Joee 3:55 PM - 6 May, 2015

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I agree here. I'm fine with the ZXA5's and they chumped the GC powered top competition for years but today is a new day in speakers. They still go crazy loud but I pretty much only bring them out when I run my Danleys for big events. It takes a pair of Danleys subs to keep up with the ZXA5's and give that bass-heavy/club sort of sound I want for proms and such. Imagine how many standard 18" subs it would take to keep up! And yes, my big setup always has an external DSP keeping the ZXA5's protected from themselves. If I were buying today, knowing what I know, I wouldn't think of getting them due to no internal limiter. I don't want to be walking on eggshells when playing out with what's supposed to be a more simplistic "powered" setup. Powered tops should be two-speakers-on-a-stick, NOT two-speakers-on-a-stick-PLUS-rack-mounted-external-DSP-unit.

KISS and consider the ETX15SP, ETX12SP, HD32A, NX-L24A, SRX815P, SRX812P and ETX18SP, VRX918SP or 8004AS subs.

QSC KW181's... they're pretty good subs but I A/B'd them at a GC for a good 30 minutes. They got stepped on by the ETX18SP in every respect (lowness, sound quality, overall output, features). Their only advantage over the ETX18SP is their slightly lower price and 26 lbs lower weight.

Thank you DJ GaFFle, these are all points I've made to him from the beginning of this thread & you just confirmed it ;-)

maybe now he will listen, or maybe pdidy saying the same thing will do the trick

pdidy 7:45 PM - 6 May, 2015

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...What is your fascination with the zxa5? It's loud as shit, but in the sound quality department, it sounds no better then the etx15. That's just my opinion, and you know what they opinions are like. You should really a/b the zxa5 and etx15 and see how much of a difference in volume you would have. You said it yourself, you are not trying to play at Yankee Stadium. I say go with the new technology, and not have to purchase and drag around the driverack.

I agree here. I'm fine with the ZXA5's and they chumped the GC powered top competition for years but today is a new day in speakers. They still go crazy loud but I pretty much only bring them out when I run my Danleys for big events. It takes a pair of Danleys subs to keep up with the ZXA5's and give that bass-heavy/club sort of sound I want for proms and such. Imagine how many standard 18" subs it would take to keep up! And yes, my big setup always has an external DSP keeping the ZXA5's protected from themselves. If I were buying today, knowing what I know, I wouldn't think of getting them due to no internal limiter. I don't want to be walking on eggshells when playing out with what's supposed to be a more simplistic "powered" setup. Powered tops should be two-speakers-on-a-stick, NOT two-speakers-on-a-stick-PLUS-rack-mounted-external-DSP-unit.

KISS and consider the ETX15SP, ETX12SP, HD32A, NX-L24A, SRX815P, SRX812P and ETX18SP, VRX918SP or 8004AS subs.

QSC KW181's... they're pretty good subs but I A/B'd them at a GC for a good 30 minutes. They got stepped on by the ETX18SP in every respect (lowness, sound quality, overall output, features). Their only advantage over the ETX18SP is their slightly lower price and 26 lbs lower weight.

I agree 100%

But we also have to understand that we (me, joee, gaffle and others) have established the zxa5 as the trophy of speakers. Now just when johnnys prepared to enter the race, the finish line is steps away with trophy zxa5 in his sight.............Then BAAAAMMMM

We change the rules......lol

DJ Guayo 8:02 PM - 6 May, 2015

^ youtu.be

Joee 8:10 PM - 6 May, 2015

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I agree 100%

But we also have to understand that we (me, joee, gaffle and others) have established the zxa5 as the trophy of speakers.

but this was also before the art 745-a, i think all of us would have put aside the looks & whent with the 745 if it was available at the time

gaffle has gone on record saying he doesn't like the look of the 745, but he does own 408-as

408
www.rcf.it

745
www.rcf.it

we would all be 745 owners if they were out when the zxa5 was first introduced

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:22 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Powered tops should be two-speakers-on-a-stick, NOT two-speakers-on-a-stick-PLUS-rack-mounted-external-DSP-unit.

Ok I can dig that...but YOU YOURSELF said this when we were comparing the ETX15P to the ZXA5

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DJ GaFFle 12:18 PM - 7 January, 2015

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The ETX15P.

Noper... not with a ZXA5 unless you have at least 4 of them. Even with 4, I bet you'll still want more low end because the ZXA5's scream, mucho loud.

So what changed between NOW and Jan 7th? That was only 4 months ago!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:24 PM - 6 May, 2015

And Joee himself said this!

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Joee 9:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

Joee 8:25 PM - 6 May, 2015

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gaffle has gone on record saying he doesn't like the look of the 745, but he does own 408-as

found them

www.flickr.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:26 PM - 6 May, 2015

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But we also have to understand that we (me, joee, gaffle and others) have established the zxa5 as the trophy of speakers.

Yep, I want that trophy...

Joee 8:28 PM - 6 May, 2015

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And Joee himself said this!

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Joee 9:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

i absolutely said that, you know what else i said, I've almost never had to use them at those SPL's & take note as good as it sounds , when you go supper loud they can get harsh/raspy not something you want to do

pdidy 8:31 PM - 6 May, 2015

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gaffle has gone on record saying he doesn't like the look of the 745, but he does own 408-as

found them

www.flickr.com

lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:31 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Now just when johnnys prepared to enter the race, the finish line is steps away with trophy zxa5 in his sight.............Then BAAAAMMMM

We change the rules......lol

Correct, the end all of all 15" two ways was the ZXA5 about a week ago...

Now y'all are claiming that the 745, is the ZXA5 killa, but NOBODY owns one...(except maybe one person on here)...

So, in keeping with my budget, branding and all that good *ish, AGAIN, I'm going for the ZXA5 and the ETX18SP, and if THAT sub is way too big, I'll cross that road when I get to it. :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:32 PM - 6 May, 2015

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i absolutely said that, you know what else i said, I've almost never had to use them at those SPL's & take note as good as it sounds , when you go supper loud they can get harsh/raspy not something you want to do

What makes you think I'll use them at that SPL w/out enough subs to balance it out?

C'mon son...

Joee 8:40 PM - 6 May, 2015

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What makes you think I'll use them at that SPL

you will never use them at those spl's………..never

but the hole reason i loved using my zxa5 is cause they gave real nice bass with out a sub, witch is what you want……

my zx's get no use these days as my rcf sub/top combo sounds much better

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w/out enough subs to balance it out?

not even 4 kw181's is enough bass to balance out two zxa5's & you said your only buying two, unless your boys are bringing out another 4 to 6 you will never have enough bass to balance them out………..YES thats how loud they are

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:42 PM - 6 May, 2015

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but the hole reason i loved using my zxa5 is cause they gave real nice bass with out a sub, witch is what you want……

And again, that's EXACTLY why I'm buying them!

Case closed!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:45 PM - 6 May, 2015

Y'all drilled it into my head that the ZXA5 is the HANDS DOWN best 15" speaker in it's price range for the money...

Good "enough' bass for a standalone 15" two way, AND gets hella loud.

The only drawback - No DSP.

No problem, I've got GREAT ears for speakers!

Joee 8:48 PM - 6 May, 2015

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And again, that's EXACTLY why I'm buying them!

Case closed!

you do realize that even my zxa1/zxa1 sub combo sounded better than the zxa5's
Watch www.youtube.com

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Y'all drilled it into my head that the ZXA5 is the HANDS DOWN best 15" speaker in it's price range for the money...

Good "enough' bass for a standalone 15" two way, AND gets hella loud.

The only drawback - No DSP.

No problem, I've got GREAT ears for speakers!

that was before the art 745-a, you sound frustrated man……….lol

DJ Dub Cowboy 8:48 PM - 6 May, 2015

if branding is important, why not stick with the ETX line. According to the specs the ETX15P is louder and goes lower than the ZXA5.

Yes, heavier. No outboard processing.

I love my PA2 but I am not dragging it out without a rack. As much as I want to run all my systems through one it stays with the amps for the passive system. + setting up all that gets old real quick.

With all ETX, you plug them in and turn them on. done.

Joee 8:49 PM - 6 May, 2015

if i buy a 745 tomorrow and tell you it beats the zxa5, in loudness & bass than what?

Joee 8:53 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Yep, I want that trophy...

there is this thing called being late to the party……even pdidy said "i never thought i would say this but looks like i will be selling my zxa5"

DECISIONS!!!!!!!!!………..lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:06 PM - 6 May, 2015

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if i buy a 745 tomorrow and tell you it beats the zxa5, in loudness & bass than what?

You'll be the proud owner of a 745...

Joee 9:07 PM - 6 May, 2015

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You'll be the proud owner of a 745...

lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:07 PM - 6 May, 2015

Ha, no frustration here, hell YOU'RE the one catchin' feelings because I want to stick with the ZXA5...lol...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:08 PM - 6 May, 2015

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if branding is important,/quote]

Branding as in the products being EV, or QSC, or RCF, etc....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:08 PM - 6 May, 2015

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if branding is important,

Branding as in the products being EV, or QSC, or RCF, etc....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:09 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Yep, I want that trophy...

there is this thing called being late to the party……even pdidy said "i never thought i would say this but looks like i will be selling my zxa5"

DECISIONS!!!!!!!!!………..lol

Right, because he went with Branding Options to match his Subs!

Joee 9:10 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Ha, no frustration here, hell YOU'RE the one catchin' feelings because I want to stick with the ZXA5...lol...

nah son i already said

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at the end of the day, IMHO it really doesn't matter what system he choses….he is improving in his old cv system

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real talk, get what you want, i sold my vrx918's to get the lighter rcf art 905-a sub because i put a 70lbs limit on my sub……

get what works for you ;)

Joee 9:11 PM - 6 May, 2015

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Right, because he went with Branding Options to match his Subs!

right he has all jbl vrx line in his system

you should get all ev etx in your system……….

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:16 PM - 6 May, 2015

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that was before the art 745-a, you sound frustrated man……….lol

It was all good 4 months ago...

You can't even equivocally say that the 745-a is better because you haven't done an A/B.

Pure speculation based on paper stats...

Meanwhile, ALL of you have co-signed the ZXA5, so the 2-Way decision is already made......

The ONLY thing I'm weighing is
Pdidy's

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but if we are going to include "size and weight" then the QSC could move to 2nd place

vs

Gaffle's

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QSC KW181's... they're pretty good subs but I A/B'd them at a GC for a good 30 minutes. They got stepped on by the ETX18SP in every respect (lowness, sound quality, overall output, features). Their only advantage over the ETX18SP is their slightly lower price and 26 lbs lower weight.

Joee 9:18 PM - 6 May, 2015

man listen

cerwin vega held you down all them years, get them new jawns :-)

www.cerwinvega.com

Joee 9:19 PM - 6 May, 2015

^ 2013 most innovative product……….lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:20 PM - 6 May, 2015

Nope, not made in Cali no more, not the same quality. :-)

Joee 9:23 PM - 6 May, 2015

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QSC KW181's... they're pretty good subs but I A/B'd them at a GC for a good 30 minutes. They got stepped on by the ETX18SP in every respect (lowness, sound quality, overall output, features)

the same exact thing i said……..but when another brother says it you listen, man thats just racist

J/K……….lol

DJ GaFFle 12:16 AM - 7 May, 2015

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gaffle has gone on record saying he doesn't like the look of the 745, but he does own 408-as

found them

www.flickr.com

lol

WTH??!?!?!?

LoL, y'all ain't catchin' me slippin', nah suh... I'm somewhat okay with the 745's looks. I've gone on record before saying I don't think they look that bad as I already own their baby-brothers, the 408A's. Now I ((( did ))) say I absolutely hated the looks of the FBT 14Maxx tops and their logo.

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gaffle has gone on record saying he doesn't like the look of the 745, but he does own 408-as

408
www.rcf.it

745
www.rcf.it

we would all be 745 owners if they were out when the zxa5 was first introduced

I think I recall saying my 408A's are more visually appealing because although they have the exact same design as the 745's, they are small (sorta cute). The huge size of that same design makes the 745's a little more gawdy and IMO, exacerbates their edgy looks.

Besides... "KISS and consider the ETX15SP, ETX12SP, HD32A, NX-L24A, SRX815P, SRX812P and ETX18SP, VRX918SP or 8004AS subs."
^^^ Where in that sentence did I mention RCF 745A?

:-)

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DJ GaFFle 12:18 PM - 7 January, 2015

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The ETX15P.

Noper... not with a ZXA5 unless you have at least 4 of them. Even with 4, I bet you'll still want more low end because the ZXA5's scream, mucho loud.

So what changed between NOW and Jan 7th? That was only 4 months ago!

Nothing's changed, I've always touted the ZXA5's are the kings of 2-way powered speakers when it comes to sheer output. At the same time, everyone has preached that they lack a limiter and unless you're careful, you'll blow something up. Seems like you're willing to take that risk but mitigate it with a $350 DR PA2 so I guess... welcome to the club!

Now, since you're wanting to be king of the 2-way tops, why not be king of the subs with the RCF 8004A's? Not brand matching but you'll be da' Kang!

DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:19 AM - 7 May, 2015

ETX box is newer, bigger & moves more air. It should sound better.

181 = decent sound, lightweight, easy portability, cheapest.
ETX= good sound, big & heavy, not east to move
VRX= great sound, lightweight, easy portability, $700 more

DJ GaFFle 12:22 AM - 7 May, 2015

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ETX box is newer, bigger & moves more air. It should sound better.

181 = decent sound, lightweight, easy portability, cheapest.
ETX= good sound, big & heavy, not east to move
VRX= great sound, lightweight, easy portability, $700 more

And I use to own the QSC HPR181i's... the KW181's replaced them and didn't even sound better. This was an A/B comparison I did when the KW's first came out. I was disappointed and felt it would only be a lateral move at best with lighter weight.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:24 AM - 7 May, 2015

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ETX box is newer, bigger & moves more air. It should sound better.

181 = decent sound, lightweight, easy portability, cheapest.
ETX= good sound, big & heavy, not east to move
VRX= great sound, lightweight, easy portability, $700 more

And I use to own the QSC HPR181i's... the KW181's replaced them and didn't even sound better. This was an A/B comparison I did when the KW's first came out. I was disappointed and felt it would only be a lateral move at best with lighter weight.

For everything I need to do the 181 would suffice. I rent them when I need subs. If I was going to buy...I would go VRX. Unless I could get the 181 really cheap being they are an old model now.

DJ GaFFle 12:29 AM - 7 May, 2015

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ETX box is newer, bigger & moves more air. It should sound better.

181 = decent sound, lightweight, easy portability, cheapest.
ETX= good sound, big & heavy, not east to move
VRX= great sound, lightweight, easy portability, $700 more

Better than what? Not the RCF 8004A. I'm speculating as no one has done an A/B with them but from what I've heard from a couple PA dealers / rental companies, they are pretty much the best 18" bass-reflex sub out there. Their output is beastly even with their smaller size. They're not an MI-focused box (prosumer market)... they even have Powercon connectors which is usually reserved for more serious PA target markets.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:55 AM - 7 May, 2015

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ETX box is newer, bigger & moves more air. It should sound better.

181 = decent sound, lightweight, easy portability, cheapest.
ETX= good sound, big & heavy, not east to move
VRX= great sound, lightweight, easy portability, $700 more

Better than what? Not the RCF 8004A. I'm speculating as no one has done an A/B with them but from what I've heard from a couple PA dealers / rental companies, they are pretty much the best 18" bass-reflex sub out there. Their output is beastly even with their smaller size. They're not an MI-focused box (prosumer market)... they even have Powercon connectors which is usually reserved for more serious PA target markets.

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ETX box is newer, bigger & moves more air. It should sound better.

181 = decent sound, lightweight, easy portability, cheapest.
ETX= good sound, big & heavy, not east to move
VRX= great sound, lightweight, easy portability, $700 more

Better than what? Not the RCF 8004A. I'm speculating as no one has done an A/B with them but from what I've heard from a couple PA dealers / rental companies, they are pretty much the best 18" bass-reflex sub out there. Their output is beastly even with their smaller size. They're not an MI-focused box (prosumer market)... they even have Powercon connectors which is usually reserved for more serious PA target markets.

My comment was supporting about your comment about the ETX to the 181.

DJ GaFFle 1:03 AM - 7 May, 2015

Gotcha ^^^

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:51 AM - 7 May, 2015

That ETX LOOKS heavier than it actually is. I asked the GC guy to let me lift it, so we pulled it out, and stood it on it's wheels.

At that point, I was having second thoughts....

Dude was like, oh, it's not bad to lift, so I said OK YOU lift that...

He squatted down, and lifted that jawn straight up....

I tried, and it was LIGHTER than I thought it would be...

Now, I'm just going over measurements for getting it in the ride, and how much room would be left over...

Stay tuned....:-)

Joee 1:16 PM - 7 May, 2015

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I tried, and it was LIGHTER than I thought it would be..

pssssst…….the vrx is lighter

Joee 1:52 PM - 7 May, 2015

pssssst.

you know the rcf 8004 is lighter than the etx18sp?……..lol

DJ GaFFle 6:49 PM - 7 May, 2015

forums.prosoundweb.com

Joee 7:31 PM - 7 May, 2015

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forums.prosoundweb.com

my boy was selling his same price, told JM no go he wants new, and he could have checked them personally

Djc Jimenez 8:31 PM - 7 May, 2015

Does the RCF 8004-AS have more output than the Yorkville LS801P?

I know the RCF has better sound quality, goes lower, etc. But what about output? Which one goes louder?

Joee 8:41 PM - 7 May, 2015

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Does the RCF 8004-AS have more output than the Yorkville LS801P?

I know the RCF has better sound quality, goes lower, etc. But what about output? Which one goes louder?

8004---136 dB max SPL

york----140dB Peak (134dB Continuous)

Djc Jimenez 9:10 PM - 7 May, 2015

Wow, those yorkies are a beast. If only my KW181's stats were real (135 dB Peak)

pdidy 9:54 PM - 7 May, 2015

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Does the RCF 8004-AS have more output than the Yorkville LS801P?

I know the RCF has better sound quality, goes lower, etc. But what about output? Which one goes louder?

Since ive never measured or a/b 'd them side by side......
My educated guess is It will depend on the frequency range that they are being compared.

For example, when I compared my york 801p vs jbl vrx918sp, the yorkville blow the vrx918sp away because it can play up to 150hz while the vrx cuts off at 80hz. The fact that the yorkville can play 50 to 70hz higher than the average quality sub is one of the secrets as to why no sub in its range can compete with it..... (the other reason is cabinet design)

Now when I crossover the yorkville to 80hz, it loses all the output that was crunching the VRX and preforms closer to the output of 1 vrx918sp instead of 2.

So being that we know the rcf8004 goes lower and louder than my VRX, there's a good chance it will get louder than a yorkville 801 crossedover at 80hz. But if the yorkville is crossedover at 150hz, all bets say the yorkville will be louder.

pdidy 10:12 PM - 7 May, 2015

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Wow, those yorkies are a beast. If only my KW181's stats were real (135 dB Peak)

Everybody lies about their SPL, even the yorkville 801p spl is a lie. I believe its closer 136 max spl.

The JBL vrx918sp is one of the few subs with a real spl because it was measured so I use that as a reference point to compare others.

DJ GaFFle 12:19 AM - 8 May, 2015

***Not for Johnny since he's already decided on tops but:

www.ebay.com

$1600 for a pair of RCF HD32A's with covers @ 1yr old. Add $4k for the 8004A subs and somebody's in business.

:-)

Joee, would you consider that a good deal for sparingly-used HD32A's with covers?

Joee 12:36 AM - 8 May, 2015

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Joee, would you consider that a good deal for sparingly-used HD32A's with covers?

no, i can buy them brand new for the same brice & even cheaper than that b-stock, the bag would be $80

DJ GaFFle 12:39 AM - 8 May, 2015

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Joee, would you consider that a good deal for sparingly-used HD32A's with covers?

no, i can buy them brand new for the same brice & even cheaper than that b-stock, the bag would be $80

Damn! Those employee discount$ come in handy!

:-D

Joee 12:45 AM - 8 May, 2015

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Damn! Those employee discount$ come in handy!

:-D

???????

i work for danleysoundlabs

:-D

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:35 AM - 8 May, 2015

easy... I have my eye on that one.

mostly so I don't have to wait for the covers to be in stock

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***Not for Johnny since he's already decided on tops but:

www.ebay.com

$1600 for a pair of RCF HD32A's with covers @ 1yr old. Add $4k for the 8004A subs and somebody's in business.

:-)

Joee, would you consider that a good deal for sparingly-used HD32A's with covers?

pdidy 1:42 AM - 8 May, 2015

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Interesting...

Is the 801p typically up to 150hz to get the most out of it?

If you want loud than 150hz will get you that.

Or any combination between Loud but not very deep vs Deep but not as loud.

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And if so what are the tops crossed over at, typically, with this configuration?

Yorkville tops typically have an internal crossover set to 90hz which the yorkville 801p can match. If you want different crossover points as high as 150hz you will need an external crossover.

JDforKing 2:16 AM - 8 May, 2015

Hey joee, how do those rcf fd12s compare to your new pair of Yamaha dxr12s?

Joee 3:04 AM - 8 May, 2015

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Hey joee, how do those rcf fd12s compare to your new pair of Yamaha dxr12s?

i will be doing a speaker shoot out very soon between

rcf evox 8

yamaha dxr12
qsc k12
rcf fd12-a
ev zxl12p

qsc kw181
rcf art 905-as

stay tuned

Joee 4:30 PM - 8 May, 2015

Watch www.youtube.com
&

specs
data.over-blog-kiwi.com

makes a nice match wit them hd32

DJ Guayo 6:55 PM - 8 May, 2015

This must be mis-listed....

www.amazon.com

Joee 7:02 PM - 8 May, 2015

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This must be mis-listed....

www.amazon.com

you better buy it before the figure out there mistake……lol

DJ Guayo 7:05 PM - 8 May, 2015

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This must be mis-listed....

www.amazon.com

you better buy it before the figure out there mistake……lol

shut up Joee... lol i'm fine just where I am... plus I will be eyeing the NX24 next...

DJ Dub Cowboy 7:29 PM - 8 May, 2015

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This must be mis-listed....

www.amazon.com

you better buy it before the figure out there mistake……lol

Gift Wrapping avaialable

DJ Dub Cowboy 7:43 PM - 8 May, 2015

dude, someone has to take a chance on that deal.

Joee 7:48 PM - 8 May, 2015

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dude, someone has to take a chance on that deal.

i think they have to honor that deal if you pay for it

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shut up Joee... lol i'm fine just where I am... plus I will be eyeing the NX24 next..

BUY IT!!!!!

DJ GaFFle 8:22 PM - 8 May, 2015

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dude, someone has to take a chance on that deal.

i think they have to honor that deal if you pay for it.

Nope... they'll tell you they made a mistake and give you your money back. Been there, done that. I reported said business to the BBB but to no avail. Ha... and it was with an RCF sub too! I think it was a 905AS listed new for $1099 or something.

Joee 9:08 PM - 8 May, 2015

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and it was with an RCF sub too! I think it was a 905AS listed new for $1099 or something.

lucky for you, you didn't get it, the 905 is a bandpass box witch i know you don't like

www.rodin-sound.ru

www.rodin-sound.ru

looks just like the sub 705 once you pull off the grill

desmorider 9:21 PM - 8 May, 2015

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This must be mis-listed....

www.amazon.com

Da da da da da da da da da da Damn

Wish I hadn't spent that amount on a gun today. Something must be up though, amazon shows shipping weight of 160 lbs. Rcf shows weight of 198.41, so shipping weight would be over 200lbs.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:14 AM - 10 May, 2015

Went to a spot a heard the JBL VRX vs. the QSC KW181. The 181 is no slouch, seriously. The JBL kept popping, no popping with the QSC. There is amount of equalization that needs to happen to make the JBL ring off, but when it's right, it's dope. The EXT18sp was rented out at the time so I couldn't hear it, but the guy said I'll like it better than ALL of them when it comes back in. Brought my own music with varying levels of bass. Will be back again next week when the EV will be in the house. Stay tuned.

Joee 2:43 AM - 10 May, 2015

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Went to a spot a heard the JBL VRX vs. the QSC KW181. The 181 is no slouch, seriously. The JBL kept popping, no popping with the QSC.

where did you demo these speakers? the kw181 is more forgiving when being abused, however the vrx will sh!t all over the 181 in the hands of a experienced user

in short no way no how is the 181 better than the vrx……is the qsc better in the hands of someone that doesn't know what there doing? yes it is, because you can beat the hell out of it the built in protection is that good/forgiving

but no way does the qsc sound as good as the vrx…….who ever demoed the vrx bottomed it out

DJ Dub Cowboy 2:47 AM - 10 May, 2015

I bought them.

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easy... I have my eye on that one.

mostly so I don't have to wait for the covers to be in stock

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***Not for Johnny since he's already decided on tops but:

www.ebay.com

$1600 for a pair of RCF HD32A's with covers @ 1yr old. Add $4k for the 8004A subs and somebody's in business.

:-)

Joee, would you consider that a good deal for sparingly-used HD32A's with covers?

Joee 2:49 AM - 10 May, 2015

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I bought them.

there the perfect match to your 918's

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:56 AM - 10 May, 2015

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Went to a spot a heard the JBL VRX vs. the QSC KW181. The 181 is no slouch, seriously. The JBL kept popping, no popping with the QSC.

where did you demo these speakers? the kw181 is more forgiving when being abused, however the vrx will sh!t all over the 181 in the hands of a experienced user

in short no way no how is the 181 better than the vrx……is the qsc better in the hands of someone that doesn't know what there doing? yes it is, because you can beat the hell out of it the built in protection is that good/forgiving

but no way does the qsc sound as good as the vrx…….who ever demoed the vrx bottomed it out

lol, how are you gonna tell me what I HEARD? lmao...

Did you read what I said?

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There is amount of equalization that needs to happen to make the JBL ring off, but when it's right, it's dope.

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who ever demoed the vrx bottomed it out

I was the one who demoed the VRX....bought my own music, the guy let me handle the volume and I turned it up...

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where did you demo these speakers?

If I tell ya, I gotta kill ya.

Joee 11:53 AM - 10 May, 2015

i used to own vrx's & I've never made one "kept popping" /bottom out

man i don't know…….did you read the JBL Manuel

:-)

DJ Dub Cowboy 5:39 PM - 10 May, 2015

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I bought them.

there the perfect match to your 918's

If it's not you will be hearing all about it ;-)

DJ Dub Cowboy 5:39 PM - 10 May, 2015

if it is...

everyone else will just be hearing it

djsmuve415 6:26 PM - 10 May, 2015

Hey Joee - PM me if u can, please... got a couple of questions for u. got put in charge of buying a new system for a bar and need some input

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:01 PM - 10 May, 2015

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Hey Joee - PM me if u can, please... got a couple of questions for u. got put in charge of buying a new system for a bar and need some input

Oh laws, no matter what he says - Cerwin Vegas are still on the cutting edge of technology, and he will NOT read the manual.....lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:01 PM - 10 May, 2015

*Oh Lawd...

Joee 8:16 PM - 10 May, 2015

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Hey Joee - PM me if u can, please... got a couple of questions for u. got put in charge of buying a new system for a bar and need some input

Oh laws, no matter what he says - Cerwin Vegas are still on the cutting edge of technology, and he will NOT read the manual.....lol

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*Oh Lawd...

man you testing out speakers sounds like
www.todayifoundout.com

:-D

Joee 8:52 PM - 10 May, 2015

a interesting read here JM

"rayjthedj 12:21 PM - 28 February, 2015
I have four of the EV-ETX15SP subs. For a 15" sub they outperform many 18" subs including the QSC KW181 (which I owned).

Two ETX15SP's paired will outperform a single ETX18SP, I did that comparison at the store before I decided to go with four of the 15SP's over a pair of the 18SP's. It allows me to be more modular, but still get big bass in a gym if I couple all four subs.

The 18SP's will go a few hertz lower, but the 15SP's play down in the 30 hz range at -3 db and for all but a few DJs that will cover all you play, those that need more low end, will be playing with stacks of 18" or 21" subs."

i remember a few people saying this a few times, the etx15sp sounds like a 18"

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:26 PM - 10 May, 2015

Dude, I'm not buying 4 subs.

Joee 9:28 PM - 10 May, 2015

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Dude, I'm not buying 4 subs.

they won't www.flickr.com

:-)

did you read what he said? that 1 15" ev out preforms one qsc kw181

Taipanic 1:31 PM - 12 May, 2015

Really Johnny, you should just get the ETX-15 Tops and ETX 18 Subs and call it a day. Plenty loud enough, matching looks & performance, great DSP. If I were buying new today that would be my choice in that price range. You will never use the top 20% of the ZXa5s - if you do you will need 4 subs minimum. Unless I get some Danley subs, I will probably sell my ZXa5s in the next year or two and upgrade to more modern, DSP controlled boxes. If I do get some Danleys, I would still only keep the ZXa5s until I could get a pair of SM80s. The ZXa5s are great speakers but in real world usability, there are better options in the newer gear.

DJ GaFFle 1:47 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Really Johnny, you should just get the ETX-15 Tops and ETX 18 Subs and call it a day. Plenty loud enough, matching looks & performance, great DSP. If I were buying new today that would be my choice in that price range. You will never use the top 20% of the ZXa5s - if you do you will need 4 subs minimum. Unless I get some Danley subs, I will probably sell my ZXa5s in the next year or two and upgrade to more modern, DSP controlled boxes. If I do get some Danleys, I would still only keep the ZXa5s until I could get a pair of SM80s.The ZXa5s are great speakers but in real world usability, there are better options in the newer gear.

Great suggestion, points and summary.

Joee 1:51 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Really Johnny, you should just get the ETX-15 Tops and ETX 18 Subs and call it a day. Plenty loud enough, matching looks & performance, great DSP. If I were buying new today that would be my choice in that price range. You will never use the top 20% of the ZXa5s - if you do you will need 4 subs minimum. Unless I get some Danley subs, I will probably sell my ZXa5s in the next year or two and upgrade to more modern, DSP controlled boxes. If I do get some Danleys, I would still only keep the ZXa5s until I could get a pair of SM80s. The ZXa5s are great speakers but in real world usability, there are better options in the newer gear.

tried to tell him, he's hung up on this zxa5 thing……

i don't even use my zxa5 any more, to my knowledge pdidy doesn't even use them, i think he sold them

i got pricing on the x2 etx18sp/etx15p….& the pricing is much closer to his entail $3,400 budget

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:59 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Really Johnny, you should just get the ETX-15 Tops and ETX 18 Subs and call it a day. Plenty loud enough, matching looks & performance, great DSP. If I were buying new today that would be my choice in that price range. You will never use the top 20% of the ZXa5s - if you do you will need 4 subs minimum. Unless I get some Danley subs, I will probably sell my ZXa5s in the next year or two and upgrade to more modern, DSP controlled boxes. If I do get some Danleys, I would still only keep the ZXa5s until I could get a pair of SM80s. The ZXa5s are great speakers but in real world usability, there are better options in the newer gear.

Almost there, I'm definitely gonna get the ZXA5's and MOST LIKELY gonna get the ETX18SP's.... :-)

I think I DO want the DriveRack anyway.....just to have....

Right now my rack looks like this, www.djjohnnym.com and I've NEVER used the BBE except in the crib to round out the lows, and haven't used the Alesis Compressor / Limiter since at least 2004 in a live setting...

I have both the BBE and Limiter for pretty lights...lol

The Pre-Amp is shot as well....

So I'm about to get rid of those, along with the Cerwins, QSC 1500a, and mad speaker wire....

I think I'll get a 4 space rack, keep the Furman, get the DriveRack, get a 1 Rack Space mount EQ, and I REALLY want one of those Crown PSl2 preamps....mmmmmm....and I'll be good....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:02 PM - 12 May, 2015

Part 2 of the speaker shootout hopefully THIS weekend...

Stay tuned...!

Joee 2:03 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Part 2 of the speaker shootout hopefully THIS weekend...

Stay tuned...!

pop…pop…pop……………….pop

:-D

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:13 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Part 2 of the speaker shootout hopefully THIS weekend...

Stay tuned...!

pop…pop…pop……………….pop

:-D

Right, that was a straight A/B comparison between that and the 181.

I basically had to "Tune" the signal going into the JBL versus not having to do that with the QSC.

Stop giggling at errything man, it's not a good look!

Joee 2:15 PM - 12 May, 2015

:-/

better

DJ GaFFle 2:19 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Right, that was a straight A/B comparison between that and the 181.

I basically had to "Tune" the signal going into the JBL versus not having to do that with the QSC.

If you A/B the KW181 against the ETX18SP, make sure you try the different pre-sets on the ETX.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:24 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Right, that was a straight A/B comparison between that and the 181.

I basically had to "Tune" the signal going into the JBL versus not having to do that with the QSC.

If you A/B the KW181 against the ETX18SP, make sure you try the different pre-sets on the ETX.

Gotcha! Thanks sir...Hopefully all the speaker subs will be there this weekend...

Joee 2:25 PM - 12 May, 2015

if your going to guitar center for this test? throw the jbl 718xlf in to the mix….& do a etx15sp vs kw181 just for the hell of if

lets see if the 15" outperforms the 18"

DJ GaFFle 2:31 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Right, that was a straight A/B comparison between that and the 181.

I basically had to "Tune" the signal going into the JBL versus not having to do that with the QSC.

If you A/B the KW181 against the ETX18SP, make sure you try the different pre-sets on the ETX.

Gotcha! Thanks sir...Hopefully all the speaker subs will be there this weekend...

Another thing, try to insure the subs are on the floor and not wall display panel; that can resonant like crazy. Also, try and make sure the subs being tested are somewhat close to one another or in the same close vicinity. Room modes or nulls in sound can make you think a sub sounds crappy when it's really not. That particular area of the room could just be a dead spot for the boom. If you're serious about buying, the GC guys should be accomodating to move stuff around for you.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:36 PM - 12 May, 2015

Oh, and here's my playlist of songs to test with :-D

Watch www.youtube.com - Dance - Earth People (Beats)

Watch www.youtube.com - Dyin' to be Dancin' - Empress

Watch www.youtube.com - And There Ain't - DBX

Watch www.youtube.com - Bounce,Rock,Skate, Roll - Vaughn Mason and Crew Parts 1 & 2

Watch www.youtube.com - Chief Inspector - Wally Badarou

Watch www.youtube.com - Body Music - The Strikers

Watch www.youtube.com - You're The One For Me - D'Train

Watch www.youtube.com - Double Asunder - King Amazin

Watch www.youtube.com - Follow Me - Aly-Us

Watch www.youtube.com - Good Times - Chic

Watch www.youtube.com - Zulu - The Quick

Watch www.youtube.com - Punny Printer - Pan Head

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:37 PM - 12 May, 2015

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if your going to guitar center for this test?

I'm not going to GC....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:39 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Another thing, try to insure the subs are on the floor and not wall display panel; that can resonant like crazy. Also, try and make sure the subs being tested are somewhat close to one another or in the same close vicinity. Room modes or nulls in sound can make you think a sub sounds crappy when it's really not. That particular area of the room could just be a dead spot for the boom. If you're serious about buying,

Now THIS is a great idea, the place where I was had one sub on one wall and the other sub on the wall 90 degrees to the left....so basically one sub had a short wall to project against, while the other had the length of the floor...

Good call sir!

the GC guys should be accomodating to move stuff around for you.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:39 PM - 12 May, 2015

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the GC guys should be accommodating to move stuff around for you.

Not at GC...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:40 PM - 12 May, 2015

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throw the jbl 718xlf in to the mix….& do a etx15sp vs kw181 just for the hell of if

lets see if the 15" outperforms the 18"

Why? If they're not something I'm gonna buy?

Joee 2:44 PM - 12 May, 2015

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throw the jbl 718xlf in to the mix….& do a etx15sp vs kw181 just for the hell of if

lets see if the 15" outperforms the 18"

Why? If they're not something I'm gonna buy?

do you really have to ask?

you need an excuse to play with new toys?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:46 PM - 12 May, 2015

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do you really have to ask?

you need an excuse to play with new toys?

Oh, you YOU need a new excuse to buy something....

How about let me get what I NEED first, then "test" other stuff later....lmao.

Joee 3:00 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Oh, you YOU need a new excuse to buy something....

LMAO…… it's for the business "mayne"

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then "test" other stuff later....lmao

alright, we will have this conversation in 20 years when you ask our advise for your next upgrade…..lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:02 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Oh, you YOU need a new excuse to buy something....

LMAO…… it's for the business "mayne"

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then "test" other stuff later....lmao

alright, we will have this conversation in 20 years when you ask our advise for your next upgrade…..lol

Ha, these will be the last speakers I will ever buy...

Joee 3:05 PM - 12 May, 2015

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advise

advice advise tomato tamato

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:08 PM - 12 May, 2015

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advise

advice advise tomato tamato

Man if u and Beezle got your spelling and grammar on point, yall might be dangerous.

Joee 3:17 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Man if u and Beezle got your spelling and grammar on point, yall might be dangerous.

lol...

i don't take it thats serious….

unlike some people on here that let there emotions get the best of them, than try to deflect or use reverse psychology

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:58 PM - 12 May, 2015

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lol...

i don't take it that's serious….

unlike some people on here that let there emotions get the best of them, than try to deflect or use reverse psychology

You're doing this on purpose, ain't you?

Joee 4:04 PM - 12 May, 2015

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You're doing this on purpose, ain't you?

LMAO…….

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than

is it than then

i don't know…...lol

Taipanic 4:35 PM - 12 May, 2015

At the very least you should A/B the ZXa5/ETX15 and see how they compare. I would also recommend some new trap, EDM, and even Dubstep type tracks to your list of classics - not that you might play a lot of that but it will show you more of what the bottoms can do, more so than classic tracks.

DJ Dub Cowboy 5:56 PM - 12 May, 2015

Hey Johnny,

If you are set on the ZXA5s then one of these guys trying to talk you out of it will probably sell you a pair at a great price.

Joee 6:03 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hey Johnny,

If you are set on the ZXA5s then one of these guys trying to talk you out of it will probably sell you a pair at a great price.

i told him about someone in philly selling a pair with the ev bags for $1,000 each

he's not buying used……

the build in DSP in the ETX line is a major advantage in my book & IMO speakers sound better in a wood box

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:32 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hey Johnny,

If you are set on the ZXA5s then one of these guys trying to talk you out of it will probably sell you a pair at a great price.

Thanks, but going "New" so I can yell at somebody if need be.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:35 PM - 12 May, 2015

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At the very least you should A/B the ZXa5/ETX15 and see how they compare. I would also recommend some new trap, EDM, and even Dubstep type tracks to your list of classics - not that you might play a lot of that but it will show you more of what the bottoms can do, more so than classic tracks.

Eh, I'll never play EDM or Trap....I need to know what they can do with the exact songs I'd play, but thanks!

DJ Dub Cowboy 9:20 PM - 12 May, 2015

Is anybody here still recommending Johnny buys the ZXA5?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:22 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Is anybody here still recommending Johnny buys the ZXA5?

lol, doesn't really matter...

I got my mind made up... :-)

Ha, it was all good a few MONTHS ago....cthu...

Besides this thread was for OPINIONS to help me shape my choice, and my choice (for tops) has been made.... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:26 PM - 12 May, 2015

The truth is that I know EXACTLY what "my" needs are, even if I haven't fully detailed them in this thread...

I also know what I have anticipated for the "future".

I also know how much space I have in my vehicle.

I also know what y'all have said about the ZXA5's in the past...

All these other "Tops" only 1 or 2 cats own, or hell DON'T even own, but a LOT of y'all own the ZXA5's....

So, I go with what's tried, true, and trusted....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:26 PM - 12 May, 2015

Hell, nobody even OWNS the RCF 745a, or maybe one person....lol.

Joee 9:44 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hell, nobody even OWNS the RCF 745a, or maybe one person....lol.

not yet…….lol, in pdidy's words it's a want not a need

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Is anybody here still recommending Johnny buys the ZXA5?

yes and no, it is the best 15" two way that we know of, the jury's still out on the art 745

ZXA5 vs ETX15P…...if i were buying today i would probably go with the etx….like i said the on board dsp is a major advantage

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:15 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hell, nobody even OWNS the RCF 745a, or maybe one person....lol.

not yet…….lol, in pdidy's words it's a want not a need

Right, but that also means IT'S NOT PROVEN.....Whereas the ZXA5 is...

I'm not buying version 1.0 of anything....

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it is the best 15" two way that we know of, ~~the jury's still out on the art 745~~

That's all I need to know...lol...Case CLOSED...

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ZXA5 vs ETX15P…...if i were buying today i would probably go with the etx ….like i said the on board dsp is a major advantage

But wait....

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Joee 9:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

Case CLOSED....lol...

Joee 10:56 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Case CLOSED....lol...

lol…….man you buy what you want …..your the one that has to live with your purchase

it really doesn't mater what speaker you buy ,you will be upgrading from them dusty jawns

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:59 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Case CLOSED....lol...

lol…….man you buy what you want …..your the one that has to live with your purchase

it really doesn't mater what speaker you buy ,you will be upgrading from them dusty jawns

LMAO @ your own werds coming back to haunt you....

This is great....

DJ Dub Cowboy 11:06 PM - 12 May, 2015

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I'm not buying version 1.0 of anything....

you don't think the tech in the ZXA5 and all the R&D since that was released isn't in the ETX line?

I was in the EV booth the last three years at NAMM. They aren't pushing the ZXAs

The biggest reason I think you should reconsider is that the same people praising the ZXA5s are the same people that are telling you two 18" subs won't keep up with them.

The ETX has been out two and half years, it isn't 1.0 anymore.

Joee 11:06 PM - 12 May, 2015

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LMAO @ your own werds coming back to haunt you....

This is great....

???????

come on son, my words are not haunting me……yes the zxa5 loud, you said loud is what you wanted, you defiantly got it with the zxa5

but is that the only thing you look for in a speaker? the newer etx has a few clear advantages over the zxa5

Joee 11:09 PM - 12 May, 2015

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you don't think the tech in the ZXA5 and all the R&D since that was released isn't in the ETX line?

I was in the EV booth the last three years at NAMM. They aren't pushing the ZXAs

The biggest reason I think you should reconsider is that the same people praising the ZXA5s are the same people that are telling you two 18" subs won't keep up with them.

The ETX has been out two and half years, it isn't 1.0 anymore.

stop ……there is no getting thru to this man…….lol

honestly he is buying a great speaker, there is no wrong choice here

i just think he want the LOOUUUDDDD zxa5 cause he's def ….lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:14 PM - 12 May, 2015

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The ETX has been out two and half years, it isn't 1.0 anymore.

But wait....

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Joee 9:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

and

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The biggest reason I think you should reconsider is that the same people praising the ZXA5s are the same people that are telling you two 18" subs won't keep up with them.

WHO keeps saying I am gonna push them to where I needed more than 2 - 18" subs????

And TRUTH be told, nobody has crowned a CLEAR Predecessor for the ZXA5 as far as loudness is concerned...

Pdidy went his way because of certain reasons, and so did Joee after the ZXA5, but NEITHER of them chose the same speaker afterwards....lol.

Personal preference...

On top of that, like I said, NOBODY (well maybe ONE person) has the RCF 745a....lol..

Y'all just gotta be comfortable with my selection....

I am.... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:16 PM - 12 May, 2015

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come on son, my words are not haunting me……yes the zxa5 loud, you said loud is what you wanted, you efiantly got it with the zxa5

Right, that's the clear winner...

I'm not prone to blowing speakers :-), I know what to listen for....so the ZXA5 is not a problem for me...

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but is that the only thing you look for in a speaker? the newer etx has a few clear advantages over the zxa5

That's the only thing I NEED right now from THAT speaker, everything else is covered....

Y'all buggin...

desmorider 11:19 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hell, nobody even OWNS the RCF 745a, or maybe one person....lol.

Theirs at least 3 guys on here that own the 745's, including me. My final two contenders were zxa5, and 745a.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:24 PM - 12 May, 2015

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honestly he is buying a great speaker, there is no wrong choice here

i just think he want the LOOUUUDDDD zxa5 cause he's def ….lol

Hey, at LEAST I won't blow them... :-).

And again....

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Joee 9:34 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Seriously? That jawn was LOOOUUDDD...and you're saying the ZXA5 is LOUDER than that?

YEEESSS!!!

lol....

I'll take LOOOUUUDDD for 300 Alex...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:28 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hell, nobody even OWNS the RCF 745a, or maybe one person....lol.

Theirs at least 3 guys on here that own the 745's, including me. My final two contenders were zxa5, and 745a.

Ok, that's cool, but again...

The ZXA5 has NOT been "De-Throned" as the end all of 2-Way Powered 15"s...

I don't see what the problem is....I've taken things into consideration, including Branding (Gaffle), and wanna get down with EV...lol..

Whut's the prollum? LMAO...

I like having the additional LLLOOOUUUDDDNEESSS in case somebody shows up with an extra set of subs one day....

DJ Dub Cowboy 11:30 PM - 12 May, 2015

so wait...you are set on the ZXA5 because they are louder but

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WHO keeps saying I am gonna push them to where I needed more than 2 - 18" subs????

Joee 11:30 PM - 12 May, 2015

@JM CTFU……..

@desmorider

are you the one that did the side by side comparison between the etx15p zxa5 & art745?

i know someone on the board!

Joee 11:31 PM - 12 May, 2015

^ someone on the board did

Joee 11:31 PM - 12 May, 2015

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so wait...you are set on the ZXA5 because they are louder but

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WHO keeps saying I am gonna push them to where I needed more than 2 - 18" subs????

all man you walked into that one JM…lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:32 PM - 12 May, 2015

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so wait...you are set on the ZXA5 because they are louder but

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WHO keeps saying I am gonna push them to where I needed more than 2 - 18" subs????

And????

Joee 11:34 PM - 12 May, 2015

correct me if i'm wrong here JM

but i think JM wants zxa5 because they sound real nice & hit pretty good when not being used with a sub……for a stand alone two way, they sound as if you had a sub

desmorider 11:35 PM - 12 May, 2015

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@JM CTFU……..

@desmorider

are you the one that did the side by side comparison between the etx15p zxa5 & art745?

i know someone on the board!

Yes i did. Listened to a bunch of stuff back to back same day. Salesperson said that he would no longer feel comfortable selling the zxa5, when he could sell the 745a $100 cheaper. It was pretty funny because that was the first 745 that they pulled from their warehouse to setup in the showroom.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:36 PM - 12 May, 2015

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correct me if i'm wrong here JM

but i think JM wants zxa5 because they sound real nice & hit pretty good when not being used with a sub……for a stand alone two way, they sound as if you had a sub

I answered all those questions earlier in the thread.... :-)

Joee 11:36 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Yes i did. Listened to a bunch of stuff back to back same day. Salesperson said that he would no longer feel comfortable selling the zxa5, when he could sell the 745a $100 cheaper. It was pretty funny because that was the first 745 that they pulled from their warehouse to setup in the showroom.

loudness zxa5 vs 745, what you think? also did you peep the video of the 8003 MKII?

desmorider 11:37 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Hell, nobody even OWNS the RCF 745a, or maybe one person....lol.

Theirs at least 3 guys on here that own the 745's, including me. My final two contenders were zxa5, and 745a.

Ok, that's cool, but again...

The ZXA5 has NOT been "De-Throned" as the end all of 2-Way Powered 15"s...

I don't see what the problem is....I've taken things into consideration, including Branding (Gaffle), and wanna get down with EV...lol..

Whut's the prollum? LMAO...

I like having the additional LLLOOOUUUDDDNEESSS in case somebody shows up with an extra set of subs one day....

Do you Bee. I can't spend your cheddar. Your loot, your speakers.

ONE

Joee 11:38 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

I answered all those questions earlier in the thread.... :-)

come on son , we are having pleasant gear convo…..your starting to sound like that other forum member…….lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:38 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

Do you Bee. I can't spend your cheddar. Your loot, your speakers.

ONE

Man, you better tell that to Joee, mugs are startin' to get a lil' obsessed....

Just sayin....lmao.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:39 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

I answered all those questions earlier in the thread.... :-)

come on son , we are having pleasant gear convo…..your starting to sound like that other forum member…….lol

Dude, search is YOUR FRIEND.....

Joee 11:40 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

Dude, search is YOUR FRIEND....

dude mc search was pretty dope for a white boy……but no we are not friends

:-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:41 PM - 12 May, 2015

Some of y'all startin' to act like you buy a car that goes EXACTLY 55MPH...

Don't you want a few extra horses under the hood?

Man look, it was all good in January....lmao.

desmorider 11:43 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

Yes i did. Listened to a bunch of stuff back to back same day. Salesperson said that he would no longer feel comfortable selling the zxa5, when he could sell the 745a $100 cheaper. It was pretty funny because that was the first 745 that they pulled from their warehouse to setup in the showroom.

loudness zxa5 vs 745, what you think? also did you peep the video of the 8003 MKII?

Cranked them both stupid loud in the showroom until it was interfering with other shoppers and salesman. The 745a went blow for blow with the zxa5. The 745 was not pushed to the clip indicator, and the zxa5 was not push to the point it sounded harsh.(as stated by zxa5 owners). 745 also had just as much or a tad more bass as tested.

Joee 11:43 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

Some of y'all startin' to act like you buy a car that goes EXACTLY 55MPH...

you have a good & valid point here But!

would you have bought your ford explorer if it didn't have air bags or brakes?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:45 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Man look, it was all good in January....lmao.

Quote:

Joee 9:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

AND

Quote:

Joee 9:34 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Seriously? That jawn was LOOOUUDDD...and you're saying the ZXA5 is LOUDER than that?

YEEESSS!!!

lmao...

Joee 11:45 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

Cranked them both stupid loud in the showroom until it was interfering with other shoppers and salesman. The 745a went blow for blow with the zxa5. The 745 was not pushed to the clip indicator, and the zxa5 was not push to the point it sounded harsh.(as stated by zxa5 owners). 745 also had just as much or a tad more bass as tested.

thank you sir…….the art 745-a just might have dethroned the zxa5……maybe

Joee 11:47 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Man look, it was all good in January....lmao.

Quote:

Joee 9:20 PM - 7 January, 2015

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Now, I heard that ETX-15P, and that jawn is LOUUUUDDD....

So how is that compared to the ZXA5?

the zxa5 is LOUUUUDDDDDEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!

AND

Quote:

Joee 9:34 PM - 7 January, 2015

Quote:

Seriously? That jawn was LOOOUUDDD...and you're saying the ZXA5 is LOUDER than that?

YEEESSS!!!

lmao...

"Joee 7:43 PM - 12 May, 2015
Quote:
Some of y'all startin' to act like you buy a car that goes EXACTLY 55MPH...

you have a good & valid point here But!

would you have bought your ford explorer if it didn't have air bags or brakes?"

don't dance around it johnny cochran answer the question sir!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:47 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

Some of y'all startin' to act like you buy a car that goes EXACTLY 55MPH...

you have a good & valid point here But!

would you have bought your ford explorer if it didn't have air bags or brakes?

You're starting to weird me out man....

What you MEANT to ask was would I have bought the Explorer if it didn't have a little warning light to tell me that I have air bags...

or brakes for that matter....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:48 PM - 12 May, 2015

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thank you sir…….the art 745-a just might have dethroned the zxa5……maybe

LMAO @ spending over 2600.00 bucks on "Maybe's"...

Joee 11:52 PM - 12 May, 2015

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You're starting to weird me out man....

What you MEANT to ask was would I have bought the Explorer if it didn't have a little warning light to tell me that I have air bags...

or brakes for that matter....

CTFU…….gtfo…….lol

no….the question was clear sir actual air bags & brakes

Quote:

LMAO @ spending over 2600.00 bucks on "Maybe's".

$2,240

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:54 PM - 12 May, 2015

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no….the question was clear sir actual air bags & brakes

***sigh** Ok, I'll play along...

So you're TELLING me if they'd make a car without brakes...right?

Let's be clear...

desmorider 11:57 PM - 12 May, 2015

Johnny,
What price you getting on the zxa5? $1300 each?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:57 PM - 12 May, 2015

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Johnny,
What price you getting on the zxa5? $1300 each?

Pretty much...

Joee 11:59 PM - 12 May, 2015

Quote:

***sigh** Ok, I'll play along...

So you're TELLING me if they'd make a car without brakes...right?

Let's be clear...

o they have made cars without brakes, if you are a car guy like me & watch velocity all day long, you know they have made some cars that technically had brakes but didn't work so well

ok lets forget about the brakes than, if your ford explorer didn't offer air bags would you have bought it?

desmorider 11:59 PM - 12 May, 2015

Have not seen 8003mkII video. Where can i find it?

Joee 12:00 AM - 13 May, 2015

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Johnny,
What price you getting on the zxa5? $1300 each?

Pretty much...

your welcome

;-)

Joee 12:00 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Have not seen 8003mkII video. Where can i find it?

Watch www.youtube.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:02 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

ok lets forget about the brakes than, if your ford explorer didn't offer air bags would you have bought it?

No, let's STICK with your initial statement (that you've obviously just re-thought), and stay with the Brakes analogy...

Again...so you're telling me they'd make a CAR without BRAKES, and offer it to the public?

Am I understanding you correctly?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:02 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

no….the question was clear sir actual air bags & brakes

***sigh** Ok, I'll play along...

So you're TELLING me if they'd make a car without brakes...right?

Let's be clear...

Yes, the ZXA5 is a car without brakes. It doesn't have extra ponies... it has the lack of a limiter.

It has the same driver as the ETX (without the limiter and DSP).

So why did so many people on here buy a CAR without Brakes?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:03 AM - 13 May, 2015

Case closed...

Joee 12:03 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

It has the same driver as the ETX (without the limiter and DSP).

really? i never knew this….the zxa5 & the etx15p have the same driver? i always thought the etx was just a active tour x 15"

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:08 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Buy what you'd like, bro. I'm just pointing out the facts. Different strokes/different folks. All of the speakers that you considered are great IMO.

But again, I'm just going with Joee's analogy....and now you co-signing the "Brake" thing...

WHY did so many people here buy a CAR with NO BRAKES?

Or better yet, y'all are trying to tell me that at LEAST of the 3 most "Knowledgeable" speaker cats on here spent over 2600 .00 bucks on a set of speakers with no "Protection", and are now regretting that choice?

Is that what y'all are saying?

lol...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:10 AM - 13 May, 2015

And are recommending a speaker that "MAY BE" better than it? lol...

C'mon man...

Joee 12:10 AM - 13 May, 2015

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No, ETX has a DVX Driver

yes the etx subs's have dvx woofers, the etx tops have smx woofers

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:12 AM - 13 May, 2015

LMAO....

This is great....

desmorider 12:15 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Have not seen 8003mkII video. Where can i find it?

Watch www.youtube.com

Nice. Thanks. How long do you think it will take for the 8004mkII?

DJ GaFFle 12:15 AM - 13 May, 2015

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It has the same driver as the ETX (without the limiter and DSP).

really? i never knew this….the zxa5 & the etx15p have the same driver? i always thought the etx was just a active tour x 15"

I'm not too sure about that.

Quote:

No, ETX has a DVX Driver

According to this: www.electrovoice.com the ETX15P has an SMX woofer. The highs are definitely different (smaller) than the ZXA5's too as is the amp module. EV didn't cut any corners on the ZXA5. That speaker was pushing $2k each when it first came out.

Joee 12:15 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

cats on here spent over 2600 .00 bucks on a set of speakers with no "Protection", and are now regretting that choice?

Is that what y'all are saying?

lol...

never that ……but you know that, thats why your buying them

the zxa5 is a fast supper car with no air bags brakes or traction control

the etx15p is a super car with air bags brakes & traction control

either way as long as you know how to drive you will be ok…….lol

DJ GaFFle 12:17 AM - 13 May, 2015

The ZXA5 has the DVX driver.

Joee 12:20 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Nice. Thanks. How long do you think it will take for the 8004mkII?

that speaker if fairly new….it will be a while before we se the mmii version if at all

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:20 AM - 13 May, 2015

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I'm just pointing out the facts.

and just like that ...

Quote:

Yup, that right, my mistake.

So this is why I do a COLLECTIVE level of research here...

The FACT is that "Knowledgeable" cats on here bought the ZXA5.

The FACT is that the 745a hasn't officially "De-Throned" the ZXA5.

The FACT is that everything else is just personal preference....from how "Loud" you think you'll want or need to go, to your ability to run a speaker without a "Built In" Limiter....

Oh, and that it's LOOOOUUUUUDDDDDDDDDD.....lol.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:21 AM - 13 May, 2015

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And with that change most people would buy differently today.

Right, and when they DO, and I see the trend, and IF I'm in the market, I'll follow accordingly...

But truth be told, nothing else has "Proven" itself to be LOUDER (or better) than the ZXA5's...as of yet.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:23 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

According to this: www.electrovoice.com the ETX15P has an SMX woofer. The highs are definitely different (smaller) than the ZXA5's too as is the amp module.

See? Yet ANOTHER angle....

But this is what matters to me ->

Quote:

EV didn't cut any corners on the ZXA5. That speaker was pushing $2k each when it first came out.

And EVERYBODY agreed with that sentiment at one time or another....

Case closed....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:24 AM - 13 May, 2015

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either way as long as you know how to drive you will be ok…….lol

Exactly, so again...Case Closed....

lmao. @ "No Brakes"....mmmkay...

Joee 12:36 AM - 13 May, 2015

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lmao. @ "No Brakes"....mmmkay...

YO it's a known fact i can attest to…………lol, if you have a heavy foot and give the zxa5 gas it will not slow down…..it will rip itself right of the voice coil

*****disclaimer*****

i wasn't dj'ing that day, someone else was & he payed the recone fee, this same thing has happened to pdidy as well

now on the other hand if you have a heavy foot & give the etx15p gas, it has all that fuel saving technology that says …….woo there buddy take it easy i'm going to turn this down for you cause gas is expensive, let me slow this down for you buddy

***WOOO there nelly***

speaker saved

Joee 12:44 AM - 13 May, 2015

this is what happens when you don't have breaks……JM

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it's not a pretty sight……..lol

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:10 AM - 13 May, 2015

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Have not seen 8003mkII video. Where can i find it?

Watch www.youtube.com

hmmm. can't wait to hear them

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:17 AM - 13 May, 2015

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this is what happens when you don't have breaks……JM

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it's not a pretty sight……..lol

No, that's what happens when you DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE......

Man, I ain't Sixxx.....:-P

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:24 AM - 13 May, 2015

And right here -

Quote:

DJ GaFFle 12:17 PM - 6 January, 2015

1 top and 1 sub per side....
So yeah, as far as tops...

ZXA5's tops...
△ Louder than all affordable powered 2-way tops (period)
△ 15" driver (sounds great standalone for crowds up to 150 or so)
△ Looks better than most powered tops. (tuxedo look for wedding pics/subdued design)
△ Made in USA
△ Can get raspy/harsh as the loudest volumes
△ No limiting and requires external limiting device (eg: DriveRack) for best protection
△ Only 50 lbs
△ Pole mountable and flyable

RCF 745A...
△ 4" high compression driver (gets smooth, loud and clear)
△ Lower crossover point due to 4" driver (projects a tighter, farther, more focused sound)
△ Built-in limiter
△ Lighter than the ZXA5
△ Made in Italy
△ No LPF (your sub or an external DSP will need a HPF)
△ Edgy looks

The guys above mentioned some very solid options with these two tops. Toss up right here buddy...

Again....lmao....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:27 AM - 13 May, 2015

And I heard THIS loud and clear -

Quote:

DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:50 AM - 7 January, 2015
The advantages of the ETX vs the ZAX5 is the new speakers have the limiters & DSP built it.

That was said IN JANUARY....lol...

Ain't nuffin' changed since then...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:29 AM - 13 May, 2015

And this

Quote:

Taipanic 2:11 PM - 6 January, 2015
For what your wanting I think you should go with the ZXa5s for tops. You know the rep, they have the power you need and you have the experience to not blow them up on the first gig.

lol...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:31 AM - 13 May, 2015

And here -

Quote:

desmorider 12:01 PM - 6 January, 2015
I say either
2-zxa5's and 1or 2 etx18sp's

Or

2-art745a's and 1 or 2 rcf 8004 or 8003 subs

Do realize that if you enjoy lots of bass you will at some point want to add more subs.

Ha, guess which one I picked? lmao...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:35 AM - 13 May, 2015

And even YOU AGAIN YOURSELF Joee -

Quote:

Joee 12:36 PM - 8 January, 2015
Is it safe to say at this point that you can't go wrong with either the 745 or the ZXA5?

Quote:

i'd say yes

most dj's will never need the volume levels the zxa5 can produce

:-)

Joee 1:38 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

No, that's what happens when you DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE......

Man, I ain't Sixxx.....:-P

well you know they say Chixx don't know how to drive

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:39 AM - 13 May, 2015

And from the great Pdidy himself -

Quote:

pdidy 7:24 PM - 8 January, 2015
In regards to the rcf 745 vs zxa5, I would pick the 745 for ONE reason. Ease of use aka no driverack required.

And since I want to become familiar with the DriveRack anyway.......

It's all GRAVY Grady!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:40 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

No, that's what happens when you DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE......

Man, I ain't Sixxx.....:-P

well you know they say Chixx don't know how to drive

So you admit you have female driving skills?

Is that what you're saying?

DJ Guayo 1:41 AM - 13 May, 2015

What are we gonna talk about after JM buys his speakers? Lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:42 AM - 13 May, 2015

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What are we gonna talk about after JM buys his speakers? Lol

How they missed the opportunity for me to spend THOUSANDS of dollars on stuff Joee hasn't bought yet....lmao.

Joee 1:44 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

And even YOU AGAIN YOURSELF Joee -

Quote:

Joee 12:36 PM - 8 January, 2015
Is it safe to say at this point that you can't go wrong with either the 745 or the ZXA5?

Quote:

i'd say yes

most dj's will never need the volume levels the zxa5 can produce

:-)

lol……

buy them zxa5's …….than we can talk for 3 months about what bags you should buy

:-)

Quote:

So you admit you have female driving skills?

Is that what you're saying?

negative …..i already said i was Not dj'ing that day……but you did say your not sixxx

:-)

Quote:

What are we gonna talk about after JM buys his speakers? Lol

speaker bags "WOTCH"

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:53 AM - 13 May, 2015

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lol……

buy them zxa5's …….than we can talk for 3 months about what bags you should buy

:-)

Nope, y'all already told me to get tukicovers.com

Quote:

What are we gonna talk about after JM buys his speakers? Lol

speaker bags "WOTCH"

That was covered in another thread.... :-)

Joee 1:56 AM - 13 May, 2015

i'm'a save you some trouble JM

what cover should JM buy? witch one is softer? witch one offers more protection? witch one looks better? witch one is water proof? witch one looks better? witch one protects the speaker better? etc? etc? etc?

www.ebay.com

www.ebay.com

www.kpodj.com

:-)

Joee 1:57 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Nope, y'all already told me to get tukicovers.com

negative the original ev cover allow you to stack the speakers, something the tuki does not allow

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:01 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Nope, y'all already told me to get tukicovers.com

negative the original ev cover allow you to stack the speakers, something the tuki does not allow

I don't need to stack anything...lol.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:08 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

What are we gonna talk about after JM buys his speakers? Lol

JM's blown speaker thread will keep us busy.

J/K

Oh, that was already covered here -

Quote:

Joee 9:45 AM - 8 January, 2015
How did YOU blow YOUR ZXA5's?

Quote:

the answer to the question is

letting someone else play on them that does not know what there doing & how to use there ears, I've never had issues playing on my zxa5 neither did pdidy

when did our speaker blow when someone else was on the controls,i don't think that you will have any issues

And -

Quote:

pdidy 6:30 PM - 8 January, 2015
Well you've come to the right person, Im pretty much an expert on how to blow a zxa5.

1. while using the zxa5 as a floor wedge dj monitor a dj jammed his coat behind it cutting off all air flow. (Amp blew)

2. Client failed to provide tents in 100+ degree direct sun light, my contract covered me for damages so I continued. (Amp blew)

3. A dj had all masters an gains within serato maxed out, solid red on all meter and heavily distorted at loud volume. He fried both horn an woofer in less than 5-10 min. I failed to check his setting before letting him on therefore it was my fault.

4. A dj playing on a vci300 connected directly to a zxa5 at a small event. This is a very bad idea when playing along with djs that dont know how to stay out of the red because the vci300 has very low output and a line mixer is REQUIRED for high volume. I warned the dj multiple times about staying out of red but he refused to listen stating " I know what im doin I been djing for years my dude, just chill out I got this". ....lol I didnt want to fuck up the party so I arranged payment with the promoter. The dj fried the horn first then woofer about 30 min prior to party end time and didnt get paid.

I would expect most speaker to blow under these conditions, the ONE exception being the QSC k/kw series which Ive personally witnessed take insane amounts of abuse on many occasions and continue to operate perfectly.

Y'all need to start paying attention, we've covered ERRYTHING!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:43 AM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Well everything is covered, everything is clear, everything if factual, everything has been debated (to exhaustion), and everything has been decided... so when are you going to place the order?

Stay tuned...

Joee 12:11 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

pdidy 6:30 PM - 8 January, 2015
Well you've come to the right person, Im pretty much an expert on how to blow a zxa5.

1. while using the zxa5 as a floor wedge dj monitor a dj jammed his coat behind it cutting off all air flow. (Amp blew)

2. Client failed to provide tents in 100+ degree direct sun light, my contract covered me for damages so I continued. (Amp blew)

3. A dj had all masters an gains within serato maxed out, solid red on all meter and heavily distorted at loud volume. He fried both horn an woofer in less than 5-10 min. I failed to check his setting before letting him on therefore it was my fault.

4. A dj playing on a vci300 connected directly to a zxa5 at a small event. This is a very bad idea when playing along with djs that dont know how to stay out of the red because the vci300 has very low output and a line mixer is REQUIRED for high volume. I warned the dj multiple times about staying out of red but he refused to listen stating " I know what im doin I been djing for years my dude, just chill out I got this". ....lol I didnt want to fuck up the party so I arranged payment with the promoter. The dj fried the horn first then woofer about 30 min prior to party end time and didnt get paid.

I would expect most speaker to blow under these conditions, the ONE exception being the QSC k/kw series which Ive personally witnessed take insane amounts of abuse on many occasions and continue to operate perfectly.

damn i never realized his blu 4 times

Quote:

Nope, y'all already told me to get tukicovers.com

negative the original ev cover allow you to stack the speakers, something the tuki does not allow

I don't need to stack anything...lol.

well the original ev jawns are cheaper, & have that nice ev logo

www.bhphotovideo.com

DJ GaFFle 2:31 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

pdidy 6:30 PM - 8 January, 2015
Well you've come to the right person, Im pretty much an expert on how to blow a zxa5.

1. while using the zxa5 as a floor wedge dj monitor a dj jammed his coat behind it cutting off all air flow. (Amp blew)

2. Client failed to provide tents in 100+ degree direct sun light, my contract covered me for damages so I continued. (Amp blew)

3. A dj had all masters an gains within serato maxed out, solid red on all meter and heavily distorted at loud volume. He fried both horn an woofer in less than 5-10 min. I failed to check his setting before letting him on therefore it was my fault.

4. A dj playing on a vci300 connected directly to a zxa5 at a small event. This is a very bad idea when playing along with djs that dont know how to stay out of the red because the vci300 has very low output and a line mixer is REQUIRED for high volume. I warned the dj multiple times about staying out of red but he refused to listen stating " I know what im doin I been djing for years my dude, just chill out I got this". ....lol I didnt want to fuck up the party so I arranged payment with the promoter. The dj fried the horn first then woofer about 30 min prior to party end time and didnt get paid.

I would expect most speaker to blow under these conditions, the ONE exception being the QSC k/kw series which Ive personally witnessed take insane amounts of abuse on many occasions and continue to operate perfectly.

damn i never realized his blu 4 times

Quote:

Nope, y'all already told me to get tukicovers.com

negative the original ev cover allow you to stack the speakers, something the tuki does not allow

I don't need to stack anything...lol.

well the original ev jawns are cheaper, & have that nice ev logo

www.bhphotovideo.com

Yeah but no Velcro strap at the bottom.

Joee 2:37 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Yeah but no Velcro strap at the bottom.

the new tuki actually looks like it completely covers the bottom now

www.ebay.com

Taipanic 2:41 PM - 13 May, 2015

Time to drop it. The ZXa5s will be a great choice for him. He plans to use driverack, isn't playing trap and overcompressed EDM at crazy levels and will be more speaker than he will ever need. Look at the ZXA5 as a '67 Corvette - it will always be an awesome performer and will always impress but will have a few quirks. The new DSP premium models are like a 2015 Vette - just as much usable power, more features, more usability but not as time tested and have more stuff to break. Can't go wrong with either choice as long as you are good with the needs and issues of each. On to the subs and DSP. I still recommend the ETX subs and think a DC-One will be better than a Driverack.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:19 PM - 13 May, 2015

Maybe ya'll should give him some limiter settings instructions for the Driverack.

Joee 4:21 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Maybe ya'll should give him some limiter settings instructions for the Driverack.

no need, you know he will be reading that manual…….lol

DJ Dub Cowboy 5:55 PM - 13 May, 2015

you really can't go wrong here Johnny. I think we just need you to show us some new gear pr0n now.

Joee 6:01 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

I think we just need you to show us some new gear pr0n now.

man You need to show us those new hd32's

;-)

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:07 PM - 13 May, 2015

next monday.

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:11 PM - 13 May, 2015

I'm going to seriously consider those 8003 Mk2s when they show up for a complete RCF system.

Maybe round out the VRXs with some of the SRX powered tops for two uniformly branded systems. (rental status)

Joee 6:12 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

I'm going to seriously consider those 8003 Mk2s when they show up for a complete RCF system.

Maybe round out the VRXs with some of the SRX powered tops for two uniformly branded systems. (rental status)

good idea ,peep the other new rcf 18" sub here it's only 83lbs
www.rcf.it

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:40 PM - 13 May, 2015

Quote:

Maybe ya'll should give him some limiter settings instructions for the Driverack.

no need, you know he will be reading that manual…….lol

No need for a manual - settings right hurr ->

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DJ GaFFle 7:03 AM - 13 December, 2014
Which filter do use on your Driverack with your subs & zx a5 the Link Riley or Butterworth 6,12,18 or 24?

I typically use L-R 24 for a sharper cutoff, less bleeding of sound and smoother transition around the crossover region.

:-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:41 PM - 13 May, 2015

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you really can't go wrong here Johnny. I think we just need you to show us some new gear pr0n now.

I BEEN known I can't go wrong since January....cats steady trying to change my mind...lmao.

Stay tuned....

Joee 6:43 PM - 13 May, 2015

what? your not reading the DR manual?

you must be busy reading the ford explorer manual

:-)

Joee 6:46 PM - 13 May, 2015

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I BEEN known I can't go wrong since January....cats steady trying to change my mind...lmao.

Stay tuned....

we not trying to change your mind, just informing you that there is another option form ev that has all the bells & whistles……but since you will be using a drive rack it doesn't really matter, it has more bells & whistles

DJ Val-BKNY11203 6:55 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Maybe ya'll should give him some limiter settings instructions for the Driverack.

no need, you know he will be reading that manual…….lol

No need for a manual - settings right hurr ->

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DJ GaFFle 7:03 AM - 13 December, 2014
Which filter do use on your Driverack with your subs & zx a5 the Link Riley or Butterworth 6,12,18 or 24?

I typically use L-R 24 for a sharper cutoff, less bleeding of sound and smoother transition around the crossover region.

:-)

LOL Yo son they can say what they want, but you are on top of it all. No details missed.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:02 PM - 13 May, 2015

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I BEEN known I can't go wrong since January....cats steady trying to change my mind...lmao.

Stay tuned....

we not trying to change your mind, just informing you that there is another option form ev that has all the bells & whistles……but since you will be using a drive rack it doesn't really matter, it has more bells & whistles

Joee,

I've BEEN said that I was settled on the ZXA5 since....JANUARY son....

I don't need more "bells and whistles"....and to tell you the truth I don't "NEED" the DriveRack, but it will be nice to have....so I'll probably get it....or maybe I won't... :-0.

Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

Joee 7:06 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

lol…..get the DR bro, it's cheap insurance …….trust me…….lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:13 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Maybe ya'll should give him some limiter settings instructions for the Driverack.

no need, you know he will be reading that manual…….lol

No need for a manual - settings right hurr ->

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DJ GaFFle 7:03 AM - 13 December, 2014
Which filter do use on your Driverack with your subs & zx a5 the Link Riley or Butterworth 6,12,18 or 24?

I typically use L-R 24 for a sharper cutoff, less bleeding of sound and smoother transition around the crossover region.

:-)

LOL Yo son they can say what they want, but you are on top of it all. No details missed.

Man, say that *ish again....

I basically knew what I was up against when you said this -

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DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:50 AM - 7 January, 2015
The advantages of the ETX vs the ZAX5 is the new speakers have the limiters & DSP built it.

That answers EVERYTHING right thurr....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:14 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

lol…..get the DR bro, it's cheap insurance …….trust me…….lol

I'll think about it...

Maybe create a thread....

DJ GaFFle 7:16 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

lol…..get the DR bro, it's cheap insurance …….trust me…….lol

Dude, I have an EV DC One and these dudes have me 2nd guessing like that DriveRack PA2 may be a step up, LoL. I don't think it is but it's probably more user friendly with a few extra features and iPad ability.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:17 PM - 13 May, 2015

And as for the EV ETX18SP, y'all talking about that over here -> serato.com

All the answers are in these threads, and across the different cats who actually HAVE these boxes, and those who know their way around a PA system in the first place...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:18 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

lol…..get the DR bro, it's cheap insurance …….trust me…….lol

Dude, I have an EV DC One and these dudes have me 2nd guessing like that DriveRack PA2 may be a step up, LoL. I don't think it is but it's probably more user friendly with a few extra features and iPad ability.

Ha, SEE? More first hand experience......

This is great...

Taipanic 7:22 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

lol…..get the DR bro, it's cheap insurance …….trust me…….lol

Dude, I have an EV DC One and these dudes have me 2nd guessing like that DriveRack PA2 may be a step up, LoL. I don't think it is but it's probably more user friendly with a few extra features and iPad ability.

I'd be interested to hear the differences between the two. Always see the big guys on ProSound forum unanimously panning the DR series, saying almost anything would be better, as far as sound quality. Not sure if it would make that much of a difference for DJ music though.

Joee 7:25 PM - 13 May, 2015

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I'll think about it...

Maybe create a thread....

o no another 5 months……lol

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Ha, SEE? More first hand experience......

This is great...

You Right….even gaf was thinking about getting the DRPA2 & he has his processing already

"Dude, I have an EV DC One and these dudes have me 2nd guessing like that DriveRack PA2 may be a step up, LoL. I don't think it is but it's probably more user friendly with a few extra features and iPad ability."

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:36 PM - 13 May, 2015

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You Right….even gaf was thinking about getting the DRPA2 & he has his processing already

Right, so there's a lot of stuff being thrown around here, you just have to sort thru who "Knows' their stuff, and may actually OWN the equipment vs. who may be basing things off of "best guesses"....or "wish lists"....or "Maybe's"... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:37 PM - 13 May, 2015

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o no another 5 months……lol

I'm sorry if I'm not spending MY MONEY quick enough for you man.....lmao.

Joee 7:55 PM - 13 May, 2015

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I'm sorry if I'm not spending MY MONEY quick enough for you man.....lmao.

you spend/save that money @ whatever pace you want…your the one working for it

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:56 PM - 13 May, 2015

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I'm sorry if I'm not spending MY MONEY quick enough for you man.....lmao.

you spend/save that money @ whatever pace you want…your the one working for it

You do that on purpose, don't you?

Joee 8:08 PM - 13 May, 2015

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You do that on purpose, don't you?

you know i don't be likin to read all that much same goes for typin

keep it sort & to the point, do you really need me to put the 're after you?

you know what i'm sayin, just like when you buy the new Jawns and you say you JOEE i got them new Jawns……& i saw them Jawns are sweet right etc.etc.

i know what Jawn is but if your not from the tri state area you might have a blank stair sayin what is a Jawn? & how do i get a Jawn ……those guys are talking about Jawns like the the best thing since sliced bread

moral of the story you know what i'm sayin no 're needed after the you

let me type my Jawn the way i want …..

:-)

pdidy 11:56 PM - 13 May, 2015

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Nothing like taking a Sunday drive with no "Brakes".....lmao.

lol…..get the DR bro, it's cheap insurance …….trust me…….lol

Dude, I have an EV DC One and these dudes have me 2nd guessing like that DriveRack PA2 may be a step up, LoL. I don't think it is but it's probably more user friendly with a few extra features and iPad ability.

Its user friendly, amateur friendly, mobile on any device (mac,ios,windows, android) and it can be used in real time live like a tech running FOH :)

Ya gotta love it but im sure the EV is a step above it in class just by lookin at the $$$ .

DJ Val-BKNY11203 12:48 AM - 14 May, 2015

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Ya gotta love it but im sure the EV is a step above it in class just by lookin at the $$$ .

Almost triple the price of the Driverack. He rocking those Danley's though. No need to skrimp. LOL

DJ GaFFle 1:24 AM - 14 May, 2015

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Ya gotta love it but im sure the EV is a step above it in class just by lookin at the $$$ .

Almost triple the price of the Driverack. He rocking those Danley's though. No need to skrimp. LOL

Honestly, the prices use to be lower several years ago when I first bought it. I think they were in the $700 range... at least that's what I paid new.

DJ Dynamight 7:50 PM - 14 May, 2015

I've had the K12 since it was released in 2009 and I'm starting to feel like it's time to get some new gear. I've been lurking in all these speaker threads for a while :-)

It's been said many times that the ZXA5 sounds great without a sub. What about the ETX-15P? This thread serato.com ended up going in a different direction and that comparison wasn't really done.

For smaller gigs, I'm considering the ETX-15P as a nice upgrade to the K12 for use without a sub. Any thoughts on the bass performance of the ETX-15P ?

I do already have a DriveRack PX set to high pass for the K12 and a DriveRack PA+ set to low pass to a pair of QSC 1802 bridged that each power a JTR Growler (I might also consolidate to the QSC PL380). For a while I was thinking of going the ZXA5 route, but I think the ETX-15P will be just fine.

pdidy 8:34 PM - 14 May, 2015

Why do you use 2 driveracks for that setup ?

DJ Dynamight 9:10 PM - 14 May, 2015

To independently have control of the bass level. (Master output from the mixer = tops and booth out = bass) Been doing it that way since the 90s when I used to have a 4-way system. It's popular with reggae sound systems.

pdidy 10:50 PM - 14 May, 2015

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To independently have control of the bass level. (Master output from the mixer = tops and booth out = bass) Been doing it that way since the 90s when I used to have a 4-way system. It's popular with reggae sound systems.

Yes im familiar, It was reggae sound systems culture that first got me into BIGG systems.

Btw, if you run your system in mono top/sub you can achieve (Master = tops / booth = bass) this with 1 driverack.

Taipanic 2:38 PM - 15 May, 2015

or get a Driverack 4820 - 4 inputs, 8 outputs.

DJ GaFFle 3:28 PM - 15 May, 2015

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or get a Driverack 4820 - 4 inputs, 8 outputs.

*chuckle* How much are they?

Taipanic 4:45 PM - 15 May, 2015

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or get a Driverack 4820 - 4 inputs, 8 outputs.

*chuckle* How much are they?

Although a veritable bargain at any price, you can have yours for only $3200, LOL

DJEASY 7:15 AM - 16 May, 2015

DJJOHNNYM..all these options and speakers mentioned here..are all good choices..now all you have to do is get..wich 1 serves your needs the best..i know that you already made your mind up with EV ZXA5 GREAT speaker..but at this day and age there are better sounding speakers..Not as LOUD..but better sound..and really self powered (DSP) where everything is on speaker no need for EXTERNAL (more money)that could actually be invested in a good powered speaker..i own SRX 815p..these sound amazing,,and have a very good low punch...if needed for a NO SUB event...With the ZXA5 you will need a good amount of bass..i see your point..but why have very LOUD tops..with no bass to compete with them..lets say you have a dance floor packed and your tops are close to 1/2 way(ZXA5) in volume and your bass is peaking that littlle red light not good..this means you will need to add 1 or 2 more subs (more money)..so before you buy them also try out some subs..this way you could have an idea how much $$$$ you will spend..BTW those QSC what tops were being used????

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:46 AM - 16 May, 2015

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but at this day and age there are better sounding speakers..Not as LOUD

Ok, I'll bite,

Which one "Sounds better" than the ZXA5?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:47 AM - 16 May, 2015

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but at this day and age there are better sounding speakers..Not as LOUD

Ok, I'll bite,

Which one "Sounds better" than the ZXA5?

Specifically....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:54 AM - 16 May, 2015

..i own SRX 815p..these sound amazing,,and have a very good low punch...if needed for a NO SUB event...

How many people will the SRX815P handle BY ITSELF vs. the ZXA5 by itself?

No subs included.

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With the ZXA5 you will need a good amount of bass..i see your point..but why have very LOUD tops..with no bass to compete with them

I will need a good amount of bass to compete with the ZXA5 IF I ran the ZXA5 full tilt, however for events when I need a sub, I'll bring whatever sub I wind up choosing over the next few days...

I come from a system like this - www.djjohnnym.com, so I'm VERY familiar with PA sound...lol..

I always tune the bass FIRST to get the most low end out of it, THEN add in the mids and highs...

What would be different if I use the ZXA5's and a sub?

Same theory.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:59 AM - 16 May, 2015

I think some are taking my inquisitiveness about Powered speakers as a sign that I'm not familiar with PA setups IN GENERAL.

That's absolutely incorrect.

I just want to know what's reliable in the field now, and some technical tips of how to "generally" set them up, since moving from passive to powered, but trust and believe...

I ain't new at this.... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:01 PM - 16 May, 2015

Ha, I've been bridging amps WAYYYYY before it became "DJ Friendly"....I'm talking "making" the wires....in the 80's.

Peavey CS-800s to be exact...

DJ Dub Cowboy 3:15 PM - 16 May, 2015

From my understanding the ZXA5 is the winner in loudness only. Even at the top end they break up and sound harsh.

There is a video comparing the ZXA5 to the RCF HD-32 and the JBL PRX 615 (I think)

RCF won..

Joee 4:21 PM - 16 May, 2015

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From my understanding the ZXA5 is the winner in loudness only. Even at the top end they break up and sound harsh.

yes…they can get harsh……also at lower volume levels they don't bass the same as with higher spl

to here them sing you have to open them up

DJ Dub Cowboy 5:04 PM - 16 May, 2015

I think I'm going to be stoked on the RCF HD-32s

I used my VRX + EAWs last night with settings correct...man...stoked. effortless deep bass with lots of headroom; it all fit in the back of my VW golf and I can pick the subs up myself and load them with ease.

with the RCFs it will be that much easier.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 7:57 PM - 16 May, 2015

Quote:

From my understanding the ZXA5 is the winner in loudness only. Even at the top end they break up and sound harsh.

There is a video comparing the ZXA5 to the RCF HD-32 and the JBL PRX 615 (I think)

RCF won..

Joee....where is said video?

Joee 8:03 PM - 16 May, 2015

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Joee....where is said video?

ask and you shall receive
Watch www.youtube.com

Watch www.youtube.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:58 PM - 16 May, 2015

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RCF won..

Ok so who owns an RCF HD-32 on on here?

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:05 PM - 18 May, 2015

I will own two in 48 hours

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:06 PM - 18 May, 2015

less actually. they show up tomorrow around noon. I won't be able to turn them up until about 6 though.

DJ Guayo 1:09 PM - 18 May, 2015

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RCF won..

Ok so who owns an RCF HD-32 on on here?

I do.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:47 PM - 18 May, 2015

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RCF won..

Ok so who owns an RCF HD-32 on on here?

I do.

Ok, so you can definitively say that the RCF HD-32 is BETTER than the ZXA5?

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:06 PM - 18 May, 2015

I will not be able to tell you as I never heard or even seen a ZXA5.
...also you are comparing a 12" woofer to 15" woofer.

I don't even need to her them to know the HD-32 is a better choice for me based on the limiter alone. I don't ever want to be FORCED to babysit or bring a limiter/processor. I enjoy running sound and I am fond of the PA2 but most of the time I want to roll in, set up, play, roll out. Extra time spent setting up is less money per hour in my pocket.

With 2 VRX + 2 HD-32 I can lift every speaker by myself, fit it all in a very fuel efficient car, load in two trips (3rd for complete DJ set-up on a cart), set up each side with 4 cords (3 when I make some bundled powercon/audio cables) and do the same thing in reverse.

I got 2 VRX on castors (3K), 2 HD-32, 2 Ultimate easy lift stands, cases for EVERYTHING all for $4800 total to my front door.

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:09 PM - 18 May, 2015

I meant to break that down better.

2 x VRX with castors, cases and shipping $3000
2 x HD-32 with cases and shipping $1600 (slightly used, but you can find b-stock for close to the same price)
2 x Ultimate stands in a bag $200

best system I have owned and better than 90% of the competition in my area

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:16 PM - 18 May, 2015

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I will not be able to tell you as I never heard or even seen a ZXA5.

...also you are comparing a 12" woofer to 15" woofer.

I don't even need to her them to know the HD-32 is a better choice for me based on the limiter alone. I don't ever want to be FORCED to babysit or bring a limiter/processor. I enjoy running sound and I am fond of the PA2 but most of the time I want to roll in, set up, play, roll out. Extra time spent setting up is less money per hour in my pocket.

With 2 VRX + 2 HD-32 I can lift every speaker by myself, fit it all in a very fuel efficient car, load in two trips (3rd for complete DJ set-up on a cart), set up each side with 4 cords (3 when I make some bundled powercon/audio cables) and do the same thing in reverse.

I got 2 VRX on castors (3K), 2 HD-32, 2 Ultimate easy lift stands, cases for EVERYTHING all for $4800 total to my front door.

And this is precisely my point...

Cats are on here giving advice as to what is "BETTER", or why someone shouldn't get the ZXA5, yet they (like you) may not have even HEARD ZXA5....

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I will not be able to tell you as I never heard or even seen a ZXA5.

Now that HD-32 might be better FOR YOU, BUT we're talking about ME and what MY needs are as stated earlier....lol.

I need a 15" Two Way Standalone that has decent Bass (that almost sounds "like you don't need a subwoofer" as mentioned earlier in this thread), for these cheesy events I plan on doing, and when it's time to crank it up, add some subs...

I didn't mention trying to compare a 12" speaker to a 15" speaker...lmao...Y'ALL did.

So, here we are again, with nobody being able to come up with a speaker that rivals the ZXA5, except the RCF 745A, but only one person owns that jawn...

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:21 PM - 18 May, 2015

you really can't go wrong Johnny and no one will ever ever ever be able to make a definitive decision for you. Jump in, you can swim.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 10:24 PM - 18 May, 2015

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you really can't go wrong Johnny and no one will ever ever ever be able to make a definitive decision for you. Jump in, you can swim.

My point is that I've MADE this decision IN JANUARY, but y'all ain't listening...lmao.

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:30 PM - 18 May, 2015

no....we ain't seeing you pull the trigger. It's MAY

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:31 PM - 18 May, 2015

and if you have made the decision why are you asking for our opinion. our opinion are like assholes...(you know the rest...)

DJ Dub Cowboy 10:40 PM - 18 May, 2015

I for one...am looking forward to seeing what you get. I also think your choice to stick with brand uniformity is a good one. As stoked as I am with my choice, I also think I will end up with some RCF subwoofers and some JBL tops so I have two complete system available for hire.

However...as this thread points out the champions of the ZXA5 from prior to January have moved on to different speakers. LOUD≠BEST

Joee 10:49 PM - 18 May, 2015

i'll join in here dub……so JM wants zxa5 cause there are the loudest thing out there @ the $1,300 price point, but is thinking about adding a driverack

the reason the zxa5 gets so loud is cause they have no limiter (nothing holding this speaker back) but add a drive rack to the mix & you will have something holding it back, it might not be the loudest speaker once that limiter is added

a zxa5 with a driverack vs a art 745 would be a very good speaker shootout

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:09 PM - 18 May, 2015

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no....we ain't seeing you pull the trigger. It's MAY

SO?

Who determines when I should buy something?

If someone is "bothered" that this thread is running this course, they have the option to NOT click it, read it, comment on it and or be involved in it....lol.

And JUST for the sake of argument, I DID say this

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:39 PM - 8 January, 2015
Ok, thank you to all who have contributed...

Oh, and keeping with the theme of full disclosure, I'm not getting these TOMORROW...

Uncle Sam will be giving me back my taxes around mid Feb, so then I can pull the trigger...

Stay tuned...

lol @

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no....we ain't seeing you pull the trigger. It's MAY

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:12 PM - 18 May, 2015

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and if you have made the decision why are you asking for our opinion. our opinion are like assholes...(you know the rest...)

Yep, you're an asshole! lol...

Just to be clear...I made the decision AFTER asking the questions...

But cats kept offering up different scenarios, SO taking the word of "certain" people who have proven themselves to be knowledgeable about the Powered sector of speakers, I will ask until I get all the information I need to make an informed decision on the new scenarios presented...

Who spends 5G's on speakers without doing their due diligence of research? Both spec wise and real world wise?

Not the kid...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:16 PM - 18 May, 2015

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However...as this thread points out the champions of the ZXA5 from prior to January have moved on to different speakers. LOUD≠BEST

And AGAIN, what speakers did they "Move On" to again...and WHY did they move on?

You're comparing apples to oranges...

Pdidy moved on for a certain reason, and Joee moved on for a certain reason....

Number one, they're DIFFERENT REASONS, and secondly, they didn't even move on to the SAME SPEAKER...lmao.

Again NOBODY can come on here and say, "Hey, I had a ZXA5, but this speaker is BETTER than the ZXA5, so I got this one instead"...

I go with what's tried and true...I don't go in with the expectation to use it for a limited amount of time, worry about the resale value, etc...because I don't PLAN on selling them.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:18 PM - 18 May, 2015

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i'll join in here dub……so JM wants zxa5 cause there are the loudest thing out there @ the $1,300 price point, but is thinking about adding a driverack

the reason the zxa5 gets so loud is cause they have no limiter (nothing holding this speaker back) but add a drive rack to the mix & you will have something holding it back, it might not be the loudest speaker once that limiter is added

a zxa5 with a driverack vs a art 745 would be a very good speaker shootout

And AGAIN, NONE of y'all can definitively say the 745 is "Better" than the ZXA5, lol...

Only ONE person owns it....while MULTIPLE people own the ZXA5, and I don't see cats running to switch it out....

Joee 11:26 PM - 18 May, 2015

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And AGAIN, NONE of y'all can definitively say the 745 is "Better" than the ZXA5, lol..

& again a said

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a zxa5 with a driverack vs a art 745 would be a very good speaker shootout

man stop gettin emotional ,that trate belongs to another forum member…..lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:30 PM - 18 May, 2015

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Only ONE person owns it....while MULTIPLE people own the ZXA5, and I don't see cats running to switch it out....lmao

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DJ GaFFle 11:24 AM - 6 January, 2015

One dude on here said they're almost as loud as the EV's but noticeably smoother sounding, which is partly due to their large 4" horn (the EV's have a 2" horn driver). The looks are a knock against the 745's as they don't look quite as professional as the EV's.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:31 PM - 18 May, 2015

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man stop gettin emotional ,that trate belongs to another forum member…..lol

No, the "trait" is cats worrying about when another grown azz man is gonna spend his money....lmao.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:34 PM - 18 May, 2015

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it might not be the loudest speaker once that limiter is added

And what is the point of saying that?

What EXACTLY are you trying to get me to do?

lol @ spending money on "Mights" and "Maybe's"...

C'mon son...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:38 PM - 18 May, 2015

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I also think your choice to stick with brand uniformity is a good one.

And that I completely owe to Gaffle -

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DJ GaFFle 11:32 AM - 6 January, 2015

Johnny, do you care if your top brand doesn't match your sub brand or do you want all JBL, all EV, all RCF?

That made me think of the Branding thing, having to deal with ONE vendor, uniformity in look, possible DriveRack settings, and Rental possibilities...

See? This is all Gaffles fault for me not buying the VRX's....lmao.

Joee 11:44 PM - 18 May, 2015

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No, the "trait" is cats worrying about when another grown azz man is gonna spend his money....lmao.

i honestly don't think anyone on this thread cares what you buy, we are just keeping you informed on all your options….

when i purchased my zxa5 they were the best thing out there…..in my opinion there are better options today

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And what is the point of saying that?

What EXACTLY are you trying to get me to do?

lol @ spending money on "Mights" and "Maybe's"...

C'mon son...

man we don't care what you spend your money on son….

we just like talking about speakers….

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That made me think of the Branding thing,

you over analyze things……lol, gaffle doesn't have brand uniformity ..he owns danley subs ev/rcf tops he use to own jbl tops

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:54 PM - 18 May, 2015

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i honestly don't think anyone on this thread cares what you buy, we are just keeping you informed on all your options….

Ok, I've been informed by you NUMEROUS times....and keep picking the same thing...lmao.

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when i purchased my zxa5 they were the best thing out there…..in my opinion there are better options today

Ok, so again WHAT 2 WAY SPEAKER IS BETTER THAN THE ZXA5 TODAY?

Who owns said speaker?

Why hasn't the ZXA5 been officially de-throned?

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man we don't care what you spend your money on son….

I beg to differ, well at LEAST y'all are worried about WHEN I spend it...lmao.

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you over analyze things……lol, gaffle doesn't have brand uniformity ..he owns danley subs ev/rcf tops he use to own jbl tops

Who said that GAFFLE had brand uniformity?...

He asked if it was IMPORTANT TO ME....

See? You ain't reading again....

Joee 12:01 AM - 19 May, 2015

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Ok, so again WHAT 2 WAY SPEAKER IS BETTER THAN THE ZXA5 TODAY?

Who owns said speaker?

Why hasn't the ZXA5 been officially de-throned?

i can not answer this question for anyone but myself

i was cheating at almost all my gigs and never used a sub, so the zxa5 was it for me, knocking bass with no sub but the volume has to be cranked a little for said bass

that was than, this is now….now i always bring my 15" subs…..so i no longer need a 15" tops i use strictly 12" tops now

my 15" hit like 18"…lol

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He asked if it was IMPORTANT TO ME....

man cover the label wit some black paint…….lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:20 AM - 19 May, 2015

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i can not answer this question for anyone but myself

i was cheating at almost all my gigs and never used a sub, so the zxa5 was it for me, knocking bass with no sub but the volume has to be cranked a little for said bass

that was than, this is now….now i always bring my 15" subs…..so i no longer need a 15" tops i use strictly 12" tops now

my 15" hit like 18"…lol

You STILL didn't even answer the question....even for yourself!

lmao....

The question was -

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Ok, so again WHAT 2 WAY SPEAKER IS BETTER THAN THE ZXA5 TODAY?

Who owns said speaker?

Why hasn't the ZXA5 been officially de-throned?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:22 AM - 19 May, 2015

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man cover the label wit some black paint…….lol

See, THIS is why I give certain credit to those who "Know"...

Errybody else is just....for lack of a better term....

Guessing....

Joee 12:33 AM - 19 May, 2015

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You STILL didn't even answer the question....even for yourself!

lmao....

yes i did, i have no need for a 15" so I've never bought one to compare to a zxa5, i don't even use my zxa5 anymore

i will eventually get some 745…..i do want a pair

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See, THIS is why I give certain credit to those who "Know"...

Errybody else is just....for lack of a better term....

Guessing....

i'm not guessing, I've heard the 745 & yes it does sound better than the zxa5, i just can't tell you if it's louder as it wasn't pushed to limiting levels

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:51 AM - 19 May, 2015

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yes i did,

No the question was -

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WHAT 2 WAY SPEAKER IS BETTER THAN THE ZXA5 TODAY?

I'm just waiting on someone to give a definitive answer...

And nobody can...

So, the ZXA5 wins by default...

Y'all still "Testing" the 745A....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:15 AM - 19 May, 2015

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i'm not guessing, I've heard the 745 & yes it does sound better than the zxa5, i just can't tell you if it's louder as it wasn't pushed to limiting levels

I didn't say YOU were guessing, but since you put it out there...

The point is that A LOT of people own the ZXA5, I've even had cats come into my PM telling me to get it, because THEY bought a pair, based off of comments on this board, and have never looked back....

As a matter of fact here's the PM -

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I tell you from experience and from being a grown ass Bronx BASS head...

EV ZXA5's is really what you want tor tops!

You have been in the game for many years just like me so I seriously doubt you would blow them (Limiter light or not).
Ust your level indicators on your mixer and you will be fine. You already know that Red means STOP!

The power and sound from the ZXA5's are amazing both in full range and as top only.
I was really blown away at how they sound full range. MUCH bass and still loud as shit and CLEAR.

As far as subs go...
The ETX line from EV really hit hard. Even the 15 knocks.
The cabinet is deeper and throws better than the RCF sub.

Remember the Yamaha S118's that had the deeper cabinet? They ROCKED harder than the shallower s118v's because of the box depth.
Same deal with the EV's. Deeper cabinet design = better, deeper bass that throws farther.

I do NOT own the EV subs but I have two partners that do and they ROCK!

The ZXA5's... I own them and would not trade them for anything out there!

Last...
Driverack
It's helpful but not necessarily NEEDED. It's not the easiest thing to tune but when you get it right it does make a difference.
If you want to get it just for the limiter you might be wasting money because you already KNOW how to NOT blow speakers.

If you blow ZXA5's, your an idiot and should not own a sound system.

So trust, everything falls in line here with the supporting evidence....

desmorider 2:11 AM - 19 May, 2015

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i'll join in here dub……so JM wants zxa5 cause there are the loudest thing out there @ the $1,300 price point, but is thinking about adding a driverack

the reason the zxa5 gets so loud is cause they have no limiter (nothing holding this speaker back) but add a drive rack to the mix & you will have something holding it back, it might not be the loudest speaker once that limiter is added

a zxa5 with a driverack vs a art 745 would be a very good speaker shootout

And AGAIN, NONE of y'all can definitively say the 745 is "Better" than the ZXA5, lol...

Only ONE person owns it....while MULTIPLE people own the ZXA5, and I don't see cats running to switch it out....

Johnny,
No one can spend your money for you, but you. Just get what makes you happy. Also, as stated here earlier a couple of people on here have the 745's. How many sets of zxa5's you think we have on here? 10 or so people? Or you think it's higher? You have made up your mind, so I would say go with your gut feelings on which speakers to get. At this point if you decided against the zxa5, you will constantly asking yourself "what would it be like had I gotten the zxa5's".

Keep us informed with your progress. Did you do another listening session over the past weekend.

desmorider 2:22 AM - 19 May, 2015

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yes i did,

No the question was -

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WHAT 2 WAY SPEAKER IS BETTER THAN THE ZXA5 TODAY?

I'm just waiting on someone to give a definitive answer...

And nobody can...

So, the ZXA5 wins by default...

Y'all still "Testing" the 745A....

All around speaker and total package the 745a is the better speaker. Sounds better(subjective but shouldn't be hard to figure out why), has as much or more bass, lighter, has protection. The only thing that the zxa5 could possibly be better at would possibly be getting loud. The 745 went toe to toe with it until stupid loud. 745 wasn't pushed to limit light, and zxa5 was not pushed to the point of getting harsh(described by owners of zxa5).

Also, I think that most would rate the etx15 as a better all around speaker then the zxa5. Once again as stated do you bee. Im sure you will be as happy as a pig in shit with the zxa5.

desmorider 2:25 AM - 19 May, 2015

Johnny,

What are the positives for the zxa5. Loud, loud, and oh I forgot loud. What would make it better then the etx15p in your eyes besides Louder?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:59 AM - 19 May, 2015

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Also, as stated here earlier a couple of people on here have the 745's.

Right, but not as many as the ZXA5.....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:00 AM - 19 May, 2015

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Did you do another listening session over the past weekend.

Yes.... ETX Sub FTW.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:01 AM - 19 May, 2015

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Johnny,

What are the positives for the zxa5. Loud, loud, and oh I forgot loud. What would make it better then the etx15p in your eyes besides Louder?

The fact that nobody on here is actually going out and actually BUYING IT to replace the ZXA5.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:02 AM - 19 May, 2015

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. Im sure you will be as happy as a pig in shit with the zxa5.

This....

desmorider 3:09 AM - 19 May, 2015

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Johnny,

What are the positives for the zxa5. Loud, loud, and oh I forgot loud. What would make it better then the etx15p in your eyes besides Louder?

The fact that nobody on here is actually going out and actually BUYING IT to replace the ZXA5.

Wouldn't make much sense to switch to the etx15p if you have the zxa5 already,and know how to use it. Why don't you ask those same owners of the zxa5, if they were buying tomorrow what would they buy? Zxa5 or etx15p. Don't sleep, some guys on here have sold their zxa5's.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:27 AM - 19 May, 2015

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Wouldn't make much sense to switch to the etx15p if you have the zxa5 already,and know how to use it. Why don't you ask those same owners of the zxa5, if they were buying tomorrow what would they buy? Zxa5 or etx15p. Don't sleep, some guys on here have sold their zxa5's.

Dude, I don't go by what they "WOULD" buy, I go by what is being used as of right now.

Make no mistake, if the ETX15p (or any piece of equipment) was a marginal upgrade (sometimes it doesn't even have to be marginal), to what they already have, you KNOW these cats would waste NO TIME, selling off the old and buying new....

They do it all the time.

NOBODY has said, hey this <insert ZXA5 killer> is better than the ZXA5, and actually has "Real Life" experience with it, and has actually gotten rid of the ZXA5 to prove it.

Like I said, it was all good 5 months ago.

And yes, SOME guys have sold their ZXA5's, but for different reasons...NOBODY has confirmed a true successor, and bought the same speaker.

desmorider 11:53 AM - 19 May, 2015

Best of luck Djjohnny-vega-1. Im sure that the zxa5/etx sub will give you years of trouble free service. I know that you were concerned about space and scuffing up the fly-ass interior of the explorer, so i would like to know if you listened to the etx15sp sub? I hear that that outperforms some 18in subs. Just wondering.

Joee 12:18 PM - 19 May, 2015

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All around speaker and total package the 745a is the better speaker. Sounds better(subjective but shouldn't be hard to figure out why), has as much or more bass, lighter, has protection. The only thing that the zxa5 could possibly be better at would possibly be getting loud. The 745 went toe to toe with it until stupid loud. 745 wasn't pushed to limit light, and zxa5 was not pushed to the point of getting harsh(described by owners of zxa5).

good info….better all around huh!

if i were buying today zxa5 vs 745, i would most likely go with the 745…..that 4" inch horn is nothing to play with

i can defiantly see the 745 having better bass the the crossover point to the woofer is set much lover since the 4"horn handles the mids & highs

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:50 PM - 19 May, 2015

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Best of luck Djjohnny-vega-1. Im sure that the zxa5/etx sub will give you years of trouble free service. I know that you were concerned about space and scuffing up the fly-ass interior of the explorer, so i would like to know if you listened to the etx15sp sub? I hear that that outperforms some 18in subs. Just wondering.

No, I haven't listened to the ETX15sp, but I"ll keep it in mind!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:52 PM - 19 May, 2015

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All around speaker and total package the 745a is the better speaker. Sounds better(subjective but shouldn't be hard to figure out why), has as much or more bass, lighter, has protection. The only thing that the zxa5 could possibly be better at would possibly be getting loud. The 745 went toe to toe with it until stupid loud. 745 wasn't pushed to limit light, and zxa5 was not pushed to the point of getting harsh(described by owners of zxa5).

good info….better all around huh!

if i were buying today zxa5 vs 745, i would most likely go with the 745…..that 4" inch horn is nothing to play with

i can defiantly see the 745 having better bass the the crossover point to the woofer is set much lover since the 4"horn handles the mids & highs

But you HAVEN'T bought it yet....lol, and that's my point...

NOBODY has bought the 745 after owning the ZXA5...

Hey, if I wasn't concerned about Branding, then I may consider it, but due to that and the fact that my speaker guy said the thing about RCF parts, I'mma stick with the EV.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:53 PM - 19 May, 2015

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i can [u]defiantly see[/b] the 745 having better bass the the crossover point to the woofer is set much lover since the 4"horn handles the mids & highs

Again, 5G purchases aren't based on "Anticipation", or "Predictions"....

Y'all should know me by now...lmao.

desmorider 1:29 PM - 19 May, 2015

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All around speaker and total package the 745a is the better speaker. Sounds better(subjective but shouldn't be hard to figure out why), has as much or more bass, lighter, has protection. The only thing that the zxa5 could possibly be better at would possibly be getting loud. The 745 went toe to toe with it until stupid loud. 745 wasn't pushed to limit light, and zxa5 was not pushed to the point of getting harsh(described by owners of zxa5).

good info….better all around huh!

if i were buying today zxa5 vs 745, i would most likely go with the 745…..that 4" inch horn is nothing to play with

i can defiantly see the 745 having better bass the the crossover point to the woofer is set much lover since the 4"horn handles the mids & highs

So Joee or anyone that owns, has owned, or listened to the zxa5 and etx15p back to back. What benefits do the zxa5's offer over the etx15p. Im trying to find the advantages and the only thing i come up with is LOUDER. Am i missing something obvious?

Joee 1:38 PM - 19 May, 2015

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Im trying to find the advantages and the only thing i come up with is LOUDER. Am i missing something obvious?

pretty much….but i haven't listened to them @ those higher spl's to know if the bass is the same/more/less……than the zxa5 comes to life in the bass department when cranked up

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:36 PM - 19 May, 2015

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What benefits do the zxa5's offer over the etx15p. Im trying to find the advantages and the only thing i come up with is LOUDER. Am i missing something obvious?

Nope, that's all I need!

DJ Dub Cowboy 3:19 PM - 19 May, 2015

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man cover the label wit some black paint

the JBL is already black but the RCF logo is getting some paint or plastic-dip, even through I am extremely proud to be rocking an Italian made speaker. (which should be here in about 5 hours)

DJ Dub Cowboy 3:29 PM - 19 May, 2015

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NOBODY has bought the 745 after owning the ZXA5...

1) you are talking about a handful of people on the Serato forums

2) you are talking about $1300 speakers which is not something people tend to switch out easily

3) yet....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:28 PM - 19 May, 2015

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NOBODY has bought the 745 after owning the ZXA5...

1) you are talking about a handful of people on the Serato forums

2) you are talking about $1300 speakers which is not something people tend to switch out easily

Like I said....

Again.....

NOBODY has bought the 745 after owning the ZXA5....

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3) yet....

EXACTLY my point....

Y'all can spend thousands of bucks on "Maybe's" and "Should Be's"...

Not the kid....

If it's not tried, true and proven, I'm not doing it....

lmao @ y'all not understanding that....

DJ Dub Cowboy 2:36 AM - 20 May, 2015

just spent some time with my HD-32s and VRX918SP....

so stoked. I am very happy with my choices.

I had every knob turned up to the max (no red) on my 62 and the signal lights were still flashing with all speakers at unity gain....nowhere close to clipping.

The clarity of the HD-32 is something I have not experienced with a powered speaker. As a DJ of mostly bass heavy music I was worried that I was buying something more suited to another genre but these things make everything sound good. Effortlessly

I do think I will want another pair of VRX918SPs but this system will keep me happy for a while.

oh and no processor, just hi-pass out from the VRX. I thought I would want to hook up the driverack and see if I could tweak them. Instead, I just sat down and enjoyed listening to music on a dope system.

DJ Guayo 2:18 PM - 20 May, 2015

That's the first thing i noticed on the HD-32s as well. The clarity is very good and carries well also. When you pair them with a sub, the sound is amazing. I haven't clipped them once either. They not only get loud, but a clean loud.

DJ Dub Cowboy 3:56 PM - 20 May, 2015

The covers that can stay on the speakers when being used are a super bonus.

Joee 3:58 PM - 20 May, 2015

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The covers that can stay on the speakers when being used are a super bonus.

i also love that feature

desmorider 4:11 PM - 20 May, 2015

Yeah that's dope. Nit picking hear, but would be nice to have a pocket on back of cover to store wires. Can't wait to hear 8003mkII.

Joee,
The 905 subs you have seem like a beast from the specs. Also light.

Joee 4:27 PM - 20 May, 2015

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Joee,
The 905 subs you have seem like a beast from the specs. Also light.

i own two 905mk1's they are beast, they keep up with & even sound better than some 18"

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Yeah that's dope. Nit picking hear, but would be nice to have a pocket on back of cover to store wires.

i actually store my power wire in the back of the bag fits nicely
rcf.media-display.it

desmorider 2:00 AM - 21 May, 2015

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Joee,
The 905 subs you have seem like a beast from the specs. Also light.

i own two 905mk1's they are beast, they keep up with & even sound better than some 18"

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Yeah that's dope. Nit picking hear, but would be nice to have a pocket on back of cover to store wires.

i actually store my power wire in the back of the bag fits nicely
rcf.media-display.it

The Jawns you have, have the fer-rite or neo magnets?

Joee 11:25 AM - 21 May, 2015

neo

DJ GaFFle 1:12 AM - 23 May, 2015

I just leave this right here... s1004.photobucket.com

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:46 AM - 23 May, 2015

I'm trying to cut down on porn bro...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 12:48 PM - 27 May, 2015

So, in anticipation of having ZXA5's and the ETX18SP's, is there anything I should be aware of in terms of electrical preparation?

So I should I be looking to be running 2 electrical connections per side, can both the ZXA5 and the EXT18SP reside on the same electrical circuit?

Or would they both draw too much current and I should be looking at 4 separate circuits?

Just trying to plan out my extension cord budget...

Joee 1:17 PM - 27 May, 2015

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So I should I be looking to be running 2 electrical connections per side, can both the ZXA5 and the EXT18SP reside on the same electrical circuit?

good question, you have to check the power draw of the subs, i know you will be ok running both tops on the same circuit

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:21 PM - 27 May, 2015

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So I should I be looking to be running 2 electrical connections per side, can both the ZXA5 and the EXT18SP reside on the same electrical circuit?

good question, you have to check the power draw of the subs, i know you will be ok running both tops on the same circuit

Ok, so worst case scenario is 3 separate circuits. 1 for the ZXA5's, and possibly 2 separate ones for the subs....

Pdidy? Gaffle? or anybody else who owns ETX18SP's?

Joee 1:31 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Ok, so worst case scenario is 3 separate circuits. 1 for the ZXA5's, and possibly 2 separate ones for the subs....

Pdidy? Gaffle? or anybody else who owns ETX18SP's?

you mean you haven't downloaded the manual & read it yet?

www.google.com

see if can find the power draw

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:52 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Ok, so worst case scenario is 3 separate circuits. 1 for the ZXA5's, and possibly 2 separate ones for the subs....

Pdidy? Gaffle? or anybody else who owns ETX18SP's?

you mean you haven't downloaded the manual & read it yet?

www.google.com

see if can find the power draw

I can get the Power Draw from the specs...

I wanted real life scenarios....but thank you.

desmorider 1:56 PM - 27 May, 2015

.8 to 1.6 amps is 1/8 power current ratings. Max current per etx would 12.8, but you would only see that kind of constant current with a test signal, and bench testing. You would be fine with 2 etx on one circuit and 2 zxa5's on another circuit with music

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:59 PM - 27 May, 2015

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.8 to 1.6 amps is 1/8 power current ratings. Max current per etx would 12.8, but you would only see that kind of constant current with a test signal, and bench testing. You would be fine with 2 etx on one circuit and 2 zxa5's on another circuit with music

Or with 1 ZXA5 and 1 ETX18SP on 1 circuit apiece....or 2 circuits in total.

DJ GaFFle 2:07 PM - 27 May, 2015

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.8 to 1.6 amps is 1/8 power current ratings. Max current per etx would 12.8, but you would only see that kind of constant current with a test signal, and bench testing. You would be fine with 2 etx on one circuit and 2 zxa5's on another circuit with music

^^^ This; however, I would always look for 20 amp circuit(s) which most "real" venues should have by code.

Two circuits total... two 20 amp circuits for a worry-free performance. Pair your top/sub ratio any way you'd like just as long as it's two on one circuit and two speaker devices on the other. Lastly, you'll need worry about your TT's, DR2, mixer and laptop. Those may also fit on your circuits w/o worry along with the speakers as long as they're 20 amps.

desmorider 2:10 PM - 27 May, 2015

1 top 1 bottom per circuit is a good option. The tops would be crossed so would have a constant current of next to nothing. Music is about 1/8 duty cycle so you could if push come to shove use all on one circuit. Breakers have to have sustained current for a few seconds to trip. I would rather use two 20amp circuits if possible.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:13 PM - 27 May, 2015

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.8 to 1.6 amps is 1/8 power current ratings. Max current per etx would 12.8, but you would only see that kind of constant current with a test signal, and bench testing. You would be fine with 2 etx on one circuit and 2 zxa5's on another circuit with music

^^^ This; however, I would always look for 20 amp circuit(s) which most "real" venues should have by code.

Two circuits total... two 20 amp circuits for a worry-free performance. Pair your top/sub ratio any way you'd like just as long as it's two on one circuit and two speaker devices on the other. Lastly, you'll need worry about your TT's, DR2, mixer and laptop. Those may also fit on your circuits w/o worry along with the speakers as long as they're 20 amps.

Great detail sir...

Oh, I'm also bringing the Swarm 5's.....

Ugggh....more extension cords....

Wow, so I'm going from 2 Power Sources that could have been 15amp, (1 amp, 1 for everything else) with no problem, to at least 2 20amp (for the speakers) and 1 15amp for the TT's, laptop and lights? or basically 3 20amp joints all the way around....

And the additional purchase of 6 extra extension cords......

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:14 PM - 27 May, 2015

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1 top 1 bottom per circuit is a good option. The tops would be crossed so would have a constant current of next to nothing. Music is about 1/8 duty cycle so you could if push come to shove use all on one circuit. Breakers have to have sustained current for a few seconds to trip. I would rather use two 20amp circuits if possible.

Again, great detail sir!

Stay tuned!

Taipanic 2:16 PM - 27 May, 2015

In real world use I've never blown a 15 or 20 amp circuit using 2 ZXa5s & 1 Yorkville LS800p. If they were run full out I am sure it would trip but you will probably never be running the tops all out as you won't have enough bass to balance it out.

desmorider 2:17 PM - 27 May, 2015

Im here for you Djjohnny-vega-1.

Taipanic 2:20 PM - 27 May, 2015

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In real world use I've never blown a 15 or 20 amp circuit using 2 ZXa5s & 1 Yorkville LS800p. If they were run full out I am sure it would trip but you will probably never be running the tops all out as you won't have enough bass to balance it out.

But I also agree with using 2 20 amp circuits when possible.

DJ GaFFle 2:21 PM - 27 May, 2015

Lots of time, it's difficult for you to tell which wall outlets are on separate circuits at a venue unless the in-house engineer is on site. Based on your equipment, you'll probably be good with just two separate circuits.

This is a good general rule to visually differentiate between a 15 amp and a 20 amp outlet: www.checkthishouse.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:23 PM - 27 May, 2015

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In real world use I've never blown a 15 or 20 amp circuit using 2 ZXa5s & 1 Yorkville LS800p. If they were run full out I am sure it would trip but you will probably never be running the tops all out as you won't have enough bass to balance it out.

This......

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:23 PM - 27 May, 2015

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In real world use I've never blown a 15 or 20 amp circuit using 2 ZXa5s & 1 Yorkville LS800p. If they were run full out I am sure it would trip but you will probably never be running the tops all out as you won't have enough bass to balance it out.

But I also agree with using 2 20 amp circuits when possible.

Agreed.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:24 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Lots of time, it's difficult for you to tell which wall outlets are on separate circuits at a venue unless the in-house engineer is on site. Based on your equipment, you'll probably be good with just two separate circuits.

This is a good general rule to visually differentiate between a 15 amp and a 20 amp outlet: www.checkthishouse.com

Oh, you guys are DA BOMB....

Nice one Gaffle!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:26 PM - 27 May, 2015

Jesus, so I'll have to buy XLR Speaker wire as well....wait, at least I don't have to worry about Wire Gauge....

What lengths do you guys typically get?

50ft? 100ft?

Any issues with longer runs (aside from having a bunch of wire) if I get 4 100 ft jawns?

Joee 2:27 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Jesus, so I'll have to buy XLR Speaker wire as well....wait, at least I don't have to worry about Wire Gauge....

What lengths do you guys typically get?

50ft? 100ft?

Any issues with longer runs (aside from having a bunch of wire) if I get 4 100 ft jawns?

you want it all……20 25 50 & 100ft…….I've never had issues running 100ft

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:31 PM - 27 May, 2015

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you want it all……20 25 50 & 100ft…….I've never had issues running 100ft

No I don't lol...

Eventually sure, but if I needed to buy 4 wires RIGHT NOW, I'm trying to decide what I should get.

Joee 2:35 PM - 27 May, 2015

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No I don't lol...

Eventually sure, but if I needed to buy 4 wires RIGHT NOW, I'm trying to decide what I should get

spending all this money & your worried about another $100 on xlr

SMH

Taipanic 2:37 PM - 27 May, 2015

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you want it all……20 25 50 & 100ft…….I've never had issues running 100ft

No I don't lol...

Eventually sure, but if I needed to buy 4 wires RIGHT NOW, I'm trying to decide what I should get.

2-25 & 2-50 or 4-25

DJ GaFFle 2:38 PM - 27 May, 2015

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This is a good general rule to visually differentiate between a 15 amp and a 20 amp outlet: www.checkthishouse.com

Nice one Gaff... I never knew. I always just looked for one with a GFI Switch. That is usually a 20, correct?

Naw... GFI's can be on 15 amp circuits; I have them in my bathrooms and kitchens. Look for that horizontal blade. It's not 100% foolproof but like I stated, it's a good "general rule".

Taipanic 2:39 PM - 27 May, 2015

Maybe some longer Powercon cables as well for the ZXa5s.

Taipanic 2:41 PM - 27 May, 2015

Don't forget, good prices on cabling at Monoprice. I also highly recommend a few of these in your collection:
www.monoprice.com

Joee 2:42 PM - 27 May, 2015

he you go JM your style cheap…..lol

www.ebay.com

www.ebay.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:43 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Maybe some longer Powercon cables as well for the ZXa5s.

Whoa, am I right in assuming a Powercon cables don't come with the speakers?

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Maybe some longer Powercon cables as well for the ZXa5s.

Explain Powercon please...

I thought they just used a regular AC joint....

Joee 2:43 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Buy good cables! Those cheepies are nothing but headaches.

I upgraded all of mine to Planet Waves (with lifetime warranties) a few years back... no issues since.

I love these Swivels; www.ebay.com

nice I've never seen those , i think i will be buying some 25 50 & 100ft

DJ GaFFle 2:44 PM - 27 May, 2015

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you want it all……20 25 50 & 100ft…….I've never had issues running 100ft

No I don't lol...

Eventually sure, but if I needed to buy 4 wires RIGHT NOW, I'm trying to decide what I should get.

2-25 & 2-50 or 4-25

I'd prefer the two 25' and two 50' option (more versatility). I usually customize mine from here: www.redco.com or get them made from a local shop here in Atlanta. Neutrik connectors are a must for me. Don't go the cheapest route with cables. You're spending high dollar$ on speakers so stay with at least good quality on the cabling.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:44 PM - 27 May, 2015

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This is a good general rule to visually differentiate between a 15 amp and a 20 amp outlet: www.checkthishouse.com

Nice one Gaff... I never knew. I always just looked for one with a GFI Switch. That is usually a 20, correct?

Naw... GFI's can be on 15 amp circuits; I have them in my bathrooms and kitchens. Look for that horizontal blade. It's not 100% foolproof but like I stated, it's a good "general rule".

This is some valuable info man...

Why you holdin' out for so long meng?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:45 PM - 27 May, 2015

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you want it all……20 25 50 & 100ft…….I've never had issues running 100ft

No I don't lol...

Eventually sure, but if I needed to buy 4 wires RIGHT NOW, I'm trying to decide what I should get.

2-25 & 2-50 or 4-25

I'd prefer the two 25' and two 50' option (more versatility). I usually customize mine from here: www.redco.com or get them made from a local shop here in Atlanta. Neutrik connectors are a must for me. Don't go the cheapest route with cables. You're spending high dollar$ on speakers so stay with at least good quality on the cabling.

I probably don't have time to order anything from ebay, so GC or Sam Ash would be where I'd get them.

Taipanic 2:46 PM - 27 May, 2015

The ZXa5s use power connectors. It is like a Neutrik connector but for power, not signal. Twist & lock connector so the cord cannot be dislodged. DO NOT UNPLUG FROM SPEAKER WHEN STILL CONNECTED TO POWER! - bad things can happen. Powercon connectors are mostly used in high end equipment.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:48 PM - 27 May, 2015

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The ZXa5s use power connectors. It is like a Neutrik connector but for power, not signal. Twist & lock connector so the cord cannot be dislodged. DO NOT UNPLUG FROM SPEAKER WHEN STILL CONNECTED TO POWER! - bad things can happen. Powercon connectors are mostly used in high end equipment.

Oh, snap! I just took a good look at the back of the ZXA5, and NOPE, no AC Mains in...

Ok, so they HAVE to send at least ONE Powercon cable with the speaker, correct?

DJ GaFFle 2:48 PM - 27 May, 2015

^^^ and yes, your ZXA5's will come with them.

Joee 2:48 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Ok, so they HAVE to send at least ONE Powercon cable with the speaker, correct?

yes & it's plenty long

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:49 PM - 27 May, 2015

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^^^ and yes, your ZXA5's will come with them.

Quote:

Ok, so they HAVE to send at least ONE Powercon cable with the speaker, correct?

yes & it's plenty long

Ok, great....

Taipanic 2:52 PM - 27 May, 2015

There is no protection when plugging and unplugging so make sure you plug power side in last when setting up and unplug power side first when breaking down.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:55 PM - 27 May, 2015

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There is no protection when plugging and unplugging so make sure you plug power side in last when setting up and unplug power side first when breaking down.

Got it, add wire to speaker first then plug into outlet, and unplug from outlet first when breaking down.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:48 PM - 27 May, 2015

Ok, setupwise...

Assuming a fairly large room, rectangular, about 300 in attendance...

Should the speaker setup be 1 Sub/1 Top per each side physically?

or

Should I couple the Subs in the middle, and have the tops as satellites on each side?

This helps me determine initial speaker wire purchase as well...

Also, no DriveRack in the picture .....yet.

Joee 3:55 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Should the speaker setup be 1 Sub/1 Top per each side physically?

man why are you asking this?……you OG son

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Should I couple the Subs in the middle, and have the tops as satellites on each side?

yes…….increases the total bass output

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:59 PM - 27 May, 2015

In all my larger setups, I've had 2 subs per side, so the question wasn't necessary, so the "coupling" was per side...

Here I have 1 "Sub" per side, and truth be told, it's really just replacing the standalone 3-Way Cerwin Vega, so why not?

I see LOADS of setups with Sub/Speaker on the stand setups....

Pdidy?

Gaffle?

Anybody else? :-)

Joee 4:45 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

Pdidy?

Gaffle?

Anybody else? :-)

go look at the setup pics & you will see in almost all of them there subs are coupled

Taipanic 4:50 PM - 27 May, 2015

I usually center cluster my subs when I can. This concentrates the bass on the dancefloor and gives you extra DB by coupling. If your tops are fairly far away from the subs I believe the ETXs have a delay setting in the DSP to align all the frequencies.

The tops over subs definitely looks cleaner than stands. Really depends on the situation - volume requirements, type of event, layout of room, etc...

Joee 5:08 PM - 27 May, 2015

Gaflle set up
www.flickr.com

Pdidy set up
s26.photobucket.com

Taipanic no set up pic
but he did say he couples his subs

Joee no set up pic
but i also couple my subs

Joee 5:10 PM - 27 May, 2015

al damn you know what i just realized

Gaflle

Pdidy

Taipanic

Joee

we all own zxa5

:-)

Taipanic 7:49 PM - 27 May, 2015

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Gaflle set up
www.flickr.com

Pdidy set up
s26.photobucket.com

Taipanic no set up pic
but he did say he couples his subs

Joee no set up pic
but i also couple my subs

Here's a pic, only one sub though. Setup is overkill for sure for a Tailgating Pary
www.djfreelance.org

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:08 PM - 27 May, 2015

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al damn you know what i just realized

Gaflle

Pdidy

Taipanic

Joee

we all own zxa5

:-)

So whatchu tryin' to say?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:10 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

I usually center cluster my subs when I can. This concentrates the bass on the dancefloor and gives you extra DB by coupling. If your tops are fairly far away from the subs I believe the ETXs have a delay setting in the DSP to align all the frequencies.

Thank you for the feedback sir!

Quote:

The tops over subs definitely looks cleaner than stands. Really depends on the situation - volume requirements, type of event, layout of room, etc...

Right! And I'm torn between that look, or the center cluster jawn.

This will be an upscale event, yet they'll want to bang out, and I will have a chance to open them up for the first time somewhere....

Decisions, decisions....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:11 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

Gaflle set up
www.flickr.com

Pdidy set up
s26.photobucket.com

Taipanic no set up pic
but he did say he couples his subs

Joee no set up pic
but i also couple my subs

lol, why are you answering for errybody?

They ain't your employees!

Joee 8:23 PM - 27 May, 2015

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So whatchu tryin' to say?

i'm sayin your not part of the elite…..lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:24 PM - 27 May, 2015

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So whatchu tryin' to say?

i'm sayin your not part of the elite…..lol

U sure about that? :-)

Joee 8:27 PM - 27 May, 2015

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U sure about that? :-)

i don't see no pics, man you know the first thing you going to do is blast the board and be look my new zxa5's

DJ Val-BKNY11203 8:41 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

I usually center cluster my subs when I can. This concentrates the bass on the dancefloor and gives you extra DB by coupling. If your tops are fairly far away from the subs I believe the ETXs have a delay setting in the DSP to align all the frequencies.

Thank you for the feedback sir!

Quote:

The tops over subs definitely looks cleaner than stands. Really depends on the situation - volume requirements, type of event, layout of room, etc...

Right! And I'm torn between that look, or the center cluster jawn.

This will be an upscale event, yet they'll want to bang out, and I will have a chance to open them up for the first time somewhere....

Decisions, decisions....

Center clustering will give you some more boom, but having them separate is not going to have your set up sounding anemic either.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:47 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

U sure about that? :-)

i don't see no pics, man you know the first thing you going to do is blast the board and be look my new zxa5's

U sure about that?

How do you know I'm not just waiting for a drop shipment or sumphin?

Joee 8:59 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

U sure about that?

How do you know I'm not just waiting for a drop shipment or sumphin?

man you not part of the club man…….lol

Joee 9:04 PM - 27 May, 2015

JM waiting by the door like
static.flickr.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:42 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

U sure about that?

How do you know I'm not just waiting for a drop shipment or sumphin?

man you not part of the club man…….lol

Wow, Equipment Envy AGAIN!

Why ain't you want me to have the ZXA5's man?

Awww that's f'ed up....yo.

Joee 9:45 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

U sure about that?

How do you know I'm not just waiting for a drop shipment or sumphin?

man you not part of the club man…….lol

Wow, Equipment Envy AGAIN!

Why ain't you want me to have the ZXA5's man?

Awww that's f'ed up....yo.

cause you can't be as loud as me………lol

you stepped away from the door huh?
static.flickr.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:51 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

al damn you know what i just realized

Gaflle

Pdidy

Taipanic

Joee

we all own zxa5

:-)

And I know at LEAST one more person...

Hell, that's probably the most commonly owned speaker on this forum.

desmorider 10:41 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

I usually center cluster my subs when I can. This concentrates the bass on the dancefloor and gives you extra DB by coupling. If your tops are fairly far away from the subs I believe the ETXs have a delay setting in the DSP to align all the frequencies.

Thank you for the feedback sir!

Quote:

The tops over subs definitely looks cleaner than stands. Really depends on the situation - volume requirements, type of event, layout of room, etc...

Right! And I'm torn between that look, or the center cluster jawn.

This will be an upscale event, yet they'll want to bang out, and I will have a chance to open them up for the first time somewhere....

Decisions, decisions....[/quote

Whats the date for this even johnny

desmorider 10:45 PM - 27 May, 2015

Event

Joee 10:47 PM - 27 May, 2015

he has to get them first
static.flickr.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:04 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

Event

Stay tuned.....

desmorider 11:53 PM - 27 May, 2015

Quote:

Event

Stay tuned.....

Man listen.

Stop playin bruh......

DJ Dub Cowboy 2:56 PM - 28 May, 2015

I was going to make a remark about the ZXA5 coming out almost 8 years ago then I realized the VRX subs I just bought came out the same year.

Watch www.youtube.com

they must be some SOLID DESIGNS if they are still in production.

Joee 2:57 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

VRX subs I just bought came out the same year.

they were ahead of there time & still relevant today

DJ Dub Cowboy 3:37 PM - 28 May, 2015

I definitely considered that in my decision. If there were improvements to be made there would be a MK2 or a new line. That is also why I have stayed away from the PRX6/7 and SRX7/8 line as they seem to reinvented more frequently

pdidy 5:09 PM - 28 May, 2015

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VRX subs I just bought came out the same year.

they were ahead of there time & still relevant today

+1

Quote:

they must be some SOLID DESIGNS if they are still in production.

+1

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:46 PM - 28 May, 2015

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:47 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

they must be some SOLID DESIGNS if the ZXA5's are still in production.

+ Eleventy Billion!

DJ Guayo 6:56 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Oh dang... i need to go cash out my retirement accounts... JM finally purchase some speakers... world is about to end now for sure...

LOL

on another note.

Congrats!!!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:59 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Congrats!!!

Thank you sir...

Joee 7:04 PM - 28 May, 2015

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 is officially in the club, go big or go home

congrats……..

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:05 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 is officially in the club, go big or go home

congrats……..

Oh, so no more -> static.flickr.com ? lol..

Joee 7:09 PM - 28 May, 2015

^ man you know thats exactly what you were doing son, standing by the door waiting on that ups man

you probably when in side shut the door and did the official JM happy dance once they got there

Taipanic 7:11 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Our long National Nightmare is over!
Congrats on the new gear. Now it's time for you to start saving for the Danley SM80/TH118 upgrade.

Joee 7:11 PM - 28 May, 2015

so i want to know, once you test is out

"Get me from a Cerwin V35 Full Range Solution to something compatible which sounds just as good if not better."

how does it compare to the old jawn

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:14 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Our long National Nightmare is over!

Congrats on the new gear. Now it's time for you to start saving for the Danley SM80/TH118 upgrade.

LMAO! Now what y'all gonna talk about?

DJ GaFFle 7:28 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Congrats! Those were drop-shipped right? Doesn't look like all that (boxes) can fit in your SUV?

And yeah... we look forward to you looking for the best deal on a third and fourth ETX18SP to keep up with those ZXA5's. :-)

Joee 7:28 PM - 28 May, 2015

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LMAO! Now what y'all gonna talk about?

you cleaning up your wires & not leaving errthing looking like spaghetti ,cause you think it looks cool

example nice & clean, no wires to be seen anywhere
s1004.photobucket.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:29 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Congrats! Those were drop-shipped right? Doesn't look like all that (boxes) can fit in your SUV?

And yeah... we look forward to you looking for the best deal on a third and fourth ETX18SP to keep up with those ZXA5's. :-)

Actually Fed Ex freight. That dude was HAPPY as a mo that I was here to sign for them....lol.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:30 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

LMAO! Now what y'all gonna talk about?

you cleaning up your wires & not leaving errthing looking like spaghetti ,cause you think it looks cool

example nice & clean, no wires to be seen anywhere

s1004.photobucket.com

But wait....

The subs ain't coupled...... :-P

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:31 PM - 28 May, 2015

And I'mma go out and get me some bright orange extension cords to run, so errybody can see all my pretty wires!

DJ GaFFle 7:33 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

LMAO! Now what y'all gonna talk about?

you cleaning up your wires & not leaving errthing looking like spaghetti ,cause you think it looks cool

example nice & clean, no wires to be seen anywhere

s1004.photobucket.com

But wait....

The subs ain't coupled...... :-P

Man, damn a coupled. For ergo's sake, I'd run mines the same way too for that look. He had a room full of realityTV clowns... they didn't care about bass power alleys and phase cancellations.

Joee 7:34 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

The subs ain't coupled...... :-P

lmao……..this is to much

one of his subs will most likely outdo both of yours, he doesn't need to couple them jawns

that was funny tho

Quote:

And I'mma go out and get me some bright orange extension cords to run, so errybody can see all my pretty wires!

i'm saying son……if you want to do those upscale events your going to need to clean up that wires errwere look

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:34 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Man, damn a coupled. For ergo's sake, I'd run mines the same way too for that look..

And THANK YOU...

****Noted coming from one of the esteemed members of the board, and probably OWNS the LOUDEST SUBS here....****

Decisions, decisions.....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:36 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

if you want to do those upscale events your going to need to clean up that wires errwere look

Upscale events that YOU supply?

nah mayne...

I'm good....

desmorider 7:43 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Damn, is it snowing in dirty jerz today? Mr Vega must be rolling around in his grave.

Congrats EVdjjohnnyVEGA-1

Now try not to blow dem shits at your first gig.

Zxa5-Disclaimer:

"Going unprotected is like banging a chick Raw-dawg......."

Didn't some dude on here blow his zxa5's on the first or second gig?

DJ GaFFle 7:43 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

And I'mma go out and get me some bright orange extension cords to run, so errybody can see all my pretty wires!

Oh yeah... get black power cables.

Something like this: www.ebay.com

Doesn't have to be the same brand and prices vary greatly but if you're gonna be running lots of stuff off of your extension cord (within reasonable limits), make sure it's 12ga. 14ga is fine for a single component or two but not too long. The important thing is to get black. Orange is tacky, stands out and draws attention, making it appear as if you had to "make due" at the last minute. Anything that is distracting in a wedding picture is not a good look for your setup.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:45 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Congrats EVdjjohnnyVEGA-1

Thank you sir....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:46 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

And I'mma go out and get me some bright orange extension cords to run, so errybody can see all my pretty wires!

Oh yeah... get black power cables.

Something like this: www.ebay.com

Doesn't have to be the same brand and prices vary greatly but if you're gonna be running lots of stuff off of your extension cord (within reasonable limits), make sure it's 12ga. 14ga is fine for a single component or two but not too long. The important thing is to get black. Orange is tacky, stands out and draws attention, making it appear as if you had to "make due" at the last minute. Anything that is distracting in a wedding picture is not a good look for your setup.

I'm saying tho...

That orange can be a "Statement"!

DJ GaFFle 7:48 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Man, damn a coupled. For ergo's sake, I'd run mines the same way too for that look..

And THANK YOU...

****Noted coming from one of the esteemed members of the board, and probably OWNS the LOUDEST SUBS here....****

Decisions, decisions.....

Don't get me wrong... on most of my big events where I want the bass to count, I couple the subs. This pretty much insures the hot spot is on the dance floor. But again, dude was playing for a non-discerning crowd so best "appearance" would trump best sound for that situation. Plus, a pair of subs would block that "LG" logo on his booth. When I run a facade, I usually don't want subs blocking it. It all depends...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:51 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

. It all depends...

And this is my point.... I said earlier -

Quote:

This will be an upscale event, yet they'll want to bang out, and I will have a chance to open them up for the first time somewhere....

pdidy 7:57 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

oh shit how I miss that
Congrats

You are now official !!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:58 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

oh shit how I miss that

Congrats

You are now official !!

Thank you sir!

Joee 7:59 PM - 28 May, 2015

^ your welcome for putting you in contact wit the right people

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:01 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

^ your welcome for putting you in contact wit the right people

Yeah, I thanks Pdidy, Gaffle, and the rest of the crew earlier in the thread...

You didn't see that?

pdidy 8:03 PM - 28 May, 2015

Did you buy from proaudiostar ?

DJFree 8:10 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

When I run a facade, I usually don't want subs blocking it. It all depends...

Where do you put your subs when you don't want to block your facade? CDJ's you can put them anywhere.....turntables....different story.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:10 PM - 28 May, 2015

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Did you buy from proaudiostar ?

You have mail... :-)

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:11 PM - 28 May, 2015

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Where do you put your subs when you don't want to block your facade? CDJ's you can put them anywhere.....turntables....different story.

Yeah, thinking about this too....

Joee 8:11 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Did you buy from proaudiostar ?

man he bought from my peoples

Quote:

Yeah, I thanks Pdidy, Gaffle, and the rest of the crew earlier in the thread...

You didn't see that?

i'm going to call a truce for today, your starting to worry me…..you can't tell if i'm joking are not

Djc Jimenez 8:13 PM - 28 May, 2015

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:14 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Did you buy from proaudiostar ?

Quote:

man he bought from my peoples

U sure about that? :-)

Quote:

i'm going to call a truce for today, your starting to worry me…..you can't tell if i'm joking are not

Wavin' that white flag already....lmao.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:15 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Did you buy from proaudiostar ?

man he bought from my peoples

U sure about that? :-)

Quote:

i'm going to call a truce for today, your starting to worry me…..you can't tell if i'm joking are not

Wavin' that white flag already....lmao.

Joee 8:16 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

U sure about that? :-)

so is that why you say you paid 5K? if so you overpaid

Quote:

Wavin' that white flag already....lmao.

only for your benefit

DJFree 8:17 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

Yeah I like the look. I do it myself. imageshack.com

Just curious what other's do.

Joee 8:17 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

Yeah I like the look. I do it myself. imageshack.com

Just curious what other's do.

those aren't bad looks at all

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:19 PM - 28 May, 2015

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so is that why you say you paid 5K? if so you overpaid

If you say so - :-)

Quote:

only for your benefit

Now THAT was funny lmao.....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:20 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

Yeah I like the look. I do it myself. imageshack.com

Just curious what other's do.

But that's only one sub...

If you had 2 would you still do it?

Joee 8:24 PM - 28 May, 2015

^ look again there are two subs in the pic

Quote:

If you say so - :-)

i don't say so, i know so you that system cost less than 5K

DJFree 8:24 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

Yeah I like the look. I do it myself. imageshack.com

Just curious what other's do.

But that's only one sub...

If you had 2 would you still do it?

See that's the issue. I've only use two subs at parties. I've never had to use two at a wedding. The weddings I normally do are 80-150. When I do parties I use black scrim so I don't care if I cover the scrim.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:28 PM - 28 May, 2015

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^ look again there are two subs in the pic

Really?

You wanna look at that again?

imageshack.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:30 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

Yeah I like the look. I do it myself. imageshack.com

Just curious what other's do.

But that's only one sub...

If you had 2 would you still do it?

See that's the issue. I've only use two subs at parties. I've never had to use two at a wedding. The weddings I normally do are 80-150. When I do parties I use black scrim so I don't care if I cover the scrim.

Ahh! So there's a method to the madness!

Since it's a wedding, THAT makes a lot of sense to use one in the middle....clean look, not overbearing.

For the regular jawns, the Black Scrim makes a difference...

Nice attention to detail.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:30 PM - 28 May, 2015

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Oh, and ..... www.djjohnnym.com

Congrats Johnny! Nice rig, bro.

Thank you sir!

Joee 8:31 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

^ look again there are two subs in the pic

Really?

You wanna look at that again?

imageshack.com

do you wear glasses if so put them on now

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

DJFree 8:32 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

^ look again there are two subs in the pic

Really?

You wanna look at that again?

imageshack.com

do you wear glasses if so put them on now

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

He's referring to my photo. The Image Shack one is one sub.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:33 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

^ look again there are two subs in the pic

Really?

You wanna look at that again?

imageshack.com

do you wear glasses if so put them on now

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

He's referring to my photo. The Image Shack one is one sub.

Don't tell him nuffin...lmao.

AKIEM 8:41 PM - 28 May, 2015

s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com

Boom ur good.

Joee 8:43 PM - 28 May, 2015

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s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com

Boom ur good.

lmao….

Quote:

Don't tell him nuffin...lmao.

well you said

Quote:

It doesn't look bad even with a facace

hudsonvalleyweddingdj.com

Yeah I like the look. I do it myself. imageshack.com

Just curious what other's do.

But that's only one sub...

If you had 2 would you still do it?

there is 2 subs there …..you didn't specify witch pic

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:44 PM - 28 May, 2015

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Oh yeah... get black power cables.

Gonna hit up Home Depot in a bit...

Thanks again Gaffle!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:45 PM - 28 May, 2015

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there is 2 subs there …..you didn't specify witch pic

That's funny, everybody ELSE knew what I was talking about....

You too busy lookin' for props....lmao.

That wasn't even your picture meng....

Let the other contestants answer....

Joee 8:48 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

You too busy lookin' for props....lmao.

props…..for what?

you said i get broken off i don't need no props

DJ Guayo 9:14 PM - 28 May, 2015

That pic with Havana nights is my rig. It was for reality show event. FYI event was a hot mess with the TV production team, event coordinator etc. only approved music ca be played etc.

On another note. For big events I would couple the subs. Also note that you will have to delay the subs when the tops aren't on the same axis. You will need dsp (external or internal) to line up the tops and bottoms correctly.

Joee 9:32 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

That pic with Havana nights is my rig. It was for reality show event. FYI event was a hot mess with the TV production team, event coordinator etc. only approved music ca be played etc.

On another note. For big events I would couple the subs. Also note that you will have to delay the subs when the tops aren't on the same axis. You will need dsp (external or internal) to line up the tops and bottoms correctly.

have you done a gig yet were you were able to open the subs up full tilt? if yes please tell us how awesome the bass was

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:37 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

i don't need no props

This is true... :-)

DJ Val-BKNY11203 9:58 PM - 28 May, 2015

Welcome to the 21 Century JM.

Joee 10:08 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

i don't need no props

This is true... :-)

man you stop being funny more than a hour ago

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Welcome to the 21 Century JM.

no thats funny

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 11:25 PM - 28 May, 2015

Quote:

Welcome to the 21 Century JM.

Thank you sir!

DJ Guayo 12:17 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

That pic with Havana nights is my rig. It was for reality show event. FYI event was a hot mess with the TV production team, event coordinator etc. only approved music ca be played etc.

On another note. For big events I would couple the subs. Also note that you will have to delay the subs when the tops aren't on the same axis. You will need dsp (external or internal) to line up the tops and bottoms correctly.

have you done a gig yet were you were able to open the subs up full tilt? if yes please tell us how awesome the bass was

Not yet. I've run them at unity gain (12 o'clock) with the Rane 62 main set at 2 o'clock. This is plenty loud and plenty of bass. I will push them to limit this weekend to see how hard they hit. Right now now that bass is all up on ur chest.

Joee 12:47 AM - 29 May, 2015

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Right now now that bass is all up on ur chest.

i like how you described that bass….lol

www.rcf.it
that one won't be all up on ur chest……it will be all up in ur chest, your internal organs will shake…….lol

desmorider 1:14 AM - 29 May, 2015

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

desmorider 1:15 AM - 29 May, 2015

@djjohnny,

Did you get covers for your new setup? Was wifey home when the delivery was made?

DJ Val-BKNY11203 1:42 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:59 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

@djjohnny,

Did you get covers for your new setup? Was wifey home when the delivery was made?

Not yet, and nope she wasn't here....lol.

She knew they were coming tho...

said that was her Living Room set...

6 2:51 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

For a permanent install, I would still like to hear it though.

nm

paperkite 8:23 AM - 29 May, 2015

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really

The 745s are the best 15 in their price range out there...I love them the clarity and power us exceptional.

DJ Val-BKNY11203 9:24 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

For a permanent install, I would still like to hear it though.

nm

Agreed

Joee 11:23 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

Not yet, and nope she wasn't here....lol.

She knew they were coming tho...

said that was her Living Room set...

she's going to get it back later!

did you ever finish that man cave?

if not expect to put 5K less into it!

Joee 11:26 AM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

For a permanent install, I would still like to hear it though.

nm

Agreed

I've only heard 21" subs once in my life

stand next to it to long @ high spl & you will throw up

DJFree 1:14 PM - 29 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

desmorider 2:12 AM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

Get your weight up bruh. Ha.
I never said it would be fun to carry.

6 3:35 AM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

Get your weight up bruh. Ha.
I never said it would be fun to carry.

Well, common sense would dictate that you just simply don't carry something that heavy. You roll it. lol

nm

desmorider 3:43 AM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

Anyone ever hear/see this damn beast of a subwoofer????????????

www.dasaudio.com

It's 300lbs. I could care less what it sounds like.

Get your weight up bruh. Ha.
I never said it would be fun to carry.

Well, common sense would dictate that you just simply don't carry something that heavy. You roll it. lol

nm

haha

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:57 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quick n00b question....

Now both the ZXA5 and EXT15SP have "thru" ports...

Does it matter if I go to the Sub first, then to the ZXA5 or ZXA5 first then to the sub.

Obviously the ZXA5 will be used in Hi Pass mode, but that shouldn't make any difference.

The sub doesn't have a Low pass...

desmorider 4:21 PM - 30 May, 2015

Does not matter. Are you gigging today with them Jawns? Where did you get your new mixer?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:25 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Does not matter. Are you gigging today with them Jawns? Where did you get your new mixer?

Yep, testing them RIGHT NOW in the crib...

Dude....

This sound makes....no sense....

None...

It's snowing cuz plaster is falling from the ceiling....

desmorider 4:29 PM - 30 May, 2015

Do the subs sound best in live mode?

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:30 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Do the subs sound best in live mode?

Only tested in Music mode thus far...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:31 PM - 30 May, 2015

Gimmie a min...

Still deciding on 80 or 100 cutoff..

Decisions...decisions!

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:36 PM - 30 May, 2015

Music mode much better....More full...for recorded music at least...

desmorider 4:44 PM - 30 May, 2015

I really like the sound of the the etx subs, however they are a little heavy. But then we all know that good bass requires displacement and weight. And then you have the vrx918sp which seems to defie that thought process. Shit I can't decide which powered subs to get.

Pdiddy where are you?
How do the vrx918's stackup to the etx18sp's? Are they as loud, and drop as low as the etx's? Im getting old, and have been carrying speaker boxes since 1978. If i can get similar sound or close to similar I would like to save the weight. I was set to go with rcf 8004's, but i don't they are a great value at 2k per box, when compared to vrx or etx.

Decisions, decisions

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:47 PM - 30 May, 2015

Dude, this box is BANNNNAGGGGGIIINNNN....

At the place where I went to demo these, the guy picked THESE over the VRX's, even though the VRX's cost more....

I measured everything out in the explorer, so I'm gonna test out how they fit in a min before it rains. Bought a moving blanket to cover the interior of the ride as well....

No chances here mayne....It's gonna be a tight fit with everything I need to bring, but we'll see...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:50 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Quick n00b question....

Now both the ZXA5 and EXT15SP have "thru" ports...

Did I say 15SP?

smh...

18SP...

desmorider 4:56 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

Quick n00b question....

Now both the ZXA5 and EXT15SP have "thru" ports...

Did I say 15SP?

smh...

18SP...

You know you got the junior varsity 15in jawns.

Don't front cuz. 😊

Keep bangin dem shits at the crib and 5-0👮🏽 will be knocking with something for you to sign.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:57 PM - 30 May, 2015

My dudes are 5 -0, I be making 'em CD's....lmao.

Matter of fact I gotta make a new one before they hem me up...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:58 PM - 30 May, 2015

Trust, if I had the 15" jawn, there would be ZERO concerns about space....lol.

These jawns are a crime.....skrait up.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:00 PM - 30 May, 2015

I just realized I have ALL FOUR plugged into a single 15 amp wall socket....

No trips....nothing....

Man listen....

Joee 5:01 PM - 30 May, 2015

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It's snowing cuz plaster is falling from the ceiling....

my art 905-as 15" do this as well

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Dude....

This sound makes....no sense....

None...

safe to say you really like the new system?

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These jawns are a crime.....skrait up.

o so now you just murdering errything?……..lol

AKIEM 5:04 PM - 30 May, 2015

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My dudes are 5 -0, I be making 'em CD's....lmao.

Matter of fact I gotta make a new one before they hem me up...

They know ur downloading to right?

[you can ignore that - go back to you speakers dude]

desmorider 5:06 PM - 30 May, 2015

o so now you just murdering errything?……..lol

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Shit...........................

Your boys awake Johnny...........................

desmorider 5:11 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

I just realized I have ALL FOUR plugged into a single 15 amp wall socket....

No trips....nothing....

Man listen....

Man Listen........

Didn't I tell you this?
2 circuits(20) at a gig, unless your in a jam and not needing to make dem shits Waaaangggg son.

A young kid came into my boys stereo shop telling him "You need to make my shit Wang Son, I don't care what it cost"........

Joee 5:12 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

Shit I can't decide which powered subs to get.

dude…keep it all rcf…..go with the 8004 8003mkII or the lightest of the bunch the sub 708mkII @83 lbs
www.rcf.it

but something tells me you need that sub 8004 for them art 745
www.rcf.it

Joee 5:12 PM - 30 May, 2015

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needing to make dem shits Waaaangggg

lol

desmorider 5:13 PM - 30 May, 2015

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My dudes are 5 -0, I be making 'em CD's....lmao.

Matter of fact I gotta make a new one before they hem me up...

They know ur downloading to right?

[you can ignore that - go back to you speakers dude]

Was that posted in wrong thread?

Akiem, Did you get the 57mkii yet? What's the best street price on those? You think it's worth replacing a 62 with a 57mkii?

desmorider 5:18 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

My dudes are 5 -0, I be making 'em CD's....lmao.

Matter of fact I gotta make a new one before they hem me up...

Stop Frontin. You know your boys Mall Cops Bruh. Holding it down with their mag lights and pepper spray. No heat carrying asses.

Haha just shittin you. My brothers a new york state trooper.

And hit us off with a flick of all those speaker boxes stuffed in that new ride. That's good reference material for someone looking for a setup with an explorer.

AKIEM 5:19 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

My dudes are 5 -0, I be making 'em CD's....lmao.

Matter of fact I gotta make a new one before they hem me up...

They know ur downloading too right?

[ you can ignore that - go back to your speakers dude ]

Was that posted in wrong thread?

Akiem, Did you get the 57mkii yet? What's the best street price on those? You think it's worth replacing a 62 with a 57mkii?

Nah - Im waiting for something to be verified, but I might cut the check monday... Price, I dont know yet. But Im shooting for a not mentionable price - see how that goes. Yup, If I had a 62 I would have been ebayed it...

Joee 5:23 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Yup, If I had a 62 I would have been ebayed it...

you would have ebayed a 62 for the 57mkII…..whaaaatttt?

Quote:

Akiem, Did you get the 57mkii yet? What's the best street price on those? You think it's worth replacing a 62 with a 57mkii?

if i remember correctly i got a price of $1,300 to $1,500 for the mk2

AKIEM 5:27 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Yup, If I had a 62 I would have been ebayed it...

you would have ebayed a 62 for the 57mkII…..whaaaatttt?

G. D. Right. This why I dint buy one in the first place...

Quote:

Akiem, Did you get the 57mkii yet? What's the best street price on those? You think it's worth replacing a 62 with a 57mkii?

if i remember correctly i got a price of $1,300 to $1,500 for the mk2

hmm... that first number looks nice... but I havnt looked too hard yet

desmorider 5:30 PM - 30 May, 2015

I think my brother paid like $1349 at guitar center. He had them price match someone. Got to find out who. They won't budge off $1749 without the match. I don't know if it makes sense to replace the 62 with a 57ii. Each one has things the other doesn't. I think the 57ii has a better soundcard.

DJFree 5:37 PM - 30 May, 2015

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I think my brother paid like $1349 at guitar center. He had them price match someone. Got to find out who. They won't budge off $1749 without the match. I don't know if it makes sense to replace the 62 with a 57ii. Each one has things the other doesn't. I think the 57ii has a better soundcard.

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

Joee 5:41 PM - 30 May, 2015

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You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

DJFree 5:43 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

From my understanding they are.....it's built for Serato DJ.....maybe if I didn't have a 62 I'll go with the cheaper 57II.....but trade it in for a 57II......LOL

AKIEM 5:43 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

57MKII soundcard is 96k / its not the same card. And I favor software effects these days

But thats not the reason....

AKIEM 5:45 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

From my understanding they are.....it's built for Serato DJ.....maybe if I didn't have a 62 I'll go with the cheaper 57II.....but trade it in for a 57II......LOL

Yup - Like I said, I skipped those 6 numbers - supper glad I did too
(no chix)

DJFree 5:46 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

From my understanding they are.....it's built for Serato DJ.....maybe if I didn't have a 62 I'll go with the cheaper 57II.....but trade it in for a 57II......LOL

Yup - Like I said, I skipped those 6 numbers - supper glad I did too
(no chix)

Good info on that soundcard....why you don't like the 62? Just curious.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:47 PM - 30 May, 2015

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@Johnny The SLM Entertainment guys on YouTube copped 2 of the ETX18SPs. They hooked one up to a kill a watt meter and the power draw was 13 watts at -16db internal gain. I think that you could definitely run all of your speakers off of a 15 amp circuit.

Watch www.youtube.com

That is crazy.

He has the same Xenyx502 that I use for split cueing, I have the 802 as my previous small footprint outboard mixer, but now have the Allen and Heath...

desmorider 5:49 PM - 30 May, 2015

www.rane.com

www.rane.com

AKIEM 5:50 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

From my understanding they are.....it's built for Serato DJ.....maybe if I didn't have a 62 I'll go with the cheaper 57II.....but trade it in for a 57II......LOL

Yup - Like I said, I skipped those 6 numbers - supper glad I did too
(no chix)

Good info on that soundcard....why you don't like the 62? Just curious.

Well, I think the 57 was excellent. But the 62 took away some of the best features. And the MKII was built as if they just read the long lists of issues and suggestions people were making for the 57 and implemented those. Not for everyone of course (aside from no SSL) the MKII might be near perfect IMO.

I mean that has to be why they brought it back - some people dont like the 6

desmorider 6:00 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

@Johnny The SLM Entertainment guys on YouTube copped 2 of the ETX18SPs. They hooked one up to a kill a watt meter and the power draw was 13 watts at -16db internal gain. I think that you could definitely run all of your speakers off of a 15 amp circuit.

Watch www.youtube.com

That is crazy.

He has the same Xenyx502 that I use for split cueing, I have the 802 as my previous small footprint outboard mixer, but now have the Allen and Heath...

Those guys also had some issues when first using the etx subs. They at first didn't think they liked them because they were not as loud as they should be. They were smelling coils on one of the first gigs they did with them. Come to find out I think the issues was mostly with their mixer that was clipping and going bad, and some of the settings they had on the subs. Once sorted out I think they are now the proud owners of etx18sp subs. For the school dances that they do, they probably need like 2-4 more etx subs. I also sent them a message telling them they should get either etx15 tops or the almighty zxa5 tops to replace the zlx tops that they have, and they felt that the zxa5 could not be that much better, and louder then the zlx's. Ha, If they only knew. I left it alone at that point.

Joee 6:05 PM - 30 May, 2015

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they felt that the zxa5 could not be that much better, and louder then the zlx's.

what?

Quote:

If they only knew.

word, the rcf art 312-a is louder than the ev zlx15p

DJFree 6:10 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

From my understanding they are.....it's built for Serato DJ.....maybe if I didn't have a 62 I'll go with the cheaper 57II.....but trade it in for a 57II......LOL

Yup - Like I said, I skipped those 6 numbers - supper glad I did too
(no chix)

Good info on that soundcard....why you don't like the 62? Just curious.

Well, I think the 57 was excellent. But the 62 took away some of the best features. And the MKII was built as if they just read the long lists of issues and suggestions people were making for the 57 and implemented those. Not for everyone of course (aside from no SSL) the MKII might be near perfect IMO.

I mean that has to be why they brought it back - some people dont like the 6

Cool cool....gotcha.

desmorider 6:11 PM - 30 May, 2015

They use 4 zlx12p's as the tops, when not renting and doing their own gigs. They have lately been doing a bunch of production work with a company that uses qsc. 4 kw181, and 2 kw153's. They have rented etx35p for a gig and liked those. I don't why they are doubting the zxa5 and etx15p. The zlx12p is no comparison to those two boxes.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:35 PM - 30 May, 2015

Those ZXA5's run hella hot tho....

desmorider 6:43 PM - 30 May, 2015

HaHa. LOTT-SA unprotected JUICE.

745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Can you hold your hand on it for like 30sec? Or are they like really hot?

desmorider 6:51 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

You don't replace a 62 with a 57II.....no way....where do you see better sound card specs?

+1

what about the onboard effects……the 57II effects are software based correct?

From my understanding they are.....it's built for Serato DJ.....maybe if I didn't have a 62 I'll go with the cheaper 57II.....but trade it in for a 57II......LOL

Yup - Like I said, I skipped those 6 numbers - supper glad I did too
(no chix)

Good info on that soundcard....why you don't like the 62? Just curious.

Well, I think the 57 was excellent. But the 62 took away some of the best features. And the MKII was built as if they just read the long lists of issues and suggestions people were making for the 57 and implemented those. Not for everyone of course (aside from no SSL) the MKII might be near perfect IMO.

I mean that has to be why they brought it back - some people dont like the 6

Lots of cats loved the layout and joysticks on the O.G. 57. I could never get use to the layout and the Joysticks, but I'm an old head, and fought the transition to digital shit. I was spinning, not playing a fucking video game. Joysticks? gtfooh. My brother seems to like the 57mkii. I was up-top a few weeks ago and he was at a gig, and I wouldn't even mess with it. I guess I was intimidated by the joysticks. Ha. I must have a phobia or some shit.

desmorider 6:52 PM - 30 May, 2015

The O.G. 57 had like a cult following or something.

desmorider 7:01 PM - 30 May, 2015

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The O.G. 57 has like a cult following or something.

AKIEM 7:09 PM - 30 May, 2015

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The O.G. 57 had like a cult following or something.

It could be. I thought cats chose those boxes because the couldnt afford a new mixer or something - lol

I feel you on the video game - thats what I thought too. but when I figured out it was the best way to put the most controls in one space.....

Anyway, my guess is still Rane found out how many cats just wasnt budging from it and not upgrading.

I will make a video showing some things.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:17 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Can you hold your hand on it for like 30sec?

Yeah, no problem....Just didn't know powered speakers got this hot, but there IS an amp inside....so....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:18 PM - 30 May, 2015

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745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

Joee 8:12 PM - 30 May, 2015

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745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

same here the amp module on the rcf sub & top stays cool to the touch even outdoors in the summer heat

i can't say the same about the zxa5……even with the fan running full blast they still get pretty warm

when i first got them i remember having them on the stands walking a few feet back & smelling the amp module i didn't know it i was smelling plastic metal or what,had me worried

but they never failed on me outdoors in the summer heat also….i just don't like how hot they can get

Quote:

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

was up zxa5 man…….you going to bring your ball back to the play grown? or are you still mad :-(

DJ Dynamight 9:37 PM - 30 May, 2015

I'm playing a gig now with 1 ETX-15P and the speaker is in the sun. After 2 hours it started randomly cutting out for a few seconds at a time. I only got it a few weeks ago. My 1st gig was indoors and it was fine. Good thing I kept the boxes. It's time to get the RCFs lol

Joee 9:54 PM - 30 May, 2015

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I'm playing a gig now with 1 ETX-15P and the speaker is in the sun. After 2 hours it started randomly cutting out

sucks……I've done block parties with just two zxa5's no sub in the sun no problems, but now that i think about it i never had the speakers in the sun i would alwas put them inside the tent

not as high in the air as i would like but it always kept a good amount of shade on them

rcf's have never even as much as warmed up on me……..my guess is the amplifier is so damn efficient it doesn't produce a lot of heat?

pdidy 9:55 PM - 30 May, 2015

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I'm playing a gig now with 1 ETX-15P and the speaker is in the sun. After 2 hours it started randomly cutting out for a few seconds at a time. I only got it a few weeks ago. My 1st gig was indoors and it was fine. Good thing I kept the boxes. It's time to get the RCFs lol

The speaker was preforming as it was designed as per page 5 of your user manual "If an Electro-Voice loudspeaker is used outdoors on a sunny day, place the loudspeaker in a shaded or covered area. The loudspeaker amplifiers have protection circuits that temporarily shut the loudspeaker off when extremely high temperatures are reached. This can happen on hot days when the loudspeaker is in direct sunlight."

Therefore using it or ANY rcf powered speaker in direct sunlight is considered user error.

pdidy 9:58 PM - 30 May, 2015

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I've done block parties with just two zxa5's no sub in the sun no problems, but now that i think about it i never had the speakers in the sun i would alwas put them inside the tent

in my list of ways to blow a zxa5 direct sunlight was one of them.

Joee 10:03 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

I've done block parties with just two zxa5's no sub in the sun no problems, but now that i think about it i never had the speakers in the sun i would alwas put them inside the tent

in my list of ways to blow a zxa5 direct sunlight was one of them.

them suckers do get warm, even indoors ……..i don't know if you read the post above when i first started using them

i could literally smell something heating up in the box, never had any issues tho….has this happened to you? like a burring smell? could have been the fan pushing the air around?

DJ Dynamight 10:03 PM - 30 May, 2015

Lol thanks pdidy. I only read the DSP section on the user manual.

pdidy 10:17 PM - 30 May, 2015

Quote:

I've done block parties with just two zxa5's no sub in the sun no problems, but now that i think about it i never had the speakers in the sun i would alwas put them inside the tent

in my list of ways to blow a zxa5 direct sunlight was one of them.

them suckers do get warm, even indoors ……..i don't know if you read the post above when i first started using them

i could literally smell something heating up in the box, never had any issues tho….has this happened to you? like a burring smell? could have been the fan pushing the air around?

the only times ive notice unusual heat or smell was when they were abused an blew.

DJ Dynamight 10:27 PM - 30 May, 2015

-6db on the DSP at 60Hz and problem solved.

DJ Guayo 11:07 PM - 30 May, 2015

Have you guys seems the sun protection covers from cloud 9? I ran into these when I was looking for speaker covers.

www.cloud9covers.com

Joee 11:21 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Have you guys seems the sun protection covers from cloud 9? I ran into these when I was looking for speaker covers.

www.cloud9covers.com

i don't know?……the cover made out of some kind of reflective material seems like a cool idea, but are they made of some shinny materiel? i.e mirrors on stick

also the parts that would need the sun to be reflected the most won't be covered! the amp module and the front

did you check out the rcf covers, i really like that i don't have to remove the cover to use the speaker…….they have zippered flaps like so
rcf.media-display.it

Joee 11:26 PM - 30 May, 2015

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the only times ive notice unusual heat or smell was when they were abused an blew.

funny…when mine blew there was no smell, but thats because he didn't blow it…..he ripped the speaker right off of the coil……lol

imageshack.com

imageshack.com

it was a battle between teach me how to dougie & the DVX3150, Dougie won……lol

DJ Guayo 11:32 PM - 30 May, 2015

Dougie would always clip my KW152. This was when I ran tops only and no sub.

Joee 11:35 PM - 30 May, 2015

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Dougie would always clip my KW152. This was when I ran tops only and no sub.

I've never ever had problem with my zxa5……it was my boy that was playing on them, his serato mater gain was ALLLLLL the way up to the right & the deck gains in serato were in the red also

i made the mistake to not look as his computer, he was cool about it tho….he paid the recone fee & the speaker is good as new

desmorider 12:04 AM - 31 May, 2015

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745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?[/quote

Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

Joee 12:28 AM - 31 May, 2015

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Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

it's a good thing you said that ….otherwise he might be mad at you

you know he still mad at me…….lol

any chance you will come to philly? so we can do a proper speaker shoot out of the zxa5 vs the art 745!

cheese steaks are on me! i will buy you one from pats & one from geno's…..you decide witch one is better

desmorider 12:33 AM - 31 May, 2015

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I really like the sound of the the etx subs, however they are a little heavy. But then we all know that good bass requires displacement and weight. And then you have the vrx918sp which seems to defie that thought process. Shit I can't decide which powered subs to get.

Pdiddy where are you?
How do the vrx918's stackup to the etx18sp's? Are they as loud, and drop as low as the etx's? Im getting old, and have been carrying speaker boxes since 1978. If i can get similar sound or close to similar I would like to save the weight. I was set to go with rcf 8004's, but i don't they are a great value at 2k per box, when compared to vrx or etx.

Decisions, decisions

Pdiddy,

Any input?

desmorider 12:35 AM - 31 May, 2015

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Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

it's a good thing you said that ….otherwise he might be mad at you

you know he still mad at me…….lol

any chance you will come to philly? so we can do a proper speaker shoot out of the zxa5 vs the art 745!

cheese steaks are on me! i will buy you one from pats & one from geno's…..you decide witch one is better

Yeah we can make it happen sometime in june. I will pm you so we can hash out a date to do it.

Joee 12:39 AM - 31 May, 2015

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Yeah we can make it happen sometime in june. I will pm you so we can hash out a date to do it.

you do that ……lets put this zxa5 vs art 745 to bed once and for all

Joee 12:42 AM - 31 May, 2015

i will be doing a speaker shoot out of several speaker/sub in a catering hall i dj at in june

it would be great if you could make it that day…….

desmorider 12:51 AM - 31 May, 2015

What day? You doing that shootout joee?

Joee 1:01 AM - 31 May, 2015

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What day? You doing that shootout joee?

the date is still up in the air ,but defiantly in june…..maybe we can work around your schedule

we are testing a few 12" tops & a kw181 vs my 905 sub

i would love to add the 745 vs zxa5 to the mix

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:32 AM - 31 May, 2015

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745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

Aitte. I'll tell u one thing it takes me 3 times as long to set up tho.

Oh and the band is here, I haven't played 4 records yet, lol, 2 hours to go

desmorider 1:36 AM - 31 May, 2015

Quote:

745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

Aitte. I'll tell u one thing it takes me 3 times as long to set up tho.

Oh and the band is here, I haven't played 4 records yet, lol, 2 hours to go

I hope they are not playing through your new setup. I remember the first time I tried to do sound for a group. It was for my fathers choir. I tore up mad shit that night not knowing what I was doing. No comp/limiters or processing gear. Damn expensive lesson.

desmorider 1:39 AM - 31 May, 2015

Quote:

745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

Aitte. I'll tell u one thing it takes me 3 times as long to set up tho.

Oh and the band is here, I haven't played 4 records yet, lol, 2 hours to go

You getting madd quawk for that upscale Jawn, and not having the speakers break a sweat. How long did it take you to setup? Just you, or you got a helper?

Joee 2:02 AM - 31 May, 2015

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You getting madd quawk for that upscale Jawn, and not having the speakers break a sweat.

you think he should take a full pay considering he's not doing all the work? or should the band get a cut of his gwap…….lol

fyi…..i said it before i'll say it again i love working with bands

i did a jewish party last week if i played two hours that was a lot

i also let the band play thru my system….theres was weak…..i put them on mine and the said DAMN….that bass……lol

DJ GaFFle 2:09 AM - 31 May, 2015

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Those ZXA5's run hella hot tho....

I don't recall ever noticing mine getting "hot". I've played them outside several times and have never experienced a thermal shutdown.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:11 AM - 31 May, 2015

Quote:

745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

Hells no bro. Im very happy and excited for you. Your forging new ground evdjjohnny1. Do your thing bruh. Choice and options are wonderful things.

Aitte. I'll tell u one thing it takes me 3 times as long to set up tho.

Oh and the band is here, I haven't played 4 records yet, lol, 2 hours to go

You getting madd quawk for that upscale Jawn, and not having the speakers break a sweat. How long did it take you to setup? Just you, or you got a helper?

Normally takes me 20 mins, roll 2 speakers in, plug in 1 speaker wire each, plug in the amp rack, set up turntables, go.

Now I gotta add a stand, physically put 2 tops on the stands, run 4 speaker wires, and a t least 4 AC runs.

I haven't even put music thru the ZXA5's for 2 hours, and they warm to the touch....

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 2:21 AM - 31 May, 2015

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Because of all of this thermal stuff, I'm beginning to think the RCF 745 would've been the better option. They don't get hot, which leads to more efficiency/less power draw, as well as superior clarity due to that epic horn.

lol

Joee 2:26 AM - 31 May, 2015

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I haven't even put music thru the ZXA5's for 2 hours, and they warm to the touch....

not good……do mine get warm, yes but not when standing idle

Joee 2:29 AM - 31 May, 2015

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They don't get hot, which leads to more efficiency/less power draw

my rcf 312-a & fd12-a both stayed cool to the touch when using them outdoors in the summer heat

witch leads me to believe the amp/speaker are more efficient

Joee 2:32 AM - 31 May, 2015

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Just wondering if the RCFs have an edge over the EVs.

me and desmorider are working this out right now

lets see if we can make this happen & put this 745 vs zxa5 to bed once and for all

pdidy 4:11 AM - 31 May, 2015

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I really like the sound of the the etx subs, however they are a little heavy. But then we all know that good bass requires displacement and weight. And then you have the vrx918sp which seems to defie that thought process. Shit I can't decide which powered subs to get.

Pdiddy where are you?
How do the vrx918's stackup to the etx18sp's? Are they as loud, and drop as low as the etx's? Im getting old, and have been carrying speaker boxes since 1978. If i can get similar sound or close to similar I would like to save the weight. I was set to go with rcf 8004's, but i don't they are a great value at 2k per box, when compared to vrx or etx.

Decisions, decisions

Pdiddy,

Any input?

ive demoed the etx by its self.......the vrx and etx are close enough in performance that i could not tell which is louder or lower without a side by side test. so if choosing base on size a weight the vrx is the obvious choice.

desmorider 5:46 AM - 31 May, 2015

I have seen it for $1125

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:44 PM - 2 June, 2015

Just saw this....

Quote:

745a's never break a sweat, Bruh......

same here the amp module on the rcf sub & top stays cool to the touch even outdoors in the summer heat

i can't say the same about the zxa5……even with the fan running full blast they still get pretty warm

when i first got them i remember having them on the stands walking a few feet back & smelling the amp module i didn't know it i was smelling plastic metal or what,had me worried

but they never failed on me outdoors in the summer heat also….i just don't like how hot they can get

So them getting hot IS a known issue....

And this

Quote:

Mmmmkay.....and?

Is this leading up to an "I told you so" moment or sumphin?

was up zxa5 man…….you going to bring your ball back to the play grown? or are you still mad :-(

Ain't nobody mad bruh, just realizing that you're more of a philosopher than anything else....

Joee 4:55 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Ain't nobody mad bruh, just realizing that you're more of a philosopher than anything else....

well that is your opinion and your initialed to it

Quote:

So them getting hot IS a known issue....

And this

i wouldn't call it a issue, i guess this is just how ev's run?

zlx's & elxs's also got pretty warm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:04 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Ain't nobody mad bruh, just realizing that you're more of a philosopher than anything else....

well that is your opinion and your initialed to it

LMAOOOOOO!!!!

I just CAN'T right now...Bwhahahahahahahaha....

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So them getting hot IS a known issue....

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i wouldn't call it a issue, i guess this is just how ev's run?

zlx's & elxs's also got pretty warm

Again, GUESSING......

6 5:08 PM - 2 June, 2015

Any speaker that runs hot - actually, make that any piece of electronic equipment that runs hot should be of concern.

nm

Joee 5:11 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Again, GUESSING......

you do really take thing to literal

guess is a figure of speech

no there not guesses there actual facts from actual speakers that i own have owned & used extensively

zxa5 zxa1 zxa1 sub zlx12p zlx15p elx112p elx115p elx118p sxa100+ sxa250 (all ev's i own or have owned) run warm/hot to the touch

is that enough fact for you

6 5:13 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Again, GUESSING......

you do really take thing to literal

guess is a figure of speech

no there not guesses there actual facts from actual speakers that i own have owned & used extensively

zxa5 zxa1 zxa1 sub zlx12p zlx15p elx112p elx115p elx118p sxa100+ sxa250 (all ev's i own or have owned) run warm/hot to the touch

is that enough fact for you

DON'T GET MAD. lol

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:15 PM - 2 June, 2015

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is that enough fact for you

Bruh, at this point, anything you say is in question....

A LOT of what you say is speculation....

You do have SOME valid points, but a lot of times you be guessing.

I'll admit tho, you had me fooled....

No probs.

Joee 5:15 PM - 2 June, 2015

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DON'T GET MAD. lol

lol @ you thinking i'm mad

he been taking all about facts so i gave him facts

Mr.Jace 5:32 PM - 2 June, 2015

Joee is right about the ev's. I own the elx112p and once owned the zlx15p. Both do in fact get warm to the touch. Not hot, but just warm. Its normal.

Joee 5:45 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Joee is right about the ev's. I own the elx112p and once owned the zlx15p. Both do in fact get warm to the touch. Not hot, but just warm. Its normal.

are you sure……

but are you really sure…

i like to make stuff up some people say…..

lol

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:56 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Joee is right about the ev's. I own the elx112p and once owned the zlx15p. Both do in fact get warm to the touch. Not hot, but just warm. Its normal.

But peep what Joee* said EARLIER.....

Quote:

I haven't even put music thru the ZXA5's for 2 hours, and they warm to the touch....

not good……do mine get warm, yes but not when standing idle

So which is it?

Joee 6:02 PM - 2 June, 2015

i'm making stuff up bro

6 6:07 PM - 2 June, 2015

more lol's

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:11 PM - 2 June, 2015

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i'm making stuff up bro

Now u mad...(emotion)

Where are those emoticons?

Joee 6:15 PM - 2 June, 2015

i'm seeing a familiar pattern ….of hand holding here

lol @ me being made

6 6:16 PM - 2 June, 2015

Similar pattern yes: You trying to change the subject and make it about Johnny and I now.

lol

nm

Joee 6:17 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Similar pattern yes: You trying to change the subject and make it about Johnny and I now.

lol

nm

wrong

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:21 PM - 2 June, 2015

I'm talking to YOU.....Not Sixxx...

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:22 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Similar pattern yes: You trying to change the subject and make it about Johnny and I now.

lol

nm

wrong

So now Sixxx can't tell you what YOU'RE thinking?

C'mon man is that considered Joee* Privilege or sumphin?

6 6:24 PM - 2 June, 2015

hahaha

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:30 PM - 2 June, 2015

Joee* Privilege allows you to

Quote:

make stuff up (like) some people say…..

Is that like Creative License or something?

Joee 6:31 PM - 2 June, 2015

com O dee

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:31 PM - 2 June, 2015

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was up ~~zxa5~~ <insert random speaker brand name> man…….you going to bring your ball back to the play grown? or are you still mad :-(

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:39 PM - 2 June, 2015

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com O dee

www.djjohnnym.com

Flag on the Play!

We will have to insist that you be ORIGINAL....

Quote:

6 2:25 PM - 2 June, 2015
"I'm exercising my right to use Joee* Privilege"

Pure comedy lol

nm

Joee 6:41 PM - 2 June, 2015

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com O dee

www.djjohnnym.com

Flag on the Play!

We will have to insist that you be ORIGINAL....

Quote:

6 2:25 PM - 2 June, 2015
"I'm exercising my right to use Joee* Privilege"

Pure comedy lol

nm

i'll give you that one that, that is your line

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 6:43 PM - 2 June, 2015

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i'll give you that one that, that is your line

Of course you will...

As usual...

Joee* Privilege entitled you to "borrow" it huh?

Joee 6:45 PM - 2 June, 2015

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i'll give you that one that, that is your line

Of course you will...

As usual...

Joee* Privilege entitled you to "borrow" it huh?

nope i made it my own

yours "Pure comedy"

mine "com o dee"

6 6:54 PM - 2 June, 2015

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com O dee

See? And this cat says that I'M the one that's not ORIGINAL.

Too easy. lol

nm

Joee 6:56 PM - 2 June, 2015

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See? And this cat says that I'M the one that's not ORIGINAL.

Too easy. lol

thats original

i made one word into 3 …….what you talking?

6 6:58 PM - 2 June, 2015

"i'll give you that one that, that is your line"

yeah... original alright

nm

Joee 6:59 PM - 2 June, 2015

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"i'll give you that one that, that is your line"

yeah... original alright

nm

man what you talking 3 words bro

pdidy 7:26 PM - 2 June, 2015

Untracking

DJFree 7:27 PM - 2 June, 2015

Quote:

Untracking

^^^ ^^^

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:28 PM - 2 June, 2015

Quote:

Untracking

Quote:

Untracking

^^^ ^^^

NOOOOO!!!!

Ok, I'll leave Joee* alone....

But he better stay in his corner....

Joee 7:28 PM - 2 June, 2015

Quote:

Untracking

Quote:

Untracking

^^^ ^^^

usually what happens when certain individuals join a thread

Joee 7:29 PM - 2 June, 2015

Quote:

Untracking

Quote:

Untracking

^^^ ^^^

NOOOOO!!!!

Ok, I'll leave Joee* alone....

But he better stay in his corner....

like i said eddy "eddie" murphy

but i an mad at you playa

6 7:30 PM - 2 June, 2015

Out of curiosity, how old were you Joee when you started DJing?

nm

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 7:33 PM - 2 June, 2015

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ive demoed the etx by its self.......the vrx and etx are close enough in performance that i could not tell which is louder or lower without a side by side test. so if choosing base on size a weight the vrx is the obvious choice.

Interesting....I thought you Demo-ed them side by side....

The spot has both of them.....

Joee 7:36 PM - 2 June, 2015

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Out of curiosity, how old were you Joee when you started DJing?

nm

13 learning at home with my brothers gear

16 i started my very first bar gig (i looked older) making $50 a night

from there it was a rap……i haven't stopped since

AKIEM 7:52 PM - 2 June, 2015

Tracking.

Joee 7:57 PM - 2 June, 2015

Quote:

Tracking.

lmao

that was funny

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:45 PM - 4 June, 2015

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i'll give you that one that, that is your line

Of course you will...

As usual...

Joee* Privilege entitled you to "borrow" it huh?

nope i made it my own

yours "Pure comedy"

mine "com o dee"

AGAIN, you don't know WTF you're talking about...or just straight lying...

I actually coined the phrase Com-O-DEE here back in May of 2013

serato.com

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:09 PM - 28 May, 2013

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in the GENERAL area.

If you DON'T WANT me to post on threads, create your own BARBRA thread and I'm very sure I won't BE visiting IT

lmao
I didn't say you couldn't READ posts on here, you IDIOT.

I just was making note of how soon you come in to hold his hand, lol...

That's all.

Y'all make a GREAT team, I tell ya...

Christopher Williams and Girl "6"!

Pure com-mo-dee...

I even started the whole "Hold His Hand" thing, that you ALSO bit...

I also used it here -> serato.com

Quote:

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:41 PM - 3 May, 2015

Oh so at THAT POINT, YOU ~~Got Mad and...~~ decided that the conversation was over...

Then you throw in the filler comments, etc..etc...

We get it...lmao.

Com-mo-dee

And lastly here -> serato.com

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DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 4:33 PM - 11 May, 2015

George Zimmerman was involved in a shooting with another man, and suffered a minor gunshot wound ... according to police.

The shooting went down Monday afternoon on a road in Lake Mary, Fl ... where Zimmerman lives. Police tell us they got a call for a road rage incident. News footage from the scene shows a bullet hole in the front passenger side window of Zimmerman's truck.

We do not know the race of the other man involved in the shooting. While police describe Zimmerman's injury as "minor" -- some media reports say he was shot in the face.

Zimmerman was acquitted in the Trayvon Martin shooting in 2013 -- and more recently was accused of assaulting his girlfriend. She later changed her story and refused to press charges.

LOL, straight com-mo-dee...

Cats be straight Makin' Sh*t Up

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:46 PM - 4 June, 2015

Straight Fraud.

Joee 6:05 PM - 4 June, 2015

www.clipartpanda.com

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 9:01 PM - 4 June, 2015

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Johnny you have no chill leave him alone

He'll be alright. Facts is facts.

AKIEM 9:04 PM - 4 June, 2015

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Johnny you have no chill leave him alone

He'll be alright. Facts is facts.

and MSU is MSU

Joee 9:21 PM - 4 June, 2015

Quote:

and MSU is MSU

what is MSU?

dj_soo 1:20 AM - 5 June, 2015

This forum is rapidly just becoming "old dudes arguing on the internet.com"

JDforKing 1:43 AM - 5 June, 2015

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This forum is rapidly just becoming "old dudes arguing on the internet.com"

Yep lol

DJ Dub Cowboy 1:29 PM - 5 June, 2015

this WAS a good thread. a successful Johnny story has taken place here.

He even got me to join the Swarm club

DJ Val-BKNY11203 3:58 PM - 5 June, 2015

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this WAS a good thread. a successful Johnny story has taken place here.

He even got me to join the Swarm club

Did you get a good price on them?

DJ Dub Cowboy 4:49 PM - 5 June, 2015

actually, I'm backing out of those...I think.

might go for two mini kintas and a blizzard Kaptivator instead. I hate strobes and I have two R/G mini lasers already.

plus I wasn't getting the good deal. Reading is fundamental

I also have a 5 pack of Eternal cubeEchos coming but this is all for a different thread

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:00 PM - 5 June, 2015

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this WAS a good thread. a successful Johnny story has taken place here.

He even got me to join the Swarm club

Those Swarms didn't perform like I expected, but were MUCH better than a blank.

DJ Dub Cowboy 5:01 PM - 5 June, 2015

^^ I take your word highly.

swarms...out

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:02 PM - 5 June, 2015

I also found myself disabling the strobe but it's definitely a great one piece to carry if you just want to have a decent light out there.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 5:08 PM - 5 June, 2015

The place I used them at didn't have the place COMPLETELY dark, but rather dim, so I wonder if that had anything to do with it. I'm gonna give them another go, just to see...

DJFree 5:18 PM - 5 June, 2015

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The place I used them at didn't have the place COMPLETELY dark, but rather dim, so I wonder if that had anything to do with it. I'm gonna give them another go, just to see...

If it's not completely dark and you don't have fog/haze it won't look like the YouTube videos.

Taipanic 5:20 PM - 5 June, 2015

It's probably the best sub $200 light but it's still a sub $200 light. Great for putting out some lights for people who don't want to pay extra for good lights.

Joee 5:56 PM - 5 June, 2015

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It's probably the best sub $200 light but it's still a sub $200 light. Great for putting out some lights for people who don't want to pay extra for good lights.

+1

for $165 you can't beat it, i got mine even cheaper

Quote:

If it's not completely dark and you don't have fog/haze it won't look like the YouTube videos.

+1

an experienced user of lighting effects would know this

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:11 PM - 5 June, 2015

okay so....

best haze low price hazer. I'm not springing for a Radiance at the moment.

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:12 PM - 5 June, 2015

best low end hazer...should say

Joee 6:16 PM - 5 June, 2015

@DJ Dub Cowboy if the room id dark you won't really need it

DJ Dub Cowboy 6:18 PM - 5 June, 2015

it probably won't be.

at least the gig I have next week.

DJFree 6:21 PM - 5 June, 2015

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best low end hazer...should say

I use the ADJ VF1300 fogger. I hear decent things about the Chauvet Haze 2D. Honestly I've gotten to use my fogger 3 times. Most venues I do won't allow it. I hear you won't get much life out of a cheap Hazer but one of the DJ's I follow on YouTube has had his Chauvet Haze 2D for 3 years. I hear the Radiance is where it's at. If you only need it for a gig or two just save yourself some money and get a fogger.

DJ Dub Cowboy 8:36 PM - 5 June, 2015

2 Kintas and Hurricane 2D is what I went with. I know better than to expect much without some haze or fog . I personally hate fog, water based haze is the only thing I like and can get away with in venues.

DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 8:42 PM - 5 June, 2015

Quote:

It's probably the best sub $200 light but it's still a sub $200 light. Great for putting out some lights for people who don't want to pay extra for good lights.

This all day.

Joee 8:42 PM - 5 June, 2015

did you ever get to see the GigBar? pretty nice 4 in one that has the mini kinta style lights

DJFree 8:42 PM - 5 June, 2015

Quote:

2 Kintas and Hurricane 2D is what I went with. I know better than to expect much without some haze or fog . I personally hate fog, water based haze is the only thing I like and can get away with in venues.

Report back on that 2D....I'm interested in adding it at a later point if it's any good.

DJ Dub Cowboy 4:02 AM - 6 June, 2015

will do. I had a Radiance before, so I have some good knowledge to compare it to. That thing always made it smell like waffles

DJ Dub Cowboy 4:03 AM - 6 June, 2015

probably going with a RGB laser between the Kintas

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