Nope, I mix video plus the thing can be used as a MIDI controller.............

I agree, especially for those users with chronic laptop issues involving dropouts, crashes and being computer illiterate (user error).

yeah , was a threat, Nintendo and Sony! Nintendo Signed a deal with Sony...... Sony dropped that partnership, and casually launch Playstation ........ be careful Serato!

Shame it's not Serato certified ... if I could use it as a regular Serato (or even Traktor) controller with the onboard screen integrated with Serato then switch instantly to playing tracks from USB sticks if Serato crashed I'd love it. Needs to be four channel with a dedicated mic channel though. Think DDJ-SZ with screens and memory stick slot

Mike

It's VERY unlikely that it ever will be either, so I wouldn't hold your breath in anticipation of it.
DJTT & DJWorx said that there is likely to be a Traktor mapping though. You see, this is where Serato's closed mapping nature will definitely hurt the brand.

Still though, this thing doesn't touch the capability of even the SR, let alone other Pioneer SDJ controllers. But when they release the next version of this that is more akin to a DDJ-SZ, then Serato might be in some serious trouble. Hell, even I may get on board with that. Rekordbox's exclusion of FLAC is what keeps me on Serato/Traktor. But if rekordbox started supporting FLAC, it would be really hard to stick around.

I wasn't expecting certification really, and I think even a Traktor mapping is unlikely to make use of the displays or it'll be a competitor for the S8. Think I'll be sticking with the SZ and a second laptop as backup for now!

Mike

Totally agree.

They might, I'd say Pioneer stills wants some payback for the Z2. After all Pioneer had the DJM T1 first.......

Imagine a top player pioneer XDJ-RZ version. 4 channel stand alone recordbox unit, with individual display for each deck?

This might be a serious threat for software players on the market if you ask me. And even a new standard for clubs in the near future...

Actually it's been announced that it is Traktor ready. DJWorx found it posted somewhere on PioneerDJ's website.

Wouldn't pioneer be shooting themselves in the foot and take away from CDJ/XDJ - DJM purchases. I mean, if you could get all the functionality of 4 cdjs and a mixer for a fraction of the cost, and not need a laptop......

serato.com

Clubs will NEVER adopt a controller as their main source!!

XDJ players/DJM mixers are going to be perfectly safe.
CDJ....not so much!

I predict by the time they have an XDJ-2000nxs, that the CDJ line will be discontinued.

This all in one unit got me so interested that I downloaded rekordbox and tried it out last night for the time ever. I am very impressed by it. I love the simplicity of the software.

What could be a killer and a true success for XDJ-RX is the ease ability to search tracks some how.

I am giving this gear some serious consideration. I just wonder if Rane is going to release something or Allen & Heath.

PS, what is a threat to Serato is a one-to-one software to hardware integration. I think Pioneer for DJ is like Apple for smartphone if this trend continues. As is, Serato is like Microsoft. If and when Serato do decide to produce its own hardware, the reception will be as warm and as welcome by the partners as those given by Microsoft's partners with their Surface product.

I see Serato offering an embedded solution of SDJ to their current hardware partners than coming out with their own equipment. What I'm waiting on is which of the Serato hardware partners will step up to the plate first with a similar all-in-one, no laptop needed controller like this one. But yeah Serato has to adapt on this one.

<<<<waiting on these guys

Is this still true? I heard they have updated the info as it was incorrect. Could you link as I am curious which is true at this point?

They even say in the DJworx page that "You might be lucky and get a Pioneer DJ produced Traktor mapping" but the go straight to "these will only be compromises — the XDJ-RX is for rekordbox"


I have a feeling the wait may be a long one. Any word on Denon AT ALL from NAMM? I have always suspected that InMusic purchased Denon just to get rid of Numark's closest competition.

I men what was the last thing to come from Denon? Not trying to insult I am just curious.

Nope, outside of "Big things coming" on facebook page and the fact that they have a booth next to Pioneers O.o ...that's why I said "waiting" I'm good for now..well I hate to say it considering a used mac if I can't get these couple remaining glitches solved by this weekend, but curious to see what this merger did also. Love my 900SRT really wish I would've got that first instead of taking the hit later :(.

I'm not sure that because it is a Laptop free product that this also means it's problem free. Don't get me wrong it looks OK, but this isn't really pushing the boundaries and it's nothing new either. At least it stands more chance the SCS.4DJ

I'm sure it might suit some DJ's, but a threat for Serato I don't think so.

Me too, and I hope to be proved wrong.

Me too LOL. I would HATE to see Denon be hushed or held back.

Me 3

Guess well find out tomorrow....

If it is trouble free, then software developers might get in trouble. Pioneer will make it a standard for sure.

The music still is analyzed via software on Mac or PC and and in the past Rekordbox had some stability issues. This was pretty much the same concept as with Serato though. Many times (obviously NOT always) it can be avoided. Not sure if they were fixed yet though as I never had any issues with either Serato or Rekordbox in terms of stability.

Then youre not thinking outside your personal box......

If this product proves to be stable think of all the failed Serato dj users it will now be so much more appealing too.

Think of all the windows pc users who no longer need to tweak, optimize or "GET A MAC".

Think of all the users who will see it as "One less thing to worry about" (Laptop).

So if this product proves to be stable and reliable, I would say YES serato has obvious needs for concern.

I am so glad i walked away from serato when Serato DJ was dropped. Been using Rekordbox without any issues. Now just more options to go without a laptop and worries. Cant wait

I agree with all of this!

I am mate, most DJ booths have never been designed to enough to space to even accommodate all the modern equipment and DJ handovers / changeovers are a pain at the best of times.

As for.....



These people are already out there and they carry a CD wallet or a record bag.

To use industry standard equipment you have a few options and the XDJ-RX will never be one of them. I'm sure it will be popular with mobile DJ's and alike, but even most of them will still bring their laptops as that screen is too small to be looking at all night long.

You know you can use Rekordbox already with cdjs? So people already are using rekorbox in the clubs and change over is a usb stick!!!

I've been seeing more and more djs move to rekordbox and that's mainly because serato hid is so god damn buggy! And djs have been wanting a Rekordbox controller for gigs that do not have Rekordbox supported cdjs!



Nailed it!!! 100% agree!
And I'm the most pro Serato person around lol

If your pro Serato you will use Serato, and if you pro Rekordbox you will use Rekordbox. And this isn't the best option for Rekordbox users (as far as I'm concerned) it's just another option.

Wait until Rekordbuddy comes with Serato support and people can have there serato cues, loops and beatgrids moved into Rekordbox format by the press of a button. More will at least try it out.

For me being able to search is what keeps me on a laptop and the fact i do video.

But Rekordbox is getting a better option for audio only these days.

For what I can conclude with this new product of pioneer:
They have a stand alone player and CDJ players that can handle these files and workflow already.
You don't have to invest in a laptop that can fail you.
Now they bring out a "controller" version at a feasible price range with all the best 'goodies' and 'functionalities' of the larger professional pioneer systems included in it.

Loops, beatmatch, hotcues, top notch effects, filters, balanced outs, connectivity possibilties... it's all there.

Look at the costs: +/- 1500$ for all this stuff above and you're compatible with the workflow of the club standard in the world as we speak.

Serato system:
Depending on your setup, but controller or mixer with same professional architecture between 800$ and 2500$,
then a recent laptop (macbook pro) also +/- 2000$ average.
See the price difference?

Conclusion: This product draws definitely my attention...

I believe this is more then a 'serious' threat for Serato

As smart as this controller is and the fact that Pioneer has included some of the FX from past mixers such as one of my favorites the DJM-600 (Man i miss the fun i had with that mixer!). One thing we are missing is software updates and the lack of feature improvements that come with Serato now but not with this new controller as i can see at the moment.

So yes now it may seem like a cheaper option but in the future if a hot new software based feature gets launched will you need a whole new piece of kit?

Interesting times.

I'm pretty sure, pioneer will have an update function for controllers like this. (via Firmware)

Now, I'm a serato addict for sure, never used rekordbox, but this unit almost asks to be tested.

The only way for Serato to counter this evolution, is to make sure they are also compatible with these units and indeed build in revolutionary functions that this unit can't do on it's own...
(Video is one of these features...)

They updated Rekordbox with 3.0 that has new features and works on the cdjs.

We're all in love w' the software, else we wouldn't be here. But your average DJ could care less about features like the SP-6, Flip, Video, etc.. Most of the DJs I come across just want a stable mixing platform, some EFX, and the most portable library they can get. The Pioneer/Rekordbox ecosystem fills that for a lot of people. The problem was, you had to spend a small fortune to get that in a package that felt professional. Sure, you could get the CDJ/DJM-350 range, but the mixer portion was SERIOUSLY lacking in the EFX department. The RX answers even that shortcoming.

Naw, this range (XDJ) DEFINITELY has the potential to be a BIG threat for Serato, Traktor, and VDJ.

Nope you're still in the box because this comment makes absolutely no sense because.....
1. The Pioneer XDJ-RX is smaller than industry standard gear so if it will not fit then nothing would've ever fit in the first place......

2. if a DJ booth already has in house gear with no extra room then there's no reason to bring in a Pioneer XDJ-RX or a serato controller for that matter.

3. this is a controller so it's geared towards the mobile DJ who generally is never inside of a booth.


Wow, you really dont get it...."One less thing to worry about" (Laptop)" means.....
1. One less thing to worry about FAILING aka crashing or drop outs.
2. One less thing to worry about BUYING aka expensive $1500-$3000 MBP.
CD wallet or a record bag is not expensive or prone to failure so nobody needs to worry about them. Do you get the difference here ?
nobody is claiming that the XDJ RX is industry-standard where did you get that idea from ? YOU do you realize that the XDJ-RX is a CONTROLLER right ?



I don't think you're taking the time to think about what you're saying because the XDJ-RX
has a larger 7 inch screen compared to the Industry standard cdj2000 smaller 6.1 inch screen. And some of the richest DJs in the world stare at them all night with no complaints.....lol

The days of industry standard is long gone. Every joe smoe brings his/her own equipment unless you make 7 digits figure and fart out music.

Naw, Pioneer CDJ/DJM is the Industry standard. At least within clubs and parties (raves) anyway. A Nexus Setup is on the rider of EVERY professional Dance Music DJ.....and they don't all make seven figures. I am friends with lots of promoters (big & small) and they all own (or rent) Nexus setups for their events. Everyone wants the convenience of showing up w' a Flashdrive and a pair of Headphones!!

You are totally out of the loop.....lol

Industry-standard aka club standard still exists and they are.......
pioneer cdj1000, 900, 2000, technic 1200, 1210s.....pioneer djm800, 900, 2000, rane 57, 62
plus a few more minor entries....

Exactly, Majority wise you can even narrow this list down to the pioneer stuff only.
And then you have a controller that makes you work at home like you would work on a pro system, and even offers enough flexibility for the mobile DJ with just a USB stick in your pocket instead of a controller with additional laptop.

This evolution might change the (DJ gear) game on every level. From intro level till professional level and vice versa.

Wondering what NAMM will reveal more...

Looks like Denon is still going to be a major player in the Serato arena.

Numark answers with their new beastly NS3, a 3-screen controller for Serato DJ?

yep just saw it

Link please....

www.gearslutz.com

Fugly. This is no innovation from Numark. Slapping 3 screens on to the NS7II to catch up is not innovation. I'll pass....

Numark just don't learn do they. They try hard but always come up short. They should take more time

They rushed out the ns72 yet didn't include DVS despite all the calling for it in response the the sx.

Numark uses Samsung's tactic. EPIC FAILED!

Any one has a link for nurmark

Konix posted in 5 posts up

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Seems like Denon are well and truly back in the game :)

If that's thejr only product it's a big disappointment

I agree was really hoping for a new "media" player...my sc3900's are looking a lil old :(. the new controller (mc4000) looks like the new numark mixtrack, so I'm starting to feel a lil disappointed.

www.numark.com

It is NS7III not NS3 BTW. Just to clarify.

And it is literally an NS7II with the triple screen setup Numark offered years ago. Price set at the SAME PRICE the NS7II was set at. SAME shit PLUS three screens and not a penny more? HMMMM!

Yeah, that NS7 with screens is ultra lame!!!

Someone posted this very image as "NS7 Concept" awhile a go. Can't seem to find the link to the image. But yeah, this is lame, nothing attractive and innovative about it at all. Reminds me of the FX controller unit patch onto the original NS7 to make it NSFX. Still have it, but design was a bit shortsighted, IMHO.

I guess the rumor that I heard about a 909srt was all bullshit. What a shame.

Still though, the XDJ-RX gives me hope that a RZ is in store for next NAMM (maybe sooner).

I wouldn't actually call them a major player, but it's nice to see them bring out something, even if is a revamped 6000II.

You are certainly NOT crazy. I 100% remember it. While it WAS only a mockup.................... I mean may as well put him on the Numark Payroll as whoever made this beast is not all that imaginative.


All the exec's sitting at a table. "We need to make the NS7II more like the the NV, S8, & RX with the screens................................. I know add screens to the NS7II" DONE!!!??????

I like. I think it's badass. Just think they should have added the screens in the beginning.

Can NOT believe they allowed Denon to make an SL2 pretty much as well. Really weird TBH. denondj.com

if it was self contained, as in having an inbuilt hard drive, and operating system, then yes, it would be dope. But this....not at all!!

As I said in another post, that will come down to Serato making an embedded SDJ solution.

Wow. At least numark did something a bit different.

Wow. What have to the Rane exclusive agreement on the SL interfaces?

^happen^

You wonder who else might start making audio interfaces for DVS users.

Serato DJ.

Who the "F" knows? I mean WHO KNOWS if Rane even knew this was coming. I mean anyone see ANYthing different from SL2 to this besides size? It's not like the SL2 is a behemoth!! I mean anything? It looks like a slap in the face in a small black package to me!!

The price will be lesser no doubt. It's not like Denon makes crap so quality will be there as well. YUP slap in the face!

I see you looking at that SL2 BAM how about this!! I guess the SSL compatibility is still a plus for the SL2 but not for long I wouldn't think............

Whats us price of SL-2??? As the denon is $299
So if its cheaper whos guna buy and SL-2? And smaller is good! Saves space in the dj bag!
Its aimed at new users.

I wonder what the drivers and support will be like for the Denon DS1, that's the real deal breaker, surely?

Yeah it is more. $499 I believe LOL


Exactly!!! You just confirmed the slap in the face. It's NOT towards the customers. They will only love this. It is a slap in the face towards Rane as who will want to pay ALMOST double for the SL2 now?

Do you guys TRULY believe this? With the announcements by Pioneer, Rane, even Numark, then you have Denon with an updated MC6000 and an alternative to the SL2 and some speakers. Is this really a huge move?

Don't take my comment the wrong way. I was just as hopeful as anyone for Denon to come back strong BUT my assumption of Denon being hushed has just be reaffirmed. This is NOT groundbreaking, innovative or new................................. IMO

^^^^^what he said...a bit disappointed.

Yes big news!!! Read the link to news letter serato just put on!!! Club kit!!! Boom

and I'm gonna pull a gun out and shoot myself in the head...I just sold my DJM850 and SL1 to get My 900SRT and now they have a simple expansion pack for both the DJM850 and 900NXS...WTF. I lost my butt on that deal...wow. Knew I should've waited.

As a single unit the XDJ-RX is not really a Threat to Serato. BUT if pioneer continues to promote /push/improve rekordbox along with streamlining its equipment to work best with its own software then that is where the threat Lies.

just posted it here for ease of access

The Serato DJ Club Kit is the latest addition to Serato’s brand new collection of software kits and will be available alongside a forthcoming release of Serato DJ.
By purchasing the Serato DJ Club Kit you will now be able to use Serato DJ with supported mixers without the need for an external sound card interface.

It's also the most affordable way of getting both a Serato DJ and DVS Expansion Pack license. Available for USD $169, you can save USD $59 by purchasing the Club Kit.

Supported mixers are the Pioneer DJM850, 900NXS and the Allen & Heath DB2 & DB4. The Serato DJ Club Kit is perfect for these users who want a simple plug-and-play solution in the club.

my Goodness...whole lotta bed hoping going on here...lol

Hopping*

Spot on. That's exactly why I started this post... The rekordbox stand alone idea is getting closer and closer to the software solutions like SDJ and traktor


Well, If serato wants to get/keep a solid foot on the ground, they are obliged to make their selves compatible with every (future) unit of pioneer, in order to have an answer against this rekordbox threat.
Anyway, Sorry to hear you "ka-ching'ed" your money into pioneer its pockets twice...

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RIGHT there with ya!!

Just read all the announcements for serato at Namm.

It is getting really hard to choose the best DJ solution out there... Jezus!

Wondering if Denon still has something up it's sleave...it appears in the 2015 Catalog they just posted one specific piece of equipment is missing ....SC3900.

denondj.com

*sleeve

Seems it is discontinued?

hopefully because they are planning on replacing it..if that is not the case then I would be forced into pioneer gear which...I've already bent over once for a new mixer...not trying to do it again...will rock my 3900's until they fall apart I guess.

Sorry bud being they already made up the catalog this just pretty much means it has been discontinued and that is all. Why would they add more confusion to an already confusing time by having multiple versions of the 2015 catalog?

oh I understand...believe me...I mean I love the cdj2000nxs just the price..and I love a rotating platter...dont want to go back to vinyl so the 3900/3700/3500 was perfect for my needs..and to a point my ns7 (1). Times are a changing guess I gotta adapt.

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Ohhhhh boy. You thinking of hopping into one of these? Its bedy niiiice!!!

i like it but im far too spoiled by serato and a large laptop screen to buy it.

Agreed. Know what? A BUNCH of the comments you made today JUST made a bunch more sense this very minute LOL.

Both of those videos were proper. It's a lot bigger then I imagined.

Thanks for sharing the vids pdidy.
I have to admit i like this unit very much.
Not sure i would like to give up the laptop either, but it surely forces you to narrow your library down to what you realy use.

I have a standard library of more then 22k songs. On 9 hours play you only need about 200 of them.
A lot of times i come back from a gig thinking, why didn't I play this and that song?
Simply, because I drowned in my extensive library and forgot about it.
This system will force you to select only the best. And in this case less is more I guess.

This unit fills up a serious gap between the low end and the high end products of pioneer if you ask me.
The only thing I would like to know is the quality of the pitch lock.

While I agree with what is being said I feel like one huge aspect is being VERY much overlooked.

My Rekordbox library is the same exact size as my Serato library. As a matter of fact my library is identical (cue points, loops, beat grids and all) from Serato, Traktor AND Rekordbox.

While you have the option to take only what you need on a USB stick (or SD card with the CDJ's) you also have the option to load wirelessly from your iOS device or (what i do) use the laptop in almost the same exact manner as you do with Serato & Traktor. Furthermore Rekordbox 3.0 made the GUI MUCH more similar to SDJ & TP2 in that it now supports dual deck views as SDJ & TP2 do. images.search.yahoo.com

Just look at this screen shot. You plug in via LAN instead of USB and some features are availible wirelessly when you incorporate a wireless router BUT so many things are the same and they are getting even more similar as time goes on. Keep in mind Rekordbox was made by the Mixvibes crew and I would NOTbe surprised if it got to be more like Cross DJ a time goes on.


Lastly while the XDJ-1000 & XDJ-RX are sick units (they truly are) there is not much more being offered by either that wasn't before. The CDJ's do what the XDJ does minus the touch screen capabilities and the XDJ-Aero AND XDJ-R1 do what the XDJ-RX does. The XDJ-R1 even offers a Remote (Remotebox) feature as well as dual CD's. Aside from screen & new slicer feature the same has been offered for a pretty long time.

These element are the reason I find myself wondering what all the hype is. Is there something more that I am missing. To me it seems as if this has been available for years, no?

These are literally in the same category because they are all "self contained" and Rekordbox (hence the XDJ) driven controllers or "DJ systems" as Pio says. They never caught on before and even with the pretty screen I doubt the XDJ-RX will cause much damage.


For some reason I truly feel we will be seeing what we did with the releases of both the R1 & aero................ a frenzy of posts asking if and when the XDJ-RX will be supported by Serato. Once people realize it does not support Serato it will die down.................... just my guess.


ALL that being said I will NOT try to say that this thing is not a beauty.


Just my opinions on this.

I do agree with this comment though. It was so defined as to what is Pro and what is beginner with Pioneer gear. Even with this being branded a Bedroom DJ controller this has the looks & features (Don't know about feel yet) of a higher level controller.

Hey Dave,
Appreciate your comments.

Agree there isn't much added towards previous models, but there is is subtle difference with the previous units. for instance, The visual feedback of this unit is laptop replacement ready.

I'm not sure people will consider this unit as a bedroom DJ controller for a very long time.
I like it that this unit is condensed to a minimum but yet complete controller, that contain every single specification you'll really need in the professional environment.
Subtle details like a built in tranfo instead of a loose transfo acknowldge this feeling.

As a being a professional mobile DJ, it's the first time that a stand alone controller unit draws my attention. Almost a perfect compromise between portability / stability / professional versatility and price range.

This means something for me because the feeling I have about it right now is exactly the same as I had with the DDJ-SX2 and the V7. And these 2 I mention here gave me more (professional) satisfaction then I ever expected from it. They just made it able for me to become a better DJ and still grow in these skills.

Back to this XDJ-RX. it feels like Pioneer nailed it in their particular area of concept. In other words, It just feels "right". I hope you understand what I mean.

If other people also feels this way, you might be wondering why you'll need a laptop dito music program for your performance. And that's a threat for companies like Serato.
(Don't get me wrong , I'm still the biggest Serato fan around here, by far... :-D)

Whats there to worry about? I never worry about my laptop. It works just fine. Like you wouldn't worry about the XDJ-RX screwing up? Its not going to ever? Seriously.
The Pioneer Kool-Aid is being consumed by the gallons.

While the actual prepping music within the Rekordbox software has had its issues once you get the music onto the player I have never heard of a crash. The thing is so stable that even if you load via wirelessly from your iPhone and let's say you shut the thing off after the song is loaded it will STILL play the song in its entirety no problem. That being said I MUCH prefer Serato and RB is becoming more like Serato with each update.

Normally I don't either.
I only worry when some drunk lads/chicks start waving with their drink over my gear, or start doing excited... Lost almost my brand new mac when A drunk chick pulled the usb cable by accident when waving around with her arms...

With this pioneer unit it is 1 thing less to worry about.

Rekordbox is very easy to use. Holds a large library on a hard drive without crashing. No USB drop outs. Its all done by wireless or wired LAN.

Rekordbox is not intuitive. I tried it out and I am lost at the part where I am able to import my iTunes library into the Collection. :( I love love love the smoothness of the waveforms though!!

My current set up:

1210M5G + VCI 380 + 1210M5G
+
NS7FX

My upgraded set up:

1210M5G + TTM57SLMK2 + 1210M5G (for special events & home use)
+
Pioneer XDR-RX (for mobile)

The waveforms should be just as smooth as they are for Serato.


BTW you use the bridge feature to import music.

I wonder if this unit is going to be supported by serato DJ in a later stage...

Serato has stated already they have no plans to do so but then again they also HAD no lans to support the 900Nexus.................... Who the F knows anymore as the line was already crossed yesterday.

RKB all the way

I'm getting one of these and getting rid of Serato. I haven't seen anything good out of Serato. The sound effects are dodgy and no matter what always run into a glitch. I've used 2 different controls, DDJ-SR and Numark NV, and just lots of issues.

Other issues with Serato is the lack of ability to customize the displays. They really need to beef that up. I like to use the extended waveform, but when going to 4 decks you lose the peaks meter that is usually under it. There is also no ability to move stuff around like there should be. Maybe putting the waveforms at the bottom.

The Serato beatgrids are rarely ever on from the start, so essentially each song needs to be corrected. Just a huge time consumption of something that rekordbox does much better.

I left Serato when DJ was released very short after. Couldn't wait for the large library issue to be fixed. Glad i left because i am very happy with RKB.

Greg B, I'm with you. In fact, I have a Pioneer XDJ-RX on pre-order and can't wait to mess with it. If you look at the equipment in a typical DJ setup, what is the one piece of equipment that's likely to cause problems? The laptop... A lot of times, guys have freeze-ups and other issues and have to run through a list of ways to fix it (use different USB port, turn off bluetooth and wi-fi, re-install software etc etc) I'm not bashing laptops. I've been a laptop DJ for years, but this all-in-one unit appears to have everything I need without having to plug in a laptop at all. To me, this is perfect and "hats off" to Pioneer. I'm not a Pio fanboy. In fact, I was using a lot of Denon gear for awhile. I just feel this unit will be amazing. I've already messed with Rekordbox extensively and love it. There are certainly pros & cons to laptops and I'm sure problems could occur with this Pio unit, but it's focused on ONE task... playing music... where a laptop has more of a chance of being a problem. Time will tell.

I see that too and it being with Numark.

These all-in-ones (AIOs) always hit the press with a lot of hype. I'm still not convinced.

There's a reason why the laptop/controller/hardware model has been so successful for the past decade = flexibility and modularity.

Here are a few of my observations .

- people with really big libraries are going to be plugging in portable hard drives. This might actually be cool when large capacity (>512GB) Solid State Drives become more affordable.

- Browsing tracks without a laptop? Works for some jocks who'll spin <100 tracks in night (EDM guys for example) Others with mega libraries, with multiple genres, subgenres and playlists who are used to spontaneously getting in and out of songs within in seconds vs minutes? This is not the right tool for that job.

- No AIO will ever, ever, ever be installed in any real club environment. Most venues have 1200s or Pioneer CDJ decks with a medium/high end mixer typically from Pioneer, Allen & Heath or Rane with, and here's the key, BACKUPS for each component.

There is a reason why Some variation of this arrangement is on the rider for most major DJ talent and why industries have standards. Its not just to protect the manufacturers of existing tech. It's to allow everyone to work together - venue owners, opening djs, headliners, soundmen - with a minimum of logistics obstacles getting in the way. Ask anyone who has done a music festival, large dj battle, or gig with more than two DJs - I played a gig with ten jocks a couple of weeks ago!

It'll be interesting to see whether any of these show up in the wild in the coming months.

I agree. Again the XDJ-RX is nothing new. It is just another XDJ all in one controller (XDJ-Aero, XDJ-R1) with updated screens. In terms of actual capabilities there is not much gained. The XDJ-Aero connects to Rekordbox on your laptop and you handle the files in the same manner etc. Both handle USB drives without the need of a computer etc. The XDJ-R1 even has the dual CD option.

While the XDJ-RX boasts the familiar CDJ screen this amounts to ease of access and convenience more than capabilities gained................ I think at least.

To each their own and by all means I would never tell anyone what they should use I wouldn't be surprised to see a small wave of individuals purchasing this unit and wondering why they can not use Serato or Traktor natively............ which surprises me because Rekordbox is pretty badass IMO. Serato still has the edge for me and my gear but Rekordbox is by no means a toy.

I bought, tried and sold the XDJ-RX ... NOT for me after all. I'm back to Serato and the DDJ-SX2 ... the RX would have random freeze issues. I'd get an error saying the track couldn't be found... only way to remedy was to restart the unit. Then, the song that "couldn't be found" would be just fine and it would play the rest of the night. I had it happen during "You shook me all night long" so I had to restart after that, KILLING my dance floor, which of course was packed during that tune. Long story short, the error message appears to be common in a lot of the CDJ, XDJ units. I'm sorry, but I can't take the chance that it'll act up right before the Bride & Groom's first dance. I have had very good luck with Pioneer's midi controllers and with Serato, so I'm going to go back to that combo for awhile.

Ok that is nice feed back.
The system is still having some child diseases I guess.
But like all software developments, it will get better every upgrade.

This statement reminds me of a physicist that said man would never never fly or travel by air lol

it will happen later this century...DENON MCX8000 is going that route but if pioneer can bring out the same product with DJM+CDJ quality + 2 screens....i don't see why it wouldn't happen quickly since they are considered the standard already.

Pioneer just released Rekordbox DJ. Pretty sure this is sign enough that they are NOT leaning in the AIO direction. As a matter of fact Pioneer just took HUGE leaps to become more like Serato & Traktor not the other way around. Just remember this century is still in its infancy and includes anything up to 85 years from now LOL.

I had the XDJ-RX and had problems with it. I kept getting an error code, saying it couldn't find a song... re-boot and it would find it. Sold that... Now, I own a DDJ-RX now and I was trying Rekordbox DJ with it and tonight, the play button stopped working on deck 1. I had to restart the software. I used Serato DJ all last year at over 25 gigs with a DDJ-SX2 and I never once had any issues... seriously thinking about going back to Serato.

Why Fix what's not broken...the SX1 has never let me down too...sometimes we're to blame for our choices

I suffer from "Latest & Greatest syndrome" and I always like to check out new gear, software, etc... I will say Pioneer is an amazing hardware company, but maybe software isn't something they should focus on. Like I said, I ran into issues with both the standalone unit and with RB DJ. You're right, why try to fix what's not broken? Serato kicks ass!